Reasons why Roland Garros is not considered a slam

csmoove899

Semi-Pro
1. The three slams are played on real tennis surfaces, while Roland Garros is played on mud, a surface for children and the uncivilized.
2. The three slams have lights, while Roland Garros does not.
3. The three slams have roofs, while Roland Garros does not.
4. Recently, great players (Federer, Lendl, Agassi, Becker, Murray, Hewitt, Roddick, etc.) have opted to skip Roland Garros to better prepare for the slams.
5. Umpires announce in the universal language of English in the three slams, while some obscure argot is used in Roland Garros.

Feel free to contribute additional reasons why Roland Garros is not considered a slam.
 

GOATzilla

Banned
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Rafa has recently set up a special gofundme site for his saltiest of haters, for those special little trolls just like the OP. Those, so desperate for attention, they continue to spam impotent, pathetic and pointless threads in an effort to bash Rafa. It's truly a testament to his greatness, and to their insecurity and ultimate weakness.

**update: just checked Rafa's site, it's down for now, so it appears that you'll just have to
Go fund yourself.
 

BorgTheGOAT

Hall of Fame
That is so stupid it is actually funny. I know that you are not serious but only trolling, but reason 2 and 5 are just hilarious. Good thing that I only come here to have a good laugh, for serious discussions about tennis I go to the " Former Pro player" section.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
1. The three slams are played on real tennis surfaces, while Roland Garros is played on mud, a surface for children and the uncivilized.

Clay will reveal horrible technique (e.g,, every American male player's forehand having any contact with the USTA). This is a plus.

2. The three slams have lights, while Roland Garros does not.

Huge plus for R.G. Tennis should be played outdoors in the daylight.

3. The three slams have roofs, while Roland Garros does not.

Strongest argument to favor R.G. as the preeminent Slam.

4. Recently, great players (Federer, Lendl, Agassi, Becker, Murray, Hewitt, Roddick, etc.) have opted to skip Roland Garros to better prepare for the slams.

I defer to others whether this list is accurate (as far as the skipping) but it indicates they knew they couldn't win arguably the toughest test in tennis - beating Rafa at R.G. Lendl famously skipped W one year quipping about allergies.

5. Umpires announce in the universal language of English in the three slams, while some obscure argot is used in Roland Garros.

The French can be a tad proud/insecure. But they give us tasty treats like Le Croissant !
 
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Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
I think the four slams is perfect the way things are. Wimbledon favoring S&V with quick points and Roland Garros for long rallies, while AO and USO in between with AO being fast HC and USO being medium HC. Maybe throw in a new 5th slam using a slow HC. That wood be great because the slams are so much more exciting to watch. Hold the 5th slam in South American where it's summer time when it's winter up north.

By the way, Roland Garros doesn't really need lights because in that part of the world, the sun doesn't set until about 11 PM. They just need to adjust the scheduling to ensure matches end before then, but with best of five sets and no match clock winding down, it's not so easy to do unless they strictly enforce the between the point time limits and other delaying tactics players like using.
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
1. The three slams are played on real tennis surfaces, while Roland Garros is played on mud, a surface for children and the uncivilized.
2. The three slams have lights, while Roland Garros does not.
3. The three slams have roofs, while Roland Garros does not.
4. Recently, great players (Federer, Lendl, Agassi, Becker, Murray, Hewitt, Roddick, etc.) have opted to skip Roland Garros to better prepare for the slams.
5. Umpires announce in the universal language of English in the three slams, while some obscure argot is used in Roland Garros.

Feel free to contribute additional reasons why Roland Garros is not considered a slam.

Thanks for this funny joke, troll!
 

KingKyrgios

Professional
I think the four slams is perfect the way things are. Wimbledon favoring S&V with quick points and Roland Garros for long rallies, while AO and USO in between with AO being fast HC and USO being medium HC. Maybe throw in a new 5th slam using a slow HC. That wood be great because the slams are so much more exciting to watch. Hold the 5th slam in South American where it's summer time when it's winter up north.

By the way, Roland Garros doesn't really need lights because in that part of the world, the sun doesn't set until about 11 PM. They just need to adjust the scheduling to ensure matches end before then, but with best of five sets and no match clock winding down, it's not so easy to do unless they strictly enforce the between the point time limits and other delaying tactics players like using.

