Rate these players (video included)

snoopy

Professional
I agree with all that say 3.5

They're able to do too many things to be below that.

Footwork and backhands are too bad to be 4.0s
 

goober

Legend
1. Chris Henry Arizona 4.40
2. Adrian Peterson Oklahoma 4.40
3. Antonio Pittman Ohio St. 4.40
4. Kenny Irons Auburn 4.45
5. Lorenzo Booker Florida St 4.46
6. Marshawn Lynch Cal 4.46
7. DeShawn Wynn Florida 4.48
8. Alonzo Coleman Hampton 4.49
9. Ramonce Taylor Texas 4.50
10. Kolby Smith Louisville 4.51


Only two I've seen play are Peterson and Taylor. But honestly I agree, any of those guys probably gives grey guy a pretty good match.
If Peterson and taylor haven't played tennis before, they would get bageled easily by the grey guy or any guy in the 3.0/3.5 range, I don't care how athletic they happen to be.
 

nyc

Hall of Fame
in the video they're 3.5

But this thread has been going on for soooo long now, that they must be at 4.0 by now :D
 

kck123

New User
I think the camera angle is a little deceiving. It's positioned like they are playing the US Open or something...this really puts the pro's in perspective. I think these guys are probably better than what we give them credit for.

Grey and white shirt guys....post someting with a different camera angle. No editing....let's get the real skinny on this.

Why is "ksqwqb" trying to rate these players anyway? Isn't he the one who posted the video? For all we know, he is probably the guy in the gray shirt and trying to make himself look good. Sounds like a real ego issue to me.
 

purespin

Semi-Pro
Video yourself- I'll bet you that you will be surprised by how slow you look, how bad your strokes are compared to what you think they look like. I did it once and I was pretty shocked. I am sure if posted it most people would rate me pretty low. But if they saw my tournament record they would be pretty surprised.
I totally agree with goober. I went to watch a local 5.0 match and they're much faster than nadal/federer on TV :D
 

onehandbh

Legend
1. Chris Henry Arizona 4.40
2. Adrian Peterson Oklahoma 4.40
3. Antonio Pittman Ohio St. 4.40
4. Kenny Irons Auburn 4.45
5. Lorenzo Booker Florida St 4.46
6. Marshawn Lynch Cal 4.46
7. DeShawn Wynn Florida 4.48
8. Alonzo Coleman Hampton 4.49
9. Ramonce Taylor Texas 4.50
10. Kolby Smith Louisville 4.51


Only two I've seen play are Peterson and Taylor. But honestly I agree, any of those guys probably gives grey guy a pretty good match.
These guys don't play tennis (AFIK). They are the top collegiate
running back prospects from this year's NFL draft. Do you honestly think
that the grey guy runs a 4.4 40? This would mean he is as fast as the
fastest college running backs.

If he's got 4.4 speed he would make Nadal look like he's running on
quicksand.
 

beernutz

Hall of Fame
Those both appear to be 3.5s though the one closest to the camera at the beginning looks a bit stronger. Anyone saying below 3.0 is on crack. Maybe in Florida or Southern Callie they are 3.0s but most everywhere else I believe they could play 3.5.

What I think is funny in these threads is to have people who don't even play USTA league weigh in with their opinion.
 

beernutz

Hall of Fame
I'd say they are weak both 3.0's at best who need to work on their consistency.

That being said, I must give my usual caveat and say that I have not watched the video or even read the other posts in this thread.
LOL

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kck123

New User
Why is "ksqwqb" trying to rate these players anyway? Isn't he the one who posted the video? For all we know, he is probably the guy in the gray shirt and trying to make himself look good. Sounds like a real ego issue to me.
IS ANYONE ELSE NOTICING THAT "KSQWQB" IS PROBABLY THE FREAKING GUY IN GRAY???!?!?!??! I swear. :confused:
 

ksqwqb

New User
These guys don't play tennis (AFIK). They are the top collegiate
running back prospects from this year's NFL draft. Do you honestly think
that the grey guy runs a 4.4 40? This would mean he is as fast as the
fastest college running backs.

If he's got 4.4 speed he would make Nadal look like he's running on
quicksand.
You're probably right. I guess he's not that fast. But he does look pretty quick sometimes. Any chance of maybe analyzing like you do a serve video where you go frame by frame and measure the distance he covers then calculate his 40 time from that?
 

goober

Legend
You're probably right. I guess he's not that fast. But he does look pretty quick sometimes. Any chance of maybe analyzing like you do a serve video where you go frame by frame and measure the distance he covers then calculate his 40 time from that?
He really doesn't that quick to me. He's quicker than the other guy I will say that. Lateral quickeness does not translate to 40 times. I honestly would be very surprised based on his build and the way he moves if he could break 5 seconds in the 40.
 

