rate my strokes please

based on 2-3 (first video only) shots..3.5..but you seem to hit with a lot of spin, maybe if you hit through the ball more, and get 1-3 feet net clearence instead for 5+ you could be higher, but then again watching you hit 2 forehands and one serve isn't really enough to rate.


On your second video, you seemed to have good form, but you can work on hitting better slices.

i liked the first video when you yelled something...after the winner. :)
 
for now i'll say 3.0. some strokes like forehand and backhand look solid -- at times. you take the ball off the rise and low balls kinda strange. i think you alter your swing. and your serve looks like it could use some refining technically. but yeah take it for what its worth from a 3.0
 
3.5. To the person that said we needed to see him hitting faster ground strokes, I'd like to see some of your videos. Those groundstrokes in the 2nd video seemed fast enough to me. Didn't really see enough of your backhand in those videos to judge but your forehand looks good (at least in the first two, not sure what's up in the third pretty awful footwork).
 
what I noticed most is that you simply stood still until the ball was in your court. Keep on your toes and split step. You'll be surprised how much your strokes will improve by simply having good footwork.
 
the forehand looks like a 3.5 stroke. Its not clear if your bhs are clearing the net.

Its really impossible to predict your level since levels are related to competitive results rather than form. For example, I could take a video of a player that everyone here would rate 3.0 or below but he's a 4.0 due to his speed, consistency and court intelligence.

Additionally, you've asked us to rate your nrtp level without seeing serves, volleys or overheads.
 
3.0-low 3.5

You have a massive backswing, I would fix that pronto. Like seriously, that is just a HUGE backswing. If someone was to hit faster, flat shots at you would fall apart. Cut that backswing in half and I'm sure you'll see some improvments in timing and consistency

Also, make sure to move. You seem really slow on the court and your movement is just sluggish. Work on that and your consistency will go up for sure, as you'll have more time to set up for your shots.

I'll the serve to someone else

But overall your ground strokes technially look alright, but once you play better players who hit harder/flatter, that backswing just wont cut it unless you've got phenomanal timing. I would work on the backswing first and then the footwork
 
Ballinbob said:
3.0-low 3.5

You have a massive backswing, I would fix that pronto. Like seriously, that is just a HUGE backswing. If someone was to hit faster, flat shots at you would fall apart. Cut that backswing in half and I'm sure you'll see some improvments in timing and consistency

Also, make sure to move. You seem really slow on the court and your movement is just sluggish. Work on that and your consistency will go up for sure, as you'll have more time to set up for your shots.

I'll the serve to someone else

But overall your ground strokes technially look alright, but once you play better players who hit harder/flatter, that backswing just wont cut it unless you've got phenomanal timing. I would work on the backswing first and then the footwork
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i've seen i think you, or maybe someone else tell people to cut there backswing down. and countless times i've seen people post videos of pros with big backswings. thats not the problem. unless he is always late, then you need to think about working on it. but if its working down worry about it.
 
As stated, 3-3.5 strokes.
Too long backswing, thos early now, will be late when you play harder hitters.
Waaaaay too deliberate a swing, not at all working when you play harder hitters, and too many tension induced errors. You don't swing, you push your arm thru.
Waaay too deliberate movments. You gotta just play more, get the feet to move naturally, not like textbook dance steps.
Bad serve, like a 2.0's in technique, just a push. SWING IT.
You are in shape, you can play good tennis, but you need technique help. Watch the pros.
 
LeeD said:
As stated, 3-3.5 strokes.
Too long backswing, thos early now, will be late when you play harder hitters.
Waaaaay too deliberate a swing, not at all working when you play harder hitters, and too many tension induced errors. You don't swing, you push your arm thru.
Waaay too deliberate movments. You gotta just play more, get the feet to move naturally, not like textbook dance steps.
Bad serve, like a 2.0's in technique, just a push. SWING IT.
You are in shape, you can play good tennis, but you need technique help. Watch the pros.
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wow lol, this is the first time everyone agrees with ur rating
 
Russian, Chinese and North Korean raters give you a 3.0.

American, Japanese, Canadian, South Korean and Slovakian raters give you a 3.5. IMO, your movement could be better which could raise all scores a slight bit. :-?
 
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Good forehand follow through, but your takeback may hinder you in hitting faster balls; your wrist is a bit open.

Backhand takeback seems constricted and shortened. May not get enough power on that side.

Need to work on your footwork a bit. Step into the ball and stay balanced. Remember to split step.

Initial rating between a 3.0-3.5
 
I think he looks minimum of 3.5, but i wouldn't rule out a higher rating. I would say his technique is above average for 3.5 league play.
 
Possibly, but....
I quite often play against 3.5's who'd wipe him off the court with power, pace, depth, and angles.
Those guys hit real 115 + SPIN first serves, only lacking in penetrating approach's and volleys, and bad backhand overheads.
From the baseline, he'd be hard pressed to WIN even one point each game, thos with good movement and no misses, might take two points each game when the opposition gets sloppy and misses.
4.0's would have him running past the singles sidelines, giving him low angles short and wide, taking his slow high balls and just playing puppeteer with the puppet.
And that serve is just plain ole BAD.
 
