Records that you thought would fall but survived

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What are some records you thought were likely to fall at a specific point in time but still exist today. Some for me.

-Navratilova's Wimbledon record. At the end of 96 I would have said Graf was a near lock to atleast tie, but had an over 50% chance to even break. She was at 7, needing 2 to tie, 3 to break. There was seemingly nobody close to her on grass. The hot up and comer, who some thought would challenge Graf's #1 ranking before 97, is not great on grass, by far her worst surface (still clearly is despite that she did win a Wimbledon, had a shot at 1 or 2 others, and never won the French, as her two 1st round losses while world #1 indicate as well), and never seemed likely to be a big obstacle to Graf there, even is threatened her everywhere else and for the #1 ranking. Seles was not back to peak fitness or her peak level, and wasn't looking that near or likely to reach it, but even if she did on grass she had never proven herself a serious threat to Graf even at her very best (Seles's best ever performance on grass was a pre stabbing Wimbledon final that still wound up in a total massacre to Graf). Sanchez was becoming more dominated again in her rivalry with Graf by then, not only losing all their 95 and 96 matches, but not winning a tournament Graf was even in the draw those 2 years, and her epic Wimbledon final vs Graf in 95 looked like an outlier, as that is the surface she is least likely to threaten Graf on. Novotna, the 2nd best grass courter was Graf's pigeon, especialy mentally. Nobody was predicting the Williams to be contending for the Wimbledon title by 99/2000 at end of 96 either, in fact most still saw them as a joke rumor mill, that would probably never be serious, full time players on tour. Of course Graf wound up not winning another Wimbledon, mainly due to major injuries in 97 and 98 that nearly forced her into retirement before her actual late 99 retirement.

I do think many were thinking Serena may tie or even break it at the point she got to #7, but I don't think it had the feeling of high likelihood/inevitability it did with Graf.

-Court's Slam record. Again I (and I think most) expected this was 100% falling to Graf at end of 96, maybe even more obviously than the Wimbledon record as 3 Wimbledons at already age 27 is never a safe or certain guarantee, but atleast 4 more overall slams for Graf at end of 96 seemed super likely. She had won the last 6 she played, and there seemed be no even challengers on the horizon besides possibly Hingis, Seles if she got back to absolte full fitness, and potentially Davenport who began moving closer to being a real contender plus a tough opponent for Graf after her Olympic win. Novotna had a good 96, and looked like a potential contender going into 97, but as already noted was Graf's pigeon, and always seemed likely to only be able to win events if someone else took out Graf for her (as it turns out even her long awaited big titles at the 97 YEC and 98 Wimbledon, and her potential missed opportunities of big titles at 98 US Open, 97 Wimbledon, maybe 97 or 98 RG, were only when Graf was taken out for her). Sanchez ended 96 looking burnt out and washed up, with horrible showings post her upset 96 US Open loss to Hingis; her 97 surprised few people at that point, and the only surprise to anyone was her moderate resurgence to one last hurrah as a real contender in 98. I think atleast 90% of people would have predicted Graf reaching atleast the benchmark number of 25 at that point.

However this is a two part story as this applies twice. When Serena got to 23 is there seriously anyone who thought she wasn't getting to 25, despite her age? Even after her unexpected pregnancy she reached 4 slam finals, and was nearly everyones pick to win in all 4 (some called the Andreescu loss, but definitely none of the other 3), but lost all 4, plus some other times she fell in the semis people were predicting victory. Not only did she not reach 25 she didn't reach 24. Court's record remained unscathed, when it looked nearly certain to fall first to Graf, then to Serena.

-Federer's Wimbledon record. Honestly before the 2023 final did many people see this mark remaining the sole record? The vast majority of people felt Djokovic was the more likely winner of the 2023 final itself, a result that would already tie the record. I think most at that point figured the odds were good Djokovic would win atleast 2 more, and break it. Now granted this literally swung on that one match, as after losing the 2023 final, the feeling of certainty Djokovic was winning #8, and the likelihood of his winning #9, both diminished gigantically. Technically this record is still under assault as Djokovic is active, but 8 Wimbledons is looking safer all the time.

-King's combined Wimbledon record. She does not hold the record on her own now, she is tied with Navratilova at 20. However it seemed likely she would lose the record altogether, with Navratilova likely reaching 21. It did not happen, and it felt for quite awhile that it would, especialy when Navratilova was at 18 entering Wimbledon 95, and was a strong contender for both the womens doubles (playing with Graf, before Graf WD, many picked the Navratilova/Graf team to win) and mixed (which she win, reaching #19). Still going very strong in doubles and mixed at that point, regardless of partners, it seemed likely she would win atleast 3 more from the title, to gain sole possession of the record.

