Reference thread for Djokovic closing in on key stats and records

[NoleFam]

I created a fun thread a few weeks ago for Djokovic's fans about Djokovic's staggering 15 straight top 5 wins at AO and it got deleted for no apparent reason after a day or two. Anyways...here is another thread to monitor and update as Djokovic starts closing in on some Open Era records.

Top 5 wins leaders
1. Federer 104
2. Djokovic 101
3. Lendl 94
4. Nadal 85
5. Becker 68

Top 10 wins leaders
1. Federer 223
2. Djokovic 210
3. Nadal 171
4. Lendl 162
5. Connors 138


Weeks at #1
1. Federer 310
2. Sampras 286
3. Djokovic 279
4. Lendl 270
5. Connors 268

Djokovic could surpass all these by the years end but he is closest to the top 5 record. Weeks at #1 is a bit farther away but he has a chance to pass this as well.

 

[BlueB]

It's quite comical how far behind is Nadal with top 5 and 10 wins. Maybe there is something to all the cake draws claims, we hear so often on these boards...

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[TheAssassin]

He's already half way to last season's number of top 10 wins. 9 in the entire 2019, 5 in these two months. Good sign.

It's quite comical how far behind is Nadal with top 5 and 10 wins. Maybe there is something in all the cake draws claims, we here so often on these boards...

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That, and his winning percentage against the top 10 on hard courts is pretty average.

 

[NoleFam]

It's quite comical how far behind is Nadal with top 5 and 10 wins. Maybe there is something in all the cake draws claims, we here so often on these boards...

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I think it's because he went so long without making deep runs at Wimbledon and he's had some easier draws at the USO. He's had tough draws at AO and RG though. He also wasn't not quite dominant over the whole tour like the other two were.

 

[NoleFam]

He's already half way to last season's number of top 10 wins. 9 in the entire 2019, 5 in these two months. Good sign.

That, and his winning percentage against the top 10 on hard courts is pretty average.

Yea he's already beaten entire top 5 already, except himself, and it looks like 2020 will be a better year for him if he keeps this up. I don't think the top 10 record will be surpassed this year though but he's inching closer.

 

[Sport]

I think it's because he went so long without making deep runs at Wimbledon and he's had some easier draws at the USO. He's had tough draws at AO and RG though. He also wasn't not quite dominant over the whole tour like the other two were.

Not "some" in plural. He only had the USO 2017 as relatively easy, just like Djokovic had the USO 2018 as relatively easy and Federer had the USO 2006 as relatively easy. In the USO 2010 he had to defeat a Djokovic who had previously Fed, erer in the semifinal, in the USO 2013 he had to defeat the #1 Djokovic, and in the USO 2019 he had to defeat a well-playing Medvedev who had previously won the Masters 1000 Cincinnati 2019 defeating Djokovic in the process.

 

[Sport]

It's quite comical how far behind is Nadal with top 5 and 10 wins. Maybe there is something in all the cake draws claims, we here so often on these boards...

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Nadal leads the H2H in Slams over both Federer and Djokovic, and has a higher winning percentage in Slam finals than any of them. That is comical.

 

[TheAssassin]

Not "some" in plural. He only had the USO 2017 as relaitvely easy, just like Djokovic had the USO 2018 as relatively easy and Federer had the USO 2006 as relatively easy. In the USO 2010 he had to defeat a Djokovic who had previously Fed, erer in the semifinal, in the USO 2013 he had to defeat the #1 Djokovic, and in the USO 2019 he had to defeat a well-playing Medvedev who had previously won Cincinnati 2019 defeating Djokovic in the process.

He has until Wimbledon to narrow the deficit to single digits with Federer out until then. Then we'll see.

Still not sure how he will do in non-Slam events. With weeks record getting close though he could focus on doing better than last year.

 

[jm1980]

Not "some" in plural. He only had the USO 2017 as relatively easy, just like Djokovic had the USO 2018 as relatively easy and Federer had the USO 2006 as relatively easy. In the USO 2010 he had to defeat a Djokovic who had previously Fed, erer in the semifinal, in the USO 2013 he had to defeat the #1 Djokovic, and in the USO 2019 he had to defeat a well-playing Medvedev who had previously won the Masters 1000 Cincinnati 2019 defeating Djokovic in the process.

Nadal had really soft draws at the USO in 2010 and 2013. Not a decent name in both of them aside from Djokovic, who had to play grueling 5-setters in both semis

His USO 2019 draw was a joke too. So yeah, Nadal's possibly the luckiest player in history when it comes to USO draws

 

[NoleFam]

Not "some" in plural. He only had the USO 2017 as relatively easy, just like Djokovic had the USO 2018 as relatively easy and Federer had the USO 2006 as relatively easy. In the USO 2010 he had to defeat a Djokovic who had previously Fed, erer in the semifinal, in the USO 2013 he had to defeat the #1 Djokovic, and in the USO 2019 he had to defeat a well-playing Medvedev who had previously won the Masters 1000 Cincinnati 2019 defeating Djokovic in the process.

