Rate your favorite player's strokes.....

[MichaelNadal]

From 1 to 10. Rate the effectiveness of each stroke (NOT relative to other players) but if you were giving them stats on a tennis game for example. You can use peak or currently, but specify which.

I'll start with Nadal.... (currently)

First Serve: 7/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 7/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 7/10

 

[NatF]

From 1 to 10. Rate the effectiveness of each stroke (NOT relative to other players) but if you were giving them stats on a tennis game for example. You can use peak or currently, but specify which.

I'll start with Nadal.... (currently)

First Serve: 7/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 7/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 7/10

What would it take for you to give a 10 for forehand? Or is it just because Nadal hasn't had a good year that he gets a measly 9?

 

[MichaelNadal]

It was definitely a 10 in 2013. He's lost a little bit of pretty much everything in his game this year imo. I think he'll look to turn that around starting in Doha though.

 

[Wynter]

Peak Hewitt

First Serve: 7/10
Second Serve: 6/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 7/10
Backhand: 8.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 8/10

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Since Hewitt is barely relevant, I'll pick Murray (he's my favorite next to Hewitt).

First Serve: 7.5/10
Second Serve: 6/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 6/10
Forehand: 7/10
Backhand: 9/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8/10

 

[Edgecrusher]

Djoker (currently):

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 8.5/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 7.0/10
Forehand: 8/10
Backhand: 9.5/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 6/10

 

[NatF]

It was definitely a 10 in 2013. He's lost a little bit of pretty much everything in his game this year imo. I think he'll look to turn that around starting in Doha though.

I have a feeling you're right, not sure what I expect next year TBH.

My own rating, not relative to anyone else's.

Federer (current
First Serve: 9/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 8.5/10
Backhand: 7/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 9/10

Forehand was a 7.5-8 for most of the year but it started to look good again towards the end.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Since Hewitt is barely relevant, I'll pick Murray (he's my favorite next to Hewitt).

First Serve: 7.5/10
Second Serve: 6/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 6/10
Forehand: 7/10
Backhand: 9/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8/10

I'd give the Muzz an 8 for first serve.

 

[NatF]

I'd give the Muzz an 8 for first serve.

And a 5 for the second

 

[Djokovic2011]

Djoker (currently):

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 8.5/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 7.0/10
Forehand: 8/10
Backhand: 9.5/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 6/10

Not sure I'd rate Nole's backhand as highly as that mate. IMO he misses too much down the line these days for me to give him a 9.5 but maybe that's just me. The rest of your list seems pretty accurate though.

 

[NatF]

Not sure I'd rate Nole's backhand as highly as that mate. IMO he misses too much down the line these days for me to give him a 9.5 but maybe that's just me. The rest of your list seems pretty accurate though.

You agree with an 8 for his speed? That man is at least a 9.

 

[Russeljones]

I have a feeling you're right, not sure what I expect next year TBH.

My own rating, not relative to anyone else's.

Federer (current
First Serve: 9/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 8.5/10
Backhand: 7/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 9/10

Forehand was a 7.5-8 for most of the year but it started to look good again towards the end.

Going to go with this and add 0.5 to the Volleys and take 0.5 off the Footwork.

 

[NatF]

Federer (peak)

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 7.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 7.5/10
Touch: 8/10

 

[Djokovic2011]

You agree with an 8 for his speed? That man is at least a 9.

Possibly but I don't think he's quite as fast as he was a few years ago although that's to be expected I guess.

 

[Edgecrusher]

You agree with an 8 for his speed? That man is at least a 9.

Had to think about it and I think you´re right about this one.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Not sure I'd rate Nole's backhand as highly as that mate. IMO he misses too much down the line these days for me to give him a 9.5 but maybe that's just me. The rest of your list seems pretty accurate though.

Well, it´s not always a 9.5 neither are the other strokes always as constant as described in a few numbers. But I think this is his strongest stroke and the most consistent. It´s not only the bdtl it´s his crosscourt bh. When he plays this one with a lot of depth and changes the direction quickly IMO it´s a 9.5 or even 10.

 

[The Green Mile]

Federer (peak)

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 7.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 7.5/10
Touch: 8/10

Possibly add .5 to backhand and volleys for Peak Fed. His backhand, while suceptible to Nadal, was a great shot against the rest of the field. Throw in his slice, and I think we get at least an 8. He didn't come up to the net as much as he does today obviously, but they were always great. I like the other choices though.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

I'd give the Muzz an 8 for first serve.

I gave him a 7.5 but I'd agree with an 8 too.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Federer (peak)

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 7.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 7.5/10
Touch: 8/10

These are the changes I'd make.

First Serve: 9/10
Second Serve: 8.5/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 8.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 8/10
Touch: 8.5/10

Not much different, just a little better in some areas in my opinion.

 

[NatF]

These are the changes I'd make.

First Serve: 9/10
Second Serve: 8.5/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 8.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 8/10
Touch: 8.5/10

Not much different, just a little better in some era in my opinion.

