Rate this player! (You know you want to!)

[Zachol82]

That's right, another one of these threads :]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGWLX3CoHCw&NR=1

I am just curious of what the TT community will rate this player. Watch the entire video.

He definitely has the stroke. Definitely has some powerful shots. However, his consistency, footwork and control is questionable.

I dropped him a whole NTRP rating just because of his arrogant, overconfident, "I'm trying to look cool on camera, I don't give a ****" attitude.

Let's see how you guys rate this one. My favorite part is at 2:20 onward and how she returned that "overhead."

 

[Orion]

I would say 3.0. He needs more consistency and better footwork to be a 3.5. I got the feeling many of the forehands he was hitting were going long. He can't hit a backhand.

 

[mikro112]

That's right, another one of these threads :]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGWLX3CoHCw&NR=1

I am just curious of what the TT community will rate this player. Watch the entire video.

He definitely has the stroke. Definitely has some powerful shots. However, his consistency, footwork and control is questionable.

I dropped him a whole NTRP rating just because of his arrogant, overconfident, "I'm trying to look cool on camera, I don't give a ****" attitude.

Let's see how you guys rate this one. My favorite part is at 2:20 onward and how she returned that "overhead."

Yeah, the uber cool tennis n00b video. lol :lol: There are plenty of those around.

I'd rate him 3.0 because he can barely keep the ball in play for more than 2 shots. Hit technique looks not bad, but a nice technique doesn't help you if you can't keep the ball in the court.

Btw, I do believe there should be one thread for topics like this: "Rate the player!"

 

[Bud]

Based on this video...

Currently 2.5 to 3.0 (max) in a match situation. He can't keep a ball in the court to save his life. Every stroke is inconsistent in power, depth and direction.

He appears to have quite a bit of potential though... observing his movement and strokes. It's like he understands the importance of things like footwork and form... just doesn't know how to apply them, yet on court.

 

[Matchball]

No service game ?

Difficult to rate. Don't know...

He needs more consistency. I see no "feel" in his shots and the footwork is a little old school IMO. Good margin for improvement if he hasn't adopted any "stubborn" automations

 

[jmjmkim]

Tennis is not how hard you can smack the ball . . . It looks like that Tom Hanks movie "bachelor party" where Tom Hanks plays tennis with his girlfriend's father at a prestigious country club, and he smacks the balls over the fence like he's hittin a grand slam. It looks like less than 30% of the balls going in, a lot of balls hitting the net, no form, just a lot of smacking. Some ball trajectories look okay, but I'll bet he got no game. The guy can't sustain a rally more than a couple shots.

3.0

 

[tennis_balla]

Sorry don't care about his rating, I was too busy laughing at that coach yelling in the background and his instructions. If anyone is a noob, its him.

 

[fruitytennis1]

I have a feeling some of those (deep) fhs were going out so ill rate 3.0

 

[samster]

He is a 2.5 in my opinion. His coach is feeding balls to him that are in his strike zone. Even then, he struggles to put the ball in play in 33% of these shots.

 

[LeeD]

2.5 is beginner?
He's 2.9. Will lose to any 3.0 tourney player badly.

 

[grimmbomb21]

2.5 is beginner?
He's 2.9. Will lose to any 3.0 tourney player badly.

Exactly. I played my first 3.0 tourney years ago like this. Thought I was going to be the ****. I hit maybe five awesome winners and was off the court in 30 minutes with a double bagel loss. Any 3.0 with legs would only have to block back two balls per point. The guy can barely put feeds in play.

 

[blackfrido]

I would say 0.5

 

[decades]

I give him 6.0 for being a ball basher who can't find the court and a 2.0 for tennis IQ.

 

[ReopeningWed]

2.5 to 3.0.

 

[aznstyle]

im confused. how is he a 2.5? isnt that a total beginner? i dont remember being this good when i first picked up my racquet

 

[mtommer]

4.0 - 4.5 (maybe 5.0 if we could see the guy play seriously). The body control is too good when striking the ball. The guy is obviously not taking things all that seriously.

 

[thejackal]

3.0. the guy has decent swings and a potential to go up to 4.0 pretty quickly. footwork and consistency questionable. will lose to any player who can put balls back in the court.