But compare his top 10 wins at the USO for his career to Djokovic's and look at the difference. He's beat top players at the USO, no doubt, but rarely has he had to beat them multiple times in a row like he has at AO.

 

[Phoenix1983]

Good to know we have a countdown to Armageddon.

 

[NoleFam]

He has until Wimbledon to narrow the deficit to single digits with Federer out until then. Then we'll see.

Still not sure how he will do in non-Slam events. With weeks record getting close though he could focus on doing better than last year.

I think he can narrow the deficit with Federer too, especially since he will be out injured for a few tournaments, but I'm expecting Federer to add top 10 wins later this year so I think he may keep his nose in front for now.

I think with #1 record on the line, he will give more effort in non-Slam events this year compared to last year.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Someone please hurry up and find the book of Amun Ra

 

[Sport]

Nadal had really soft draws at the USO in 2010 and 2013. Not a decent name in both of them aside from Djokovic, who had to play grueling 5-setters in both semis

His USO 2019 draw was a joke too. So yeah, Nadal's possibly the luckiest player in history when it comes to USO draws

Keep hating on Nadal.

The USO 2019 draw was not "soft" as he had to face an in-form and well-playing Medvedev who had previously won the Masters 1000 Cincinnati 2019 defeating Djokovic in the process.

And neither the USO 2010 nor the USO 2013 had easy draws. Having to face Djokovic is never an easy draw, even if he has played a 5 setter the previous round. That would like saying that Djokovic had an easy draw at Wimbledon 2018 because he had to face a Nadal who played a 5 setter against Del Potro the previous round.

 

[jm1980]

Keep hating on Nadal.

The USO 2019 draw was not "soft" as he had to face an in-form and well-playing Medvedev who had previously won the Masters 1000 Cincinnati 2019 defeating Djokovic in the process.

And neither the USO 2010 nor the USO 2013 had easy draws. Having to face Djokovic is never an easy draw, even if he has played a 5 setter the previous round. That would like saying that Djokovic had an easy draw at Wimbledon 2018 because he had to face a Nadal who played a 5 setter against Del Potro the previous round.

One tough opponent doesn't make a tough draw

How tough is the draw if you get to play Youzhny, Gasquet, and Berrettini in the semis?

 

[swordtennis]

Problem.
1st round exit is a better result than a final.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Yea he's already beaten entire top 5 already, except himself, and it looks like 2020 will be a better year for him if he keeps this up. I don't think the top 10 record will be surpassed this year though but he's inching closer.

In an unlikely event that he and Dennis Novak meet in the Dubai quarterfinal, he can do that too in a way, no?

 

[NoleFam]

In an unlikely event that he and Dennis Novak meet in the Dubai quarterfinal, he can do that too in a way, no?

Or...if he plays a match like he did against Berdych one year in Rome, I forget the year, where he basically choked from a set and 4-2 up. Or was it 5-2 up? I think that would qualify as beating himself too.

 

[StrongRule]

One tough opponent doesn't make a tough draw

How tough is the draw if you get to play Youzhny, Gasquet, and Berrettini in the semis?

I guess no player in history ever had any tough draws then. Because for a top player it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to face other top players in the first round, believe it or not. And I really like how you never mentioned Djokovic's easy 2015 and 2018 USO draws. (leave alone 2016, but he didn't win that one). I guess an injured Cilic and this mug Nishikori are very tough semifinal opponents according to you.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Or...if he plays a match like he did against Berdych one year in Rome, I forget the year, where he basically choked from a set and 4-2 up. Or was it 5-2 up? I think that would qualify as beating himself too.

Yeah. Can't recall any other match that Novak lost after previously serving for it.

 

[Fridge]

It's quite comical how far behind is Nadal with top 5 and 10 wins. Maybe there is something in all the cake draws claims, we here so often on these boards...

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Or because he has been away from the game for long periods of time, but we know thinking in Nadal's favor isn't in your wheelhouse

 

[PeoplesChamp]

I created a fun thread a few weeks ago for Djokovic's fans about Djokovic's staggering 15 straight top 5 wins at AO and it got deleted for no apparent reason after a day or two. Anyways...here is another thread to monitor and update as Djokovic starts closing in on some Open Era records.

Top 5 wins leaders
1. Federer 104
2. Djokovic 101
3. Lendl 94
4. Nadal 85
5. Becker 68

Top 10 wins leaders
1. Federer 223
2. Djokovic 210
3. Nadal 171
4. Lendl 162
5. Connors 138


Weeks at #1
1. Federer 310
2. Sampras 286
3. Djokovic 279
4. Lendl 270
5. Connors 268

Djokovic could surpass all these by the years end but he is closest to the top 5 record. Weeks at #1 is a bit farther away but he has a chance to pass this as well.