Possibly add .5 to backhand and volleys for Peak Fed. His backhand, while suceptible to Nadal, was a great shot against the rest of the field. Throw in his slice, and I think we get at least an 8. He didn't come up to the net as much as he does today obviously, but they were always great. I like the other choices though.

I think those are fair comments, Federer's backhand peaked in 2006 IMO. I'd give it an 8 then but overall for his best years I think I'd stick to 7.5. In the other area's I don't feel like arguing for .5

Andy Roddick during his brief peak...

First Serve: 10/10
Second Serve: 10/10
Speed: 7/10
Mental Strength: 7/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 6/10
Footwork: 8/10
Volleys: 6/10
Touch: 5/10

 

[Algo]

Federer (peak)

First Serve: 9/10
Second Serve: 9.5/10
Speed: 9.5/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 8.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 8/10
Touch: 9.5/10

Federer (current)
First Serve: 9.5/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 7.5/10
Mental Strength: 8/10
Forehand: 9.5/10
Backhand: 7.5/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 10/10

 

[Chico]

Novak Djokovic:

First Serve: 8/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 7/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 10/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8/10
OH 3/10
ROS 10/10

 

[merwy]

I actually like Nadal's backhand. When he's playing well and aggressive it's such a powerful and heavy shot, but when he's playing badly and gets pushed back (e.g. by Djokovic) then he suddenly can't hit it over the service line anymore. So yeah, I agree with MN's 7 overall.

Novak Djokovic:

First Serve: 8/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 7/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 10/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8/10
OH 3/10
ROS 10/10

Funny how even you have to give him such a low rating on the overhead. The funny thing is, I've been watching many highlights of tennis matches lately and I didn't see Djokovic mess up a single overhead in all of them. I saw him hit like 10 OH winners in a row. But for some reason when I see him in a live match, I cringe every time he tries to go for one and he does mess it up a lot.
By the way, I'd give him at least an 8 (probably more) for speed, right? The guy moves bloody well.

Federer (currently):
First serve: 8.5/10
Second serve: 8.5/10
Speed: 7.5/10
Mental strength: 7/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 6.5/10 (for Big 3 standards)
Backhand slice: 9/10 (but it was a freaking 10 in his prime)
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Overhead: 9.5/10
ROS: 8/10

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Novak Djokovic:

First Serve: 8/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 7/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 10/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8/10
OH 3/10
ROS 10/10

Forehand 9/10? :lol:

I'll do Djokovic.

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 8/10
Forehand: 8/10
Backhand: 9.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 7/10
OH 5/10
ROS 10/10

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Feddy

First Serve: 9/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 8/10
Footwork: 9.5/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 9/10

 

[MichaelNadal]

Djokovic's footwork is neither a 9 or a 10. Footwork and movement are 2 different things, if you want to give him a 10 for movement that makes more sense.

@FirstServe, is that prime Fed?

 

[Mr.Snrub]

Djokovic's footwork is neither a 9 or a 10. Footwork and movement are 2 different things, if you want to give him a 10 for movement that makes more sense.

This was the first thing I noticed when reading through this thread.

Djokovic slips and falls and loses balance more than any other top player. Footwork is subpar to say the least.

 

[Shaolin]

Rios (peak)

Serve 7.5/10
Forehand 9/10
Backhand 8.8/10
Overhead 8.5/10
Volleys 9/10
Touch 10/10
Movement/Footwork 500,000/10
Shotmaking/creativity 10/10
Mental game 5/10
General attitude and demeanor -200/10

 

[John6239]

Federer (peak)

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 9/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 7.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 7.5/10
Touch: 8/10

Fed was definitely a 9 on 1st serve during his peak.

 

[wy2sl0]

Legit as possible.

Fed (Peak)

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 8.5/10
Mental Strength: 8/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 8.5/10 (if we include slice)
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 9.5/10 (he's human....I think)

Nadal (Peak)

First Serve: 7.5/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 9.5/10
Mental Strength: 9.5/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 7.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 8/10

Djoker (Peak)

First Serve: 8/10
Second Serve: 8.5/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 10/10
Forehand: 8.5/10
Backhand: 9.5/10
Footwork: 7.5/10
Volleys: 8/10
Touch: 7.5/10

For fun, 2009 Wimbledon Roddick

First Serve: 9.5/10
Second Serve: 10/10
Speed: 7/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10 (he saved a ton of game/set points)
Forehand: 8/10
Backhand: 7.5/10
Footwork: 7.5/10
Volleys: 7.5/10
Touch: 9/10 (I am telling you watch the highlights. He made some unbelievable gets).

 

[John6239]

Fed (Current)


First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 9.5/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 8/10
Backhand: 8/10
Footwork: 7.5/10
Volleys: 9/10
Touch: 7.5/10

His second serve has been very strong. Frequently hits it over 100mph and is able to get some service winners. Puts a lot on his second serve compared to other players.