35ft6

Legend
I think the camera angle is a little deceiving. It's positioned like they are playing the US Open or something...this really puts the pro's in perspective. I think these guys are probably better than what we give them credit for.
I think many of us have taken that into consideration. It's not just the ball speed, it's everything. Their footwork, mechanics, shot placement, that one handed backhand at 28 sec, the way gray shirt guy serves (opens up too soon), his backhand at 1:27, etc. 3.5, maybe weak 4.0.

Compare the video of the 3.5 guys above with these college players, who are probably strong 5.5's to 6.0:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgIsQ-flSEI&mode=related&search=
 
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35ft6

Legend
What are you getting so worked up about? Also, try not to post in all caps, it kind of stresses me out.
You should work off the stress by putting on your favorite grey t-shirt and playing some tennis. I kid I kid!!! :eek:
 

GuyClinch

Legend
3.5 - not a 4.0 yet IMHO. 3.5 are guys who can play tennis - those guys can play. I mean they don't have real weapons yet but they can hit all the shots reasonably well and have an idea of what they are doing..

4.0 guys IMHO usually start to have one or two superior shots - usually a powerful forehand or a strong serve to go with those kind of skills.

I am a 3.0 but am certain I look alot worse on video. However the guys I play with say I am like 3.5 - they however are optomistic because I have played in a league and I know what a 3.0 is like.

Guys are are 2.5 look like they can't even play tennis in video. People are ridiculous in their ratings around here.

Pete
 

35ft6

Legend
Good advice! By the way, thanks for the tip on the serve, I never noticed that before!
If you're one of the guys in the video, just keep playing. You've got the truly difficult stuff out of the way. In theory, you should just continue to improve. And it gets more fun as you get better. I'm just starting to get my timing back and it's like I'm rediscovering how fun tennis can be.
 

goober

Legend
If you are gray guy in the vid I wouldn't probably be posting this :D

Are you friggin' crazy?!?! That grey guy would kill the white guy! Grey guy looks about 22-23, probably benches about 325, runs a 4.4 40. White guy looks to be in his early 40's, slow as molasses, probly just took up tennis a week or two ago. I dunno know, just my opinion . . .
 

ksqwqb

New User
If you are gray guy in the vid I wouldn't probably be posting this :D
OK, I'll level with you. I'm mid-thirties, generally untalented, trying one last desperate stab at some form of athletic glory. So c'mon, I gotta build myself up somehow!;)

Now we just gotta figure out which one of you all is the guy in white . . .
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
i'd say these guys are competitive 3.0s, i would have no issues with them playing up to 4.0 in league(s). I would rate them as STRONG 3.5s, but if they are trying to get far in a league, they'd probably be sand bagging a little as 3.0s. These guys can ball, they aren't missing easy sitters, and place them well. They aren't hitting insane winners, but that's not the point.
 

Noveson

Hall of Fame
These guys don't play tennis (AFIK). They are the top collegiate
running back prospects from this year's NFL draft. Do you honestly think
that the grey guy runs a 4.4 40? This would mean he is as fast as the
fastest college running backs.

If he's got 4.4 speed he would make Nadal look like he's running on
quicksand.
Try turning your sarcasm meter on:rolleyes:
 

kck123

New User
Good advice! By the way, thanks for the tip on the serve, I never noticed that before!
I totally KNEW it! I should have been a detective. You are a fake. What is this about you saying....

"Are you friggin' crazy?!?! That grey guy would kill the white guy! Grey guy looks about 22-23, probably benches about 325, runs a 4.4 40. White guy looks to be in his early 40's, slow as molasses, probly just took up tennis a week or two ago. I dunno know, just my opinion . . ."

I think you are a megalomaniac. Regardless, I don't care because ZAPVOR thinks I'm great.

ME...."IS ANYONE ELSE NOTICING THAT "KSQWQB" IS PROBABLY THE FREAKING GUY IN GRAY???!?!?!??! I swear. "

ZAPVOR...."lol ....i love this thread"

I think she likes me. But, for some reason, she thinks she is better than me and that she is 'bout to hop on some court and make a million dollars or something. I'm confused by this.

I just wish I was that guy in white so I could smoke the grey guy....I mean, ksqwqb. What kind of guy actually posts his video, asks for feedback, and then makes posts and pretends he is someone else? I am 100% positive that the guy in white is definitely better than him now. No doubt. Why else would he post like this?

;)
 

Moses Man

Rookie
Gotta agree with ksqwqb on this one...

And I would say these guys are around 3.5--may not look pretty, but they get the job done.
 

zapvor

G.O.A.T.
I totally KNEW it! I should have been a detective. You are a fake. What is this about you saying....

"Are you friggin' crazy?!?! That grey guy would kill the white guy! Grey guy looks about 22-23, probably benches about 325, runs a 4.4 40. White guy looks to be in his early 40's, slow as molasses, probly just took up tennis a week or two ago. I dunno know, just my opinion . . ."