50% of it or more prolly since Fed turned 30.

 

[Hitman]

Or...if he plays a match like he did against Berdych one year in Rome, I forget the year, where he basically choked from a set and 4-2 up. Or was it 5-2 up? I think that would qualify as beating himself too.

That was 2013. One of the worst years for mental stability that Djokoivc has shown since 2011.

 

[jm1980]

I guess no player in history ever had any tough draws then. Because for a top player it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to face other top players in the first round, believe it or not.

When did I say anything about first round? I'm saying you can't call Youzhny, Gasquet, and Berrettini tough SF opponents.

And I really like how you never mentioned Djokovic's easy 2015 and 2018 USO draws. (leave alone 2016, but he didn't win that one). I guess an injured Cilic and this mug Nishikori are very tough semifinal opponents according to you.

Djokovic should be getting way more easy USO draws, if anything, just as a way to restore some cosmic balance from all tough draws he's had at this tournament

 

[swordtennis]

LOL for the gods sake get off feds lap and get a room!

 

[Fridge]

When did I say anything about first round? I'm saying you can't call Youzhny, Gasquet, and Berrettini tough SF opponents.


Djokovic should be getting way more easy USO draws, if anything, just as a way to restore some cosmic balance from all tough draws he's had at this tournament

TBF every other player besides the BIG3 is a "mug" on these boards

 

[NoleFam]

50% of it or more prolly since Fed turned 30.

Dude, Fed had 6 years on Djokovic. Lol. You can't come up with flimsy excuses everytime. Just accept that Djokovic has mastered this thing called tennis.

 

[NoleFam]

That was 2013. One of the worst years for mental stability that Djokoivc has shown since 2011.

Well that makes total sense when you think about it. That match, the RG match and the Canada match could all basically qualify as chokes topped off by a mental crash in the USO final. So many matches that Djokovic wishes to not relive again.

 

[Hitman]

Well that makes total sense when you think about it. That match, the RG match and the Canada match could all basically qualify as chokes topped off by a mental crash in the USO final. So many matches that Djokovic wishes to not relive again.

He also lost it completely at Madrid 2013 against Dimitrov, when the crowd got to him. That year he simply wasn't mentally reliable, and I think that was a primary factor into bringing a guy like Becker into the mix. To help him get his mind focused more. He just wasn't a sure thing in 2013 so many times.

 

[swordtennis]

50% of it or more prolly since Fed turned 30.

One stat fed will never ever have is mental strength.
Great at bullying limited and or young opposition.
He was always a mentally frail player against strong opposition. Great front runner.
Also his bh was always going to be a liability against oppoenents strong off both wings.
Hard to get out of a religious cult.

 

[junior74]

Winter is so coming...

The Lord of Light is our only hope; please resurrect that old Swiss fart

 

[PeoplesChamp]

Dude, Fed had 6 years on Djokovic. Lol. You can't come up with flimsy excuses everytime. Just accept that Djokovic has mastered this thing called tennis.

Just did math.

53% top 5 wins after Fed turned 31.5 years old.
59% top 10 wins after Fed turned 31.5 years old.

A grand total of 3 months #1 before Fed turned 30 years old.

 

[StrongRule]

When did I say anything about first round? I'm saying you can't call Youzhny, Gasquet, and Berrettini tough SF opponents.


Djokovic should be getting way more easy USO draws, if anything, just as a way to restore some cosmic balance from all tough draws he's had at this tournament

Lol, when exactly did he have tough draws? If he judge by your opinion (though it is obvious you are writing this just as a Nadal hater, I'm 100% sure you think he never won a tournament with a tough draw in his career) then Djokovic never had any tough USO draws since 2011. His path to the semifinals in 2013 was easier than Nadal's, and the semifinal was tougher because he has matchup issues with Wawrinka. Nadal would have probably won against this Wawrinka in straight sets.

 

[Hitman]

Winter is so coming...

The Lord of Light is our only hope; please resurrect that old Swiss fart

The longest summer is about to begin....

 

[PeoplesChamp]

One stat fed will never ever have is mental strength.
Great at bullying limited and or young opposition.
He was always a mentally frail player against strong opposition. Great front runner.
Also his bh was always going to be a liability against oppoenents strong off both wings.
Hard to get out of a religious cult.

Mentally frail with 20 slams

 

[Djokovic2011]

Winter is so coming...

The Lord of Light is our only hope; please resurrect that old Swiss fart

Which one?

