We've had this thread like 3 times already man. There's even one with a poll in which Nadal comfortably leads.
Djokovic won 1 slam.
Nadal won 2 slams.
Nadal beat Djokovic both times they played each other at the slams.
With 1 first round loss and 1 absentia first round loss, the 2 major wins cannot be seen in isolation.
Contrast this with 1 major , 2 finals and 1 semi final.
It is more or less equal.
Masters dont matter when comparing greats.
Masters don't matter, especially when the player you hate most has the all time record.
What the OP is saying is that not all Nadal fan logics determine Nadal is the #1. Logic like TDK counter the argument and thus Nole is the #1.
If you want to include masters, then we have to count Novak's WTF first, which is valued 150 % at majors.
When it is all and done, it is mainly the majors , WTF that count.
Why not count everything according to the assigned ATP points then?
Plus I don't even know what you are doing supporting Djokovic's cause. I thought you were a Federer fan. What's in it for you? If Djokovic were to successfully deal with Rafa you wouldn't be able to say that even though Fed failed everybody else failed.
I guess at this point it is about stopping Nadal from breaking the slam record, am I right?
Check your facts again, then.It is not about Federer or Novak or Nadal.
I see 2013 as a fairly close year, where Novak accomplished a lot and was on the final Sunday in all tournaments.
Cannot say the same about Nadal.
It is not about Federer or Novak or Nadal.
I see 2013 as a fairly close year, where Novak accomplished a lot and was on the final Sunday in all tournaments.
Cannot say the same about Nadal.
5120 > 4010. Please read my signature.
Nadal wins 2 majors. Djokovic wins 1 major
Nadal wins 5 masters series. Djokovic wins 3 masters series + WTF
Nadal wins 10 tournaments. Djokovic wins 7 tournaments
Nadal wins their 2 biggest matches
Case closed.
5120 > 4010
3 Masters + WTF + Dubai + Beijing > 5 Masters
Ok I will give you:
0 < Vina Del Mar + Acapulco + the rest of MM points.
However the first two decide who is the best player of 2013 and it is not Nadal. Case closed.
According to a certain friend of us (TDK), 3-set matches shouldn't count because they are only half of a match. Going by the results of the slams, Djokovic earned more points in the slam events. Is he the real #1? (Note I don't think he is the real #1).
Nadal played 17 tournaments in 2013 and reached atleast the semifinals in 16 of them, all except Wimbledon.
He has all the most important stats and numbers in his corner.All tennis experts, except the ITF chose him as the best player in 2013.
Federer and Djokovic fans need to stop pushing this agenda on so many internet sites.It's not even funny.
Here, the Wikipedia and now 5555 has even opened a thread about this on MTF but even there, with so many Nadal haters, people disagree with him.
Djokovic had a fantastic season too but Rafa's was clearly better. If I could sign now a paper that says Rafa will win 2 slams in 2014 but lose everywhere else, I would do it.
Djokovic would've taken RG and another US open in a heartbeat and you know it.
Nadal had an awesome year, no denying that. But Nadal fans make it sound as though Novak was left far behind. That was not the case.
Not far behind but behind, i can't even understand there is a discussion about it
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1. healthy nadal cannot be defeated in grandslam finals...
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after doha 2014, more reasons for djokovic to be scared of rafa.....
If Monfils played Djoker in the finals, La Monf would have probably beaten Djokovic........:lol: What a shame
That's ridiculous.
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Djoko fans
Also don't forget guys, Nadal didn't lose at the AO.
He didn't compete that's different. He had no win there but also no lose there.
He lost only 1 match in grand slams in 2014.
Also don't forget guys, Nadal didn't lose at the AO.
He didn't compete that's different. He had no win there but also no lose there.
He lost only 1 match in grand slams in 2014.
Nadal had an awesome year, no denying that. But Nadal fans make it sound as though Novak was left far behind. That was not the case.
The 4 majors and WTF are the most important. Masters matter for overall points of the year, but it is not important in the scheme of things.
Nadal has 2 majors, 2 first round losses and 1 final.
Novak has 1 major, 1 WTF, 2 finals and 1 semi final.
Cannot see how there is a big difference.