LeeD said:
Possibly, but....
I quite often play against 3.5's who'd wipe him off the court with power, pace, depth, and angles.
Those guys hit real 115 + SPIN first serves, only lacking in penetrating approach's and volleys, and bad backhand overheads.
From the baseline, he'd be hard pressed to WIN even one point each game, thos with good movement and no misses, might take two points each game when the opposition gets sloppy and misses.
4.0's would have him running past the singles sidelines, giving him low angles short and wide, taking his slow high balls and just playing puppeteer with the puppet.
And that serve is just plain ole BAD.
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Lee, I keep reading your crap over and over and with every new post you prove your inability to understand the rating system...
In your area, it is possible that everyone's pro level, therefore, 3.5 has "heavy spin 115 mph serves", etc. In reality, 3.5 puts the serve in at maybe 80-ish mph, and second serve just clears the net, has some consistency, no weapon shots. BH are just the pushing over the net tool. Exactly like the guy in the video...

So, please stop posting **** here over and over -- first, it is not funny any more, second, your credibility is nowhere to be found.

You could get some of it back by posting your own video though...
 
LeeD said:
Possibly, but....
I quite often play against 3.5's who'd wipe him off the court with power, pace, depth, and angles.
Those guys hit real 115 + SPIN first serves, only lacking in penetrating approach's and volleys, and bad backhand overheads.
From the baseline, he'd be hard pressed to WIN even one point each game, thos with good movement and no misses, might take two points each game when the opposition gets sloppy and misses.
4.0's would have him running past the singles sidelines, giving him low angles short and wide, taking his slow high balls and just playing puppeteer with the puppet.
And that serve is just plain ole BAD.
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when the hell were 3.5's supposed to have 115 mph serves...
 
LeeD said:
Possibly, but....
I quite often play against 3.5's who'd wipe him off the court with power, pace, depth, and angles.
Those guys hit real 115 + SPIN first serves, only lacking in penetrating approach's and volleys, and bad backhand overheads.
From the baseline, he'd be hard pressed to WIN even one point each game, thos with good movement and no misses, might take two points each game when the opposition gets sloppy and misses.
4.0's would have him running past the singles sidelines, giving him low angles short and wide, taking his slow high balls and just playing puppeteer with the puppet.
And that serve is just plain ole BAD.
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So according to you, if 3.5s hit 115 mph, and are running their opponents side to side, then:
4.0s must hit serves around 120-125
4.5s must hit serves around 125-130 and are hitting winners left and right to the corners
and 5.0s are serving 130+ all the time and beating professional players consistently.

Give me a break!!! I don't know if you're joking or if you're serious, but if you're serious I really don't know what you're basing all your 'facts' off of.
 
This is why juniors really aren't and shouldn't be rated on the NTRP scale. Your fundamentals on the forehand are pretty good, the backhand less so. The serve's fundamentals aren't so good, but it didn't look all that weak. I'll bet that your volleys aren't so good (generically true of juniors these days). Even though some of your strokes are better than many 3.0 men, you would probably get crushed by the hackers and spinners because you haven't developed the movement, court sense, and experience needed to compete.
 
From the second video, the OP's groundstrokes didn't look too bad...Serve definitely needs some work, but the groundies looked pretty solid.
 
To all the naysayers....
You can strive to be the worse you can be, and still play at a certain level...in this case, 3.5.
Or, you can strive to be better, get better rating, improve your tennis, and hit most of the tennis shots, and still be 3.5.
You can enter your 3.5 tournaments and go 2 rounds, reinforcing the fact you are really a 3.5 player.... you beat ONE guy.
OR, you can play your first 3.5 tournament, go 5 rounds, and really know you belong in a better rating group, but until you actually start WINNING some touraments, you are still 3.5.
Now which are you striving for? The player who barely belongs in 3.5? Or the player who is still 3.5, but striving and working towards 5.0?
It's up to you, of course....:):):)
 
You just started playing yesterday, right? My 5 year old brother could beat you, and he doesn't even play tennis

</end LeeD mode>
 
Honestly, I'd say 3.0 from what little I've seen in the video.

Good luck and have fun in your tennis career regardless what level you play.
 
it appears as tho everyone else disagrees with u but hey i could be wrong... i might really do suck and ure lil brother really could beat me
 
I think the 3.0 to 3.5 people are about right, but want to say I actually like the simplicity of your forehand. It's quite efficient and if you don't embellish the mechanics as you play more, it's a shot that can become better very quickly.
 
I have a question for the OP:

Are you asking us to rate your strokes because you want to join a league? A local pro will be glad to hit with you for a bit and tell you what level you should be playing.
 
LeeD said:
Possibly, but....
I quite often play against 3.5's who'd wipe him off the court with power, pace, depth, and angles.
Those guys hit real 115 + SPIN first serves, only lacking in penetrating approach's and volleys, and bad backhand overheads.
From the baseline, he'd be hard pressed to WIN even one point each game, thos with good movement and no misses, might take two points each game when the opposition gets sloppy and misses.
4.0's would have him running past the singles sidelines, giving him low angles short and wide, taking his slow high balls and just playing puppeteer with the puppet.
And that serve is just plain ole BAD.
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Comeon man be realistic. We all know even 3.0s serve at least 120mph kick serves. All they lack is depth and touch in their volleys.

What area are you referring to anyway, where you have such an incapable lot of 3.5s playing? They better rate themselves down to 3.0
 
simp said:
I have a question for the OP:

Are you asking us to rate your strokes because you want to join a league? A local pro will be glad to hit with you for a bit and tell you what level you should be playing.
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no i play for my high school team and im just curious lol
 
3.0.
Can't see if your shots are going in or not. The one angle you posted where the camera is behind you is too short.
 
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