Not this millennium...
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Poor tournament direction two years in a row. Make people play in the rain and leave crap on the court that breaks ppls ankles.

They should drop it to a masters and replace it with indian wells.

No reason to play mule tennis so close to wimbledon, want the players fresh for the 2nd biggest tennis tournament in the world

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jaggy

Talk Tennis Guru
Poor tournament direction two years in a row. Make people play in the rain and leave crap on the court that breaks ppls ankles.

They should drop it to a masters and replace it with indian wells.

No reason to play mule tennis so close to wimbledon, want the players fresh for the biggest tennis tournament in the world
Are they moving Cincy to an earlier date?
 

swizzy

Hall of Fame
it is set in paris.. that is wonderful. the surface is and has been used for tennis longer than hardcourt.. that is steeped in history. variety is the spice of life.. so clay is a very welcome slam.. they all are.. and rafa snagged 10 of them pretty awesome.. what a great year this was best in recent memory
 
It is not considered a real slam by some of the ungracious Fed and Sampras fans on this forum because Nadal dominats it. All real tennis fans recognise it as a slam.

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Reason why Wimbledon is NOT considered a Grand Slam: grass is a boring surface that doesn't allow rallies. Perfect for servebots.
If you look at the way the ATP has gone over the last few decades, you would have to say that if it wasn't for Wimbledon then grass would be extinct as a surface right now. Clay and RG are very relevant

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PrinceMoron

Legend
Well the Olympics will be on clay in 2024 and Nadal will be annoying the French even more
I guess they will have to put the WTF on clay so Nadal can finally hang up his racquets


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kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Well the Olympics will be on clay in 2024 and Nadal will be annoying the French even more
I guess they will have to put the WTF on clay so Nadal can finally hang up his racquets


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It should've been contended on different surfaces anyway, if it was to be 'fair' for everyone.
Just as well for Rog that its never been a place Rafa excels eh .
 
Only problem with RG is the lack of hawkeye which ends up with the players having to draw lines in clay & the umpire having to constantly run down to confirm what we can all see, aside from the terrible conduct of the fans-but Wimbledon has its pointless rest day & the US allows tie-breaks in the deciding set so only the Aussie doesn't have a peculiarity.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
1. The three slams are played on real tennis surfaces, while Roland Garros is played on mud, a surface for children and the uncivilized.
2. The three slams have lights, while Roland Garros does not.
3. The three slams have roofs, while Roland Garros does not.
4. Recently, great players (Federer, Lendl, Agassi, Becker, Murray, Hewitt, Roddick, etc.) have opted to skip Roland Garros to better prepare for the slams.
5. Umpires announce in the universal language of English in the three slams, while some obscure argot is used in Roland Garros.

Feel free to contribute additional reasons why Roland Garros is not considered a slam.
Wimbledon is a non slam because almost nobody plays tennis on grass.
It is just a obscure concoction to maintain a XIX century tradition stuffed with royal family cameos and strawberries with cream.
 
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Tiki-Taka

Guest
Feel free to contribute additional reasons why Roland Garros is not considered a slam.
Nadal won it so many times.

You could have just written this instead of wasting time on making a disguise by making up those 5 reasons.
 

Maestroesque

Professional
That 'non-slam' meant so much to Fed that he cried like a baby when he finally won it , and its held against pistol Pete that he couldn't win it.

FAIL.
Tbh I think he wanted to win it because he wanted to hold ALL four grand slams, it's why he doesn't play on the surface much anymore
 
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Zara

Guest
He cried because he couldn't believe how long it took him to win such a low tier tournament.

I mean imagine that - if he cries over something so trivial. And if you pay attention, you will notice I am rolling my eyes at you.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
I mean imagine that - if he cries over something so trivial. And if you pay attention, you will notice I am rolling my eyes at you.
Yes, Federer is very emotional. He cried at some 500 tournament in Basel multiple times in the past. The FO is like a 750 so he's gonna be more emotional, obviously.

wer dat eye rol
 

peakin11mugs

Semi-Pro
If you look at the way the ATP has gone over the last few decades, you would have to say that if it wasn't for Wimbledon then grass would be extinct as a surface right now. Chat and RG are very relevant

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Most people who play tennis will never even see a grass or clay court in real life which is a shame as they are both unique surfaces and softer than hard courts but for the world tennis is basically hardcourt now
 
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