 

[NLBwell]

Looks to me like he could be under 18 and therefore would have no NTRP rating. As a junior learning the game he shouldn't be concerned about ratings now. Yes, he would lose to an experienced 3.0 player quite badly, but he is learning the game, not competing. His forehand looks mechanically very good and will be a powerful weapon soon. His backhand still has some major flaws. Looks like he is pretty clueless moving near the net and may or may not have a serve at all. Putting a rating on him is meaningless.

 

[KiNG]

I don't know what his NTRP rating would be. But he is just BAD. He wasn't even trying to keep the ball in play, hes the kind of player I hate rallying with.

 

[Bud]

I don't know what his NTRP rating would be. But he is just BAD. He wasn't even trying to keep the ball in play, hes the kind of player I hate rallying with.

He has much potential though. You can definitely see his strokes look semi decent and he knows that footwork is important.

His issue is he is a beginner and hasn't learned how to hit a rally ball. He's going for way too much on every single shot.

 

[UnforcedError]

I would say a 4.0 . The takeback on his forehand is huge, he generates good racket head speed but there is a reason he has no idea where it is going. He moves okay and looks balanced through his shots. I don't remember the backhand as well. I think he would easily beat 3.5s with the power and lose badly to 4.5s since they would make him play more balls than he could hit in the court. If he shortened his takeback and got more balls in he might do okay at 4.5

Not sure why people think he is a beginner, there is nothing about his forehand or backhand that look like he just picked up a racket. It is possible he is rusty. I've never seen a 3.5 that has been playing for years with remotely as good strokes. I know computer rated 4.5s in So Cal that have uglier strokes.

 

[LeeD]

IF IF IF that guy can be rated 4.0, then everyone whom I beat double breadsticks are 6.0's, and players close to me are better than 7.0's.
Unfortunately, reality says that guy's movement is easy 2.6, his forehand maybe 3.2, his backhand back down around 2.7, and his overall game barely above 2.8. And his anticipation right around 2.5.5.
If course, I don't play with or against anyone who's played less than 3 years, 5 days a week, 3 hours a day. Not that I'm a snob. Anyone who's played anywhere less just can't get the ball back more than once.
Sorry, I self rate 4.0, and that guy is an easy right handed double breadstick for me, and I'm lefty.

 

[Bud]

I would say a 4.0 . The takeback on his forehand is huge, he generates good racket head speed but there is a reason he has no idea where it is going. He moves okay and looks balanced through his shots. I don't remember the backhand as well. I think he would easily beat 3.5s with the power and lose badly to 4.5s since they would make him play more balls than he could hit in the court. If he shortened his takeback and got more balls in he might do okay at 4.5

Not sure why people think he is a beginner, there is nothing about his forehand or backhand that look like he just picked up a racket. It is possible he is rusty. I've never seen a 3.5 that has been playing for years with remotely as good strokes. I know computer rated 4.5s in So Cal that have uglier strokes.

He can't rally or hit more than 1-2 shots inside the court. He's definitely a beginner.

 

[Jmu008]

Beautiful strokes, but his consistency...it's weird, I get the feeling that he has potential but he's ruining it with his ridiculous, unnecessary strokes. 3.0?

 

[prattle128]

4.0 - 4.5 (maybe 5.0 if we could see the guy play seriously). The body control is too good when striking the ball. The guy is obviously not taking things all that seriously.

You've got to be kidding me

 

[crystal_clear]

2.5~5.0 what a range!

 

[Cup8489]

You've got to be kidding me

i actually thought this as well. his forehand in particular has alot of pace, and his technique on that side, while containing some wasted energy, is sound, and if he can't find the court, he just needs to work on control.

i mean, seriously, what if this guy was just out for a hit? i'm a 3.5 and i can sometimes look like that when i just want to mess around, try stuff out. i can play my game when it needs to be played, sometimes i just go out to have fun and not care about how i hit or look

 

[UnforcedError]

IF IF IF that guy can be rated 4.0, then everyone whom I beat double breadsticks are 6.0's, and players close to me are better than 7.0's.
Unfortunately, reality says that guy's movement is easy 2.6, his forehand maybe 3.2, his backhand back down around 2.7, and his overall game barely above 2.8. And his anticipation right around 2.5.5.
If course, I don't play with or against anyone who's played less than 3 years, 5 days a week, 3 hours a day. Not that I'm a snob. Anyone who's played anywhere less just can't get the ball back more than once.
Sorry, I self rate 4.0, and that guy is an easy right handed double breadstick for me, and I'm lefty.