 

[NoleFam]

He also lost it completely at Madrid 2013 against Dimitrov, when the crowd got to him. That year he simply wasn't mentally reliable, and I think that was a primary factor into bringing a guy like Becker into the mix. To help him get his mind focused more. He just wasn't a sure thing in 2013 so many times.

Oh yea I forgot about that one which was another mental flop although this one was understandable. That crowd was completely out of line. Yea Becker really righted the ship and helped him get himself together. I don't know what happened between 2011 and 2013 but he really was not clutch in 2013 compared to 2011. I think the two losses in the clay season caused him to doubt himself and the RG loss destroyed him mentally.

 

[swordtennis]

Mentally frail with 20 slams

40-15

 

[swordtennis]

USO 2015. Smokes Stan like a bully.
Final gets smacked.
Seems Djokovic needs to layeth the smack down a few more times on feds jabroni ass.

 

[StrongRule]

Well that makes total sense when you think about it. That match, the RG match and the Canada match could all basically qualify as chokes topped off by a mental crash in the USO final. So many matches that Djokovic wishes to not relive again.

LOL, Nadal lost the second set after being up a break, lost the fourth set after leading with a break twice, including serving for the match and being 2 points away from winning, and yet Djokovic is somehow the one who choked???

I would also like to know how in Montreal it was a choke when Djokovic never even had the lead in the last set.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

USO 2015. Smokes Stan like a bully.
Final gets smacked.
Seems Djokovic needs to layeth the smack down a few more times on feds jabroni ass.

Took Djokovic until Fed was what 33 or 34 to get h2h advantage?

Finger wagging after beating 40 year old Meniscuserer

Salt runneth over.

 

[NoleFam]

Just did math.

53% top 5 wins after Fed turned 31.5 years old.
59% top 10 wins after Fed turned 31.5 years old.

A grand total of 3 months #1 before Fed turned 30 years old.

What does this have to do with the stat though? I could say the majority of Federer's happened before Djokovic reached his peak but what would it matter? Federer is not the only top 5 or top 10 player and vice versa, and has a massive amount more wins than Djokovic. Djokovic just reigned over the top of the field more in a more concentrated amount of time.

 

[Hitman]

Oh yea I forgot about that one which was another mental flop although this one was understandable. That crowd was completely out of line. Yea Becker really righted the ship and helped him get himself together. I don't know what happened between 2011 and 2013 but he really was not clutch in 2013 compared to 2011. I think the two losses in the clay season caused him to doubt himself and the RG loss destroyed him mentally.

Losing to Del Potro at IW and then Haas at Miami didn't help matters either. 2013 was the only year between 2011 and 2016 that he failed so miserably at the Sunshine double, winning them both back to back in 2011, 2014, 2015 and 2016, plus reaching semis of IW and winning Miami in 2012. Novak simply wasn't reliable at that point, that began to bleed into the clay season, with those losses building up. The mental belief in him just wasn't there so many times.

 

[swordtennis]

LOL, Nadal lost the second set after being up a break, lost the fourth set after leading with a break twice, including serving for the match and being 2 points away from winning, and yet Djokovic is somehow the one who choked???

GTFO! Out you fedal frauds use the "choke" all the time. We are using it now. Delete your account and log off!

 

[swordtennis]

Every loss for djokovic was a choke! Deal with it haters.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

When did I say anything about first round? I'm saying you can't call Youzhny, Gasquet, and Berrettini tough SF opponents.


Djokovic should be getting way more easy USO draws, if anything, just as a way to restore some cosmic balance from all tough draws he's had at this tournament

2015, 2016, 2018.

 

[Hitman]

Took Djokovic until Fed was what 33 or 34 to get h2h advantage?

The issue though is Federer's mental capitulation from basically Wimbledon 2015 onward. He lost matches that he should not have in the manner that he did, and that is a sign of mental frailty that has hurt him time and time again.

 

[swordtennis]

2015, 2016, 2018.

GTFO troll. TROLL harder.

 

[NoleFam]

LOL, Nadal lost the second set after being up a break, lost the fourth set after leading with a break twice, including serving for the match and being 2 points away from winning, and yet Djokovic is somehow the one who choked???

I would also like to know how in Montreal it was a choke when Djokovic never even had the lead in the last set.

Yes. Nadal is not the only person who can choke. Regardless if Nadal was in control and lost his edge does not change the fact that Djokovic was up 4-2 in the 5th and and should have been 5-3 if he did not shoot himself in the foot.

I said could qualify not does qualify. It was basically another close match with Nadal that year that he lost once again.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

The issue though is Federer's mental capitulation from basically Wimbledon 2015 onward. He lost matches that he should not have in the manner that he did, and that is a sign of mental frailty that has hurt him time and time again.

I agree that it's tough when you're an old man and see no one in sight that can stop Djokovic but yourself on a really good day. That has to be nerve racking.