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5 US Open titles in the Open Era. At some point it looked like a safe bet that even the all-time record of 7 (Tilden, Larned, Sears) would be beaten by Federer and/or Djokovic.
That is a good one. When Federer won his 5th straight in 08 it looked like a total lock he breaks the shared Open Era record of 5 with Connors and Sampras. And that atleast tying the all time mark of 7 was very possible, even maybe breaking it. Nadal had cut into his dominance, and in fact usurped him as worlds best at that point, but US Open was looking like his worst slam at this point (ironically would wind up being his 2nd best). Djokovic was on the rise but not close to dominant yet. Before that Sampras looked very likely during the 97 US Open to be on road to breaking 5 (he was already at 4, and was the heavy favorite to win that exact US Open until the Korda lost). As it turned out it would take him until 2002 to win another, his final. Connors, Sampras, Federer remain tied. Djokovic is yet to reach 5, let alone go past it, and probably never will at this point. And Tilden and 2 guys hardly anyone has ever heard of remain tied for the all time record.
 
That is a good one. When Federer won his 5th straight in 08 it looked like a total lock he breaks the shared Open Era record of 5 with Connors and Sampras. And that atleast tying the all time mark of 7 was very possible, even maybe breaking it. Nadal had cut into his dominance, and in fact usurped him as worlds best at that point, but US Open was looking like his worst slam at this point (ironically would wind up being his 2nd best). Djokovic was on the rise but not close to dominant yet. Before that Sampras looked very likely during the 97 US Open to be on road to breaking 5 (he was already at 4, and was the heavy favorite to win that exact US Open until the Korda lost). As it turned out it would take him until 2002 to win another, his final. Connors, Sampras, Federer remain tied. Djokovic is yet to reach 5, let alone go past it, and probably never will at this point. And Tilden and 2 guys hardly anyone has ever heard of remain tied for the all time record.
federers loss to del potro in 2009 uso final is his second most bitter loss, after 40 - 15. all his other losses he avenged (except 40 - 15), but he never won uso again
 
That is a good one. When Federer won his 5th straight in 08 it looked like a total lock he breaks the shared Open Era record of 5 with Connors and Sampras. And that atleast tying the all time mark of 7 was very possible, even maybe breaking it. Nadal had cut into his dominance, and in fact usurped him as worlds best at that point, but US Open was looking like his worst slam at this point (ironically would wind up being his 2nd best). Djokovic was on the rise but not close to dominant yet. Before that Sampras looked very likely during the 97 US Open to be on road to breaking 5 (he was already at 4, and was the heavy favorite to win that exact US Open until the Korda lost). As it turned out it would take him until 2002 to win another, his final. Connors, Sampras, Federer remain tied. Djokovic is yet to reach 5, let alone go past it, and probably never will at this point. And Tilden and 2 guys hardly anyone has ever heard of remain tied for the all time record.
I too, thought Fed would break the USO record. I mean, he got 5 in a row, why not 1 more? I was surprised that Sampras got #5, but blame Agassi for that. Djoko is not getting there. His only hope now is at the AO, IMHO.
 
I highly agree with the first post. At the end of 96 everyone thought that Graf would end up with the Wimbledon and Slam reord with ease. She was only 27 and as dominant as ever.
 
You would think that the youngest ever world No.1 would emerge after Hoad in 1953, and especially with young players such as Borg and Becker in the running. But that record is still in existence.


However, the ATP is still confused about this, and they claim that Alcarez is the " the youngest No. 1 in history at 19 years, four months."

Strange recency bias.

 
Its interesting with Serena. I at one point was questioning if she would even get to the 18 major mark. Around 2010 when she injured her foot and she ended up out for like a year, combined with her outside interests and other issues...I remember saying pretty vocally she'd be lucky to make it to 18 majors (I think at that point she had 13). She had reduced her schedule, and around that time despite holding 5 majors in a couple years period, only won like 1 or 2 non major titles. I thought she was getting ready to go on her own terms, she had talked about eventually wanting to be a mom even then if I remember correctly. Then come 2015 it seemed like destiny she was going to not only win the CYGS, but that Courts record was hers for the taking. She wins #23 while pregnant...gives birth to her beautiful baby girl...and has the scares again with blood clots. She came back, and you know mentally she wanted it but her body couldn't completely give it to her.

Ironically, she proved me wrong twice, she shattered my initial belief she wouldn't hit 18 to pieces then came just short of Courts record LOL.
 
Here are a few that I’m surprised went broken

Most consecutive years of making a slam final(11 by Lendl and Sampras). Note: Borg’s streak was at 8 at age 25, then he never played another slam again.

USO titles at 5. This should have been broken

Lendl’s 465 consecutive weeks ranked in the top 3.

