Red Clay in Houston

jdx2112

Hall of Fame
Anyone know about the red clay surface in Houston? Site says fast-dry red clay, but not much else. Curious how it compares to har-tru and euro red brick.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
According to this post, it's a mix of American red clay and European clay:

 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
According to this post, it's a mix of American red clay and European clay:

Lots of improvements in court surface technology have been made since the bulk of those posts in this 2008 thread. If River Oaks has stayed on top of things and/or RedClayUSA has been diligent in their sales efforts they should now be playing on their RedClay Pro surface.

The company name indicates they’re from America but it’s a German/American consortium designed to attempt to make inroads in the U.S. clay market. It seems to be working as they have a decent roster of clubs switching, located in many states from NJ to TX. Their smart marketing campaign touts the lower maintenance costs with their system in addition to improvements in playing consistency and down time after adverse weather. To prove their “bones” they are proud to have provided the court surfacing at the WTA Stuttgart tournament since 2010. Another happy client is the USTA National campus here in Orlando, who hired them a few years ago to install the red clay section of their massive complex.
 

jdx2112

Hall of Fame
Lots of improvements in court surface technology have been made since the bulk of those posts in this 2008 thread. If River Oaks has stayed on top of things and/or RedClayUSA has been diligent in their sales efforts they should now be playing on their RedClay Pro surface.

The company name indicates they’re from America but it’s a German/American consortium designed to attempt to make inroads in the U.S. clay market. It seems to be working as they have a decent roster of clubs switching, located in many states from NJ to TX. Their smart marketing campaign touts the lower maintenance costs with their system in addition to improvements in playing consistency and down time after adverse weather. To prove their “bones” they are proud to have provided the court surfacing at the WTA Stuttgart tournament since 2010. Another happy client is the USTA National campus here in Orlando, who hired them a few years ago to install the red clay section of their massive complex.
Pretty sure Houston's court is this stuff:


So essentially a hartru technology and design but with a different clay mix -- European dust plus red stone...according to Hartru it's slower than the green stuff...and probably a little faster than the everyday red stuff...but that depends on maintenance and the local terracotta supply...looks good to me...would love to play on it.
 

jdx2112

Hall of Fame
Watching Houston reminds me why I love clay so much. It's slower, sure, but the craft and guile and the way the geometry of points changes on this surface is really fun to watch.

And when it warms up, like this afternoon, clay gets deceptively fast. It's not fast like an indoor hard courts where first-strike power is rewarded, but the ball can skid more and get past players in interesting ways.
 

mikeler

Moderator
Lots of improvements in court surface technology have been made since the bulk of those posts in this 2008 thread. If River Oaks has stayed on top of things and/or RedClayUSA has been diligent in their sales efforts they should now be playing on their RedClay Pro surface.

The company name indicates they’re from America but it’s a German/American consortium designed to attempt to make inroads in the U.S. clay market. It seems to be working as they have a decent roster of clubs switching, located in many states from NJ to TX. Their smart marketing campaign touts the lower maintenance costs with their system in addition to improvements in playing consistency and down time after adverse weather. To prove their “bones” they are proud to have provided the court surfacing at the WTA Stuttgart tournament since 2010. Another happy client is the USTA National campus here in Orlando, who hired them a few years ago to install the red clay section of their massive complex.

The Orlando clay plays just like the red clay I've been on in Germany. Not like Har-Tru at all.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The Orlando clay plays just like the red clay I've been on in Germany. Not like Har-Tru at all.
Did I say they were Har Tru? No, I said a German company that first installed the WTA Stuttgart courts in 2010 has now expanded and are installing courts here in the USA. They claim on their website they were contracted by USTA to do the courts here in Orlando. Here’s a quote at their website: “I love your product.”- Tim Cass, GM USTA National Campus, Orlando FL.

You can visit redclayusa.com for confirmation.
 

jdx2112

Hall of Fame
Did I say they were Har Tru? No, I said a German company that first installed the WTA Stuttgart courts in 2010 has now expanded and are installing courts here in the USA. They claim on their website they were contracted by USTA to do the courts here in Orlando. Here’s a quote at their website: “I love your product.”- Tim Cass, GM USTA National Campus, Orlando FL.

You can visit redclayusa.com for confirmation.
think he was responding to my post.
 

mikeler

Moderator
But he quoted my post.

Jdx is right, I should have done multi-quote Tom. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Just wanted folks to know if you want a true red clay experience it can be found there. Not sure the USTA Campus allows you to pay for it like pre-covid (the two times I played it was $50/court for 90 minutes).
 
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