I think you are a megalomaniac. Regardless, I don't care because ZAPVOR thinks I'm great.

ME...."IS ANYONE ELSE NOTICING THAT "KSQWQB" IS PROBABLY THE FREAKING GUY IN GRAY???!?!?!??! I swear. "

ZAPVOR...."lol ....i love this thread"

I think she likes me. But, for some reason, she thinks she is better than me and that she is 'bout to hop on some court and make a million dollars or something. I'm confused by this.

I just wish I was that guy in white so I could smoke the grey guy....I mean, ksqwqb. What kind of guy actually posts his video, asks for feedback, and then makes posts and pretends he is someone else? I am 100% positive that the guy in white is definitely better than him now. No doubt. Why else would he post like this?

;)
hahahahahahaha. i love this thread.
 

mucat

Hall of Fame
Have you guys notice the grey guy does not have a BH (compare to his FH)? While the white guy has a better BH but a worse FH. I will be a interesting match if it is not a practice match.
 

GuyClinch

Legend
I dunno about interesting - one thing I notice is that these guys don't approach the net as much as I would. Actually I probably approach too often but I was taught anything that lands in the service box you should try to approach on..

Pete
 

ksqwqb

New User
I totally KNEW it! I should have been a detective. You are a fake. What is this about you saying....

"Are you friggin' crazy?!?! That grey guy would kill the white guy! Grey guy looks about 22-23, probably benches about 325, runs a 4.4 40. White guy looks to be in his early 40's, slow as molasses, probly just took up tennis a week or two ago. I dunno know, just my opinion . . ."

I think you are a megalomaniac. Regardless, I don't care because ZAPVOR thinks I'm great.

ME...."IS ANYONE ELSE NOTICING THAT "KSQWQB" IS PROBABLY THE FREAKING GUY IN GRAY???!?!?!??! I swear. "

ZAPVOR...."lol ....i love this thread"

I think she likes me. But, for some reason, she thinks she is better than me and that she is 'bout to hop on some court and make a million dollars or something. I'm confused by this.

I just wish I was that guy in white so I could smoke the grey guy....I mean, ksqwqb. What kind of guy actually posts his video, asks for feedback, and then makes posts and pretends he is someone else? I am 100% positive that the guy in white is definitely better than him now. No doubt. Why else would he post like this?

;)
As the principal in Billy Madison once proclaimed: "what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." ;)

By the way who's the white shirt guy?
 

kck123

New User
As the principal in Billy Madison once proclaimed: "what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." ;)

By the way who's the white shirt guy?
And what was Billy Madison's response? "Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine." You're not the only one with google on your computer.

ZAPFOR...Oh....ZAPFOR....where fore out there oh ZAPFOR?
 

ZhangM58

Rookie
They are probably around 3.0 - 3.5. These players seem to still have the "coach taught form" meaning they haven't really developed their own style of play. Then again, that's just from what I saw.
 

kck123

New User
Hey who are you? You sound familiar. Is that you in there? Do I know you?
You wish, hacker. I think your MOM knows me though. She told me I have "game," and that she likes it when I give her a really big backhand volley as I rush the net. She especially likes it when I pound my big, fast and bouncy serve at her.

Yeah baby.
 

ksqwqb

New User
You wish, hacker. I think your MOM knows me though. She told me I have "game," and that she likes it when I give her a really big backhand volley as I rush the net. She especially likes it when I pound my big, fast and bouncy serve at her.

Yeah baby.
I knew it! I knew it! You're the white shirt guy! I'd know your voice anywhere!

Hey man, how's it going?
 

kck123

New User
I knew it! I knew it! You're the white shirt guy! I'd know your voice anywhere!

Hey man, how's it going?
Son? Is that you? How many times have I told you NOT to play with the computer? That's it. I'm going to have to lock you up under the stairs again. This time though...absolutely no close up pictures of Federer, or Roddick for that matter. You're grounded.
 
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Deleted member 6835

Guest
I agree, but it's probably only 4.5 in alaska. Or canada.
get lost. the 8 year olds here could beat those 2 guys :D does that mean they can beat half the players in your country? yes it does


lol im just kidding around, but respect us people in iceland, we can play tennis better than you ignorant americans think... lol
 

forzainter

Semi-Pro
get lost. the 8 year olds here could beat those 2 guys :D does that mean they can beat half the players in your country? yes it does


lol im just kidding around, but respect us people in iceland, we can play tennis better than you ignorant americans think... lol
that could get people confused into thinking you actually live in iceland, and zapvor is a guy, look at his mid atlantic chapter thing in odds and ends
 

zapvor

G.O.A.T.
that could get people confused into thinking you actually live in iceland, and zapvor is a guy, look at his mid atlantic chapter thing in odds and ends
aw why you going to have to go and do that. i was hoping for more laughs from this thread
 
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