Connors 44 consecutive sets won

Federer’s 36 consecutive sets won at slams (Sinner did get to 31)
 
I actually thought by now that one of Fedalovic would've tied Chrissie's record of 13 years in a row with at least 1 Slam win. Nadal got to 11 I believe (2005-2014) and Fed got to was 8 (2003-2010). I think Djoko got to 6 I believe (2011-2016). Either one of those 3 had the longevity to do it, but just missed out
 
Serena equalled Evert's record of 6 US Open titles (given that the tournament was called the US National Championships before 1968, we don't have use the open era disclaimer there), but wasn't able to break it.

She won her 6th US Open in 2014, only conceding 32 games including no more than 3 in any set. At that stage, I fully expected her to win a 7th US Open title. But then when she returned the next year in 2015, she was impacted by the huge pressure to try to complete the grand slam. Ahead of that tournament, I personally didn't think she was going to do it, unlike in 1988 when pre-US Open I thought that Graf was guaranteed to get the job done.

After 2014, she won 2 more Australian Opens, 2 more Wimbledons and 1 more Roland Garros title, but no more US Opens.
 
I actually thought by now that one of Fedalovic would've tied Chrissie's record of 13 years in a row with at least 1 Slam win. Nadal got to 11 I believe (2005-2014) and Fed got to was 8 (2003-2010). I think Djoko got to 6 I believe (2011-2016). Either one of those 3 had the longevity to do it, but just missed out
10 in a row for Nadal (2005-2014), and 15 overall (also 2017-2020, 2022), both of which are records in men's tennis.

Some people would say that Nadal wasn't as consistent as Federer and Djokovic, but the above record, and Nadal also having 900+ consecutive weeks in the top 10, suggests otherwise.
 
10 in a row for Nadal (2005-2014), and 15 overall (also 2017-2020, 2022), both of which are records in men's tennis.

Some people would say that Nadal wasn't as consistent as Federer and Djokovic, but the above record, and Nadal also having 900+ consecutive weeks in the top 10, suggests otherwise.
Weeks in Top 10 is just another day at the office.
 
I too, thought Fed would break the USO record. I mean, he got 5 in a row, why not 1 more? I was surprised that Sampras got #5, but blame Agassi for that. Djoko is not getting there. His only hope now is at the AO, IMHO.

Yeah if you asked people if Federer would break the US Open record after 2008 when he was already tied for it at 5, 99 out of 100 atleast would have said yes. Heck if you asked people that question at nearly any point before the end of the 4th/5th sets of the 2009 US Open final possibly, nearly everyone would have said he would have already had it broken that day.
 
10 in a row for Nadal (2005-2014), and 15 overall (also 2017-2020, 2022), both of which are records in men's tennis.

Some people would say that Nadal wasn't as consistent as Federer and Djokovic, but the above record, and Nadal also having 900+ consecutive weeks in the top 10, suggests otherwise.
Hmmm, Nadal was as consistent week-to-week as the other guys. But not year-to-year, as he couldn't stay healthy as often.
 
10 in a row for Nadal (2005-2014), and 15 overall (also 2017-2020, 2022), both of which are records in men's tennis.

Some people would say that Nadal wasn't as consistent as Federer and Djokovic, but the abeove record, and Nadal also having 900+ consecutive weeks in the top 10, suggests otherwise.
EXACTLY. Him achieving those records WITH all the injuries he endured...is frankly ridiculous

His 912 consecutive weeks in the top 10 won't even be sniffed (and only ended due to him being out virtually the entire 2023 season due to injury)
 
I thought Novak would break the record for most titles in Canada, Miami, and Indian Wells.

He hasn't won any of those tournaments since 2016.
Especially the Sunshine Double—he had won it three years in a row back then.
To go without a single title since then... it's just like Roger's US Open streak.
 
Yeah if you asked people if Federer would break the US Open record after 2008 when he was already tied for it at 5, 99 out of 100 atleast would have said yes. Heck if you asked people that question at nearly any point before the end of the 4th/5th sets of the 2009 US Open final possibly, nearly everyone would have said he would have already had it broken that day.
I thought he would easily get to 6 titles. So much for that!
 
I thought Novak would break the record for most titles in Canada, Miami, and Indian Wells.

He hasn't won any of those tournaments since 2016.
Especially the Sunshine Double—he had won it three years in a row back then.
To go without a single title since then... it's just like Roger's US Open streak.

Wow I didn't realize that and pretty surprised at that, with the number of hard court slams he has won between 2018 and 2023, and that he has been majorly in contention all these years minus 2017.
 
Wow I didn't realize that and pretty surprised at that, with the number of hard court slams he has won between 2018 and 2023, and that he has been majorly in contention all these years minus 2017.
I looked into this using wiki statistics, and most cases were due to non-participation.

Canada has only participated once since 2016 (losing to Tsitsipas in 2018).
Indian Wells and Miami have skipped four consecutive years from 2020 to 2023.
This result likely stems from complex external factors like suspensions and other circumstances.
 
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