Backhand is 8.0 because of consistency. His forehand was more error prone but he was able to get good winners off that wing. Though he lost his inside out and inside in years ago he can still do damage with his forehand.

He has been very mentally strong looking at him since the USO. He has saved match points and won the match in three matches and saved a lot of break points and set points in Shanghai and the WTF. When he loses it is usually because he was over powered or outplayed (Tsonga and Cilic) than mentally weak.

Just because he volleys more than any other player and wins a lot of those points he gets a 9. Fed had more touch with the old racket in his prime but he wasn't volleying as much as today.

 

[Amalhotra]

Delpo

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 7.5/10
Mental Strength: 8/10
Forehand: 10/10 (when on, probably 9-9.5 usually)
Backhand: 8.5/10
Footwork: 8.5/10
Volleys: 8/10
Touch: 8/10

Mans a beast and for his size, he has great volleys and touch

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Andy Murray

First Serve: 8/10
Second Serve: 4/10
Speed: 8.5/10
Mental Strength: 7/10
Forehand: 7/10
Backhand: 8/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 7/10

 

[Phalagoo]

Legit as possible.

Fed (Peak)

First Serve: 8.5/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 8.5/10
Mental Strength: 8/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 8.5/10 (if we include slice)
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 9.5/10 (he's human....I think)

Nadal (Peak)

First Serve: 7.5/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 9.5/10
Mental Strength: 9.5/10
Forehand: 10/10
Backhand: 7.5/10
Footwork: 10/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 8/10

Djoker (Peak)

First Serve: 8/10
Second Serve: 8.5/10
Speed: 9/10
Mental Strength: 10/10
Forehand: 8.5/10
Backhand: 9.5/10
Footwork: 7.5/10
Volleys: 8/10
Touch: 7.5/10

I think these are quite accurate besides some of Nadal's and Djokovic's. I think it's more like volleys 7.5 and touch 8.5 for Djokovic and backhand 8 to 8.5, volleys 8, and touch 8.5 for nadal.

 

[Tennisknowledge99]

Federer: (Current)

Forehand Power: 7.5/10

Forehand Consistency: 8/10

Forehand Precision: 8.5/10

Backhand Power: 6/10

Backhand Consistency: 5.5/10

Backhand Precision: 7/10

Return of Serve: 7/10

Net game: 9/10

Service Power: 8/10

Service Consistency: 8.5/10

Service Precision: 9/10

Footwork: 6/10

Stamina: 7.5/10

Mental Toughness: 7/10

Drop Shot: 6.5/10

Lob: 6.5/10

Counter: 8/10

 

[The_Mental_Giant]

I have a feeling you're right, not sure what I expect next year TBH.

My own rating, not relative to anyone else's.

Federer (current
First Serve: 9/10
Second Serve: 9/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 8.5/10
Backhand: 7/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 8.5/10
Touch: 9/10

Forehand was a 7.5-8 for most of the year but it started to look good again towards the end.

I agree with most of those...I still think his footwork could go to 9.5 though

 

[MichaelNadal]

Andy Murray

First Serve: 8/10
Second Serve: 4/10
Speed: 8.5/10
Mental Strength: 7/10
Forehand: 7/10
Backhand: 8/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 7/10

4/10 for SS? Ouch lol.

 

[Federer20042006]

From 1 to 10. Rate the effectiveness of each stroke (NOT relative to other players) but if you were giving them stats on a tennis game for example. You can use peak or currently, but specify which.

I'll start with Nadal.... (currently)

First Serve: 7/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 7/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 7/10

Since when are speed, mental strength, and footwork "strokes?" Heck, serves and volleys aren't really strokes, either.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Since when are speed, mental strength, and footwork "strokes?" Heck, serves and volleys aren't really strokes, either.

Bored today huh?

From 1 to 10. Rate the effectiveness of each stroke (NOT relative to other players) but if you were giving them stats on a tennis game for example. You can use peak or currently, but specify which.

I'll start with Nadal.... (currently)

First Serve: 7/10
Second Serve: 8/10
Speed: 8/10
Mental Strength: 8.5/10
Forehand: 9/10
Backhand: 7/10
Footwork: 9/10
Volleys: 7/10

Sure I could have given the non-strokes different names for those that need a child seat at the table like you, but the other adults seemed to get it just fine.

 

[Charlemagne]

Federer: (Current)

Forehand Power: 7.5/10

Forehand Consistency: 8/10

Forehand Precision: 8.5/10

Backhand Power: 6/10

Backhand Consistency: 5.5/10

Backhand Precision: 7/10

Return of Serve: 7/10

Net game: 9/10

Service Power: 8/10

Service Consistency: 8.5/10

Service Precision: 9/10

Footwork: 6/10

Stamina: 7.5/10

Mental Toughness: 7/10

Drop Shot: 6.5/10

Lob: 6.5/10

Counter: 8/10

You've been playing too much Tennis Elbow

 

[Tennisknowledge99]

You've been playing too much Tennis Elbow

You got me

 

[Algo]

You got me

FH/BH volley skills missing tho