You saw video's of a professional volleying (Clint something) and said a typical 4.0 hits better volleys. You really don't know what you are talking about.

 

[UnforcedError]

He can't rally or hit more than 1-2 shots inside the court. He's definitely a beginner.

Sorry but beginners don't look anything like that. Maybe he was just trying to knock the cover off the ball every time but he is not a beginner. People are trying to save their own egos by saying he sucks.

 

[Zachol82]

2.5~5.0 what a range!

Seriously! I think someone actually rated him 2.0, so 2.0 - 5.0 range!

I didn't expect there would be a whole 3 levels difference in ratings when I made the post haha.

Also, do realize that you're rating off what you see, not his potential and what he could possibly become :|

 

[Bud]

Sorry but beginners don't look anything like that. Maybe he was just trying to knock the cover off the ball every time but he is not a beginner. People are trying to save their own egos by saying he sucks.

Go re-watch the video. He's an obvious beginner whose taken numerous lessons... you can see that in his strokes and footwork.

However, a tournament playing 3.0 would completely destroy him.

 

[shwetty[tennis]balls]

It's hard to tell because his partner is obviously bad. Based on this I'd say 3.5, but I would want to see him with a much better player on the opposite side.

 

[Bud]

It's hard to tell because his partner is obviously bad. Based on this I'd say 3.5, but I would want to see him with a much better player on the opposite side.

That's his instructor feeding him balls. He's appears to be taking a lesson.

The guy himself admits he's new to tennis "calling himself a noob" - that's patently obvious.

Right before the 2 minute mark... something the coach says finally sinks in and he starts taking some of the power off the ball (i.e. stops overhitting).

 

[kimbahpnam]

i'm not sure how anyone can give him a rating over 3.0 purely on groundstrokes and a couple volleys. what about serve? strategy? movement?

that guy is someone i'd definitely not want to rally with.

 

[Cnote]

I would say 2.5-3.0 based on the fact that he is not keeping the balls in play. I agree with some of the other comments that this player would appear to have a hard time with decent match play. His strokes are not too bad overall.

 

[tennis_balla]

He's not taking a lesson, he's hitting with a girl and the guy yelling in the background, the instructor is on another court.

Edit:
No wonder the NTRP ratings are all over the freaking map if you guys can't even figure that out

 

[Bud]

That's his instructor feeding him balls. He's appears to be taking a lesson.

The guy himself admits he's new to tennis "calling himself a noob" - that's patently obvious.

Right before the 2 minute mark... something the coach says finally sinks in and he starts taking some of the power off the ball (i.e. stops overhitting).

He's not taking a lesson, he's hitting with a girl and the guy yelling in the background, the instructor is on another court.

Edit:
No wonder the NTRP ratings are all over the freaking map if you guys can't even figure that out

No one stated the guy talking in the background is his coach :roll:

I was talking about the woman he's hitting with... note the many balls on court and the feeding basket on the opposite end.

 

[Cross-court]

they both suck.

 

[gokou703]

I can't believe that some people are actually saying that he's 4.0+. You can't win if you can't keep the ball in play. I have players that I coached that can hit just as hard, and have nice looking strokes but can't even get a .33 record at the high school level. This guy falls in the same exact category. Lackadaisical demeanor on the court to use as an excuse when he makes mistakes, but hits with and epic forehand to show that he is actually an "awesome player." Any consistent 4.0 would take care of this guy handedly...most 3.5's as well.

 

[tennis_balla]

No one stated the guy talking in the background is his coach :roll:

I was talking about the woman he's hitting with... note the many balls on court and the feeding basket on the opposite end.

They were read the thread again

 

[Bud]

They were read the thread again

Well, she does look kinda butch :neutral:

 

[fruitytennis1]

The guys had some lessons and has some good looking strokes...but hes still a 3.0 or less

 

[TearSNFX]

My youngest student ( 9 years old ) can beat this idiot.

He can't even get more then 3 hits in.

 

[tennis_balla]

My youngest student ( 9 years old ) can beat this idiot.

He can't even get more then 3 hits in.

Thats very professional of you as a coach to call another player an idiot. Stop trolling