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NeutralFan

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
First of all Congratulations to Teeth fans , I don't wanna crash their party but I am here to tell them how he's not the lone horse in the race , there's a finer horse in the race ready to catch up with him and it's only a matter of time. Yeah we are talking about the Sinner , even with 4 slams Carlos never showed the kind of dominance that Sinner showed ( Sinner was almost unbeaten for months and drubbing everyone in his route ) he got unlucky with Madrid injury and that derailed his FO campaign. Imagine what Sinner can do to Carlos at his favourite surface should they meet when it took Carlos 5 sets to beat Sinner at FO( his worst slam) it's only a matter of time Sinner work out his injury problem . If not for his unfortunate injuries today we would have been talking about him heading towards CYGE in NY. He will be back, he's there to dominate and he will like he did after start of season.
 
Alcaraz just did the RG/Wimbledon double dude, at 21. Yet you're disparaging him and talking about Sinner. Unless Sinner wins the USO, you have nothing to come at him with. Alcaraz may have a 3 Slam year. He is the best player in the world right now. Sinner has to prove otherwise.
 
NoleFam said:
Alcaraz just did the RG/Wimbledon double dude, at 21. Yet you're disparaging him and talking about Sinner. Unless Sinner wins the USO, you have nothing to come at him with. Alcaraz may have a 3 Slam year. He is the best player in the world right now. Sinner has to prove otherwise.
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That doesn't debunk whatever I said .
 
NeutralFan said:
First of all Congratulations to Teeth fans , I don't wanna crash their party but I am here to tell them how he's not the lone horse in the race , there's a finer horse in the race ready to catch up with him and it's only a matter of time. Yeah we are talking about the Sinner , even with 4 slams Carlos never showed the kind of dominance that Sinner showed ( Sinner was almost unbeaten for months and drubbing everyone in his route ) he got unlucky with Madrid injury and that derailed his FO campaign. Imagine what Sinner can do to Carlos at his favourite surface should they meet when it took Carlos 5 sets to beat Sinner at FO( his worst slam) it's only a matter of time Sinner work out his injury problem . If not for his unfortunate injuries today we would have been talking about him heading towards CYGE in NY. He will be back, he's there to dominate and he will like he did after start of season.
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Stop it!
 
I wonder with what slam difference the trolling act of putting sinner in the same level as Alcaraz Will start to feel awkward
 
NeutralFan said:
You were on a Sinner hype train and now changed your opinion because he suffered two loses due to injuries? Tell us who is having a better season ( non slam wise) Did Carlos have the same dominance that Sinner exhibited for 6 months?
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He was doing great but Carlos channel double has put that in the shade. Sinner has to comeback stronger to reignite any debate.

The gap is to big at this point.
 
Sinner is a very excellent and impressive player. The things you can confidently categorise and objectively list and measure, he scores extremely highly in.

But that isn't the whole equation. Sinner is just a man, whereas Raz is a sorcerer and does things not measured by your typical metrics.

Would you fancy your own chances against a legitimate wizard? I doubt it.
 
NeutralFan said:
First of all Congratulations to Teeth fans , I don't wanna crash their party but I am here to tell them how he's not the lone horse in the race , there's a finer horse in the race ready to catch up with him and it's only a matter of time. Yeah we are talking about the Sinner , even with 4 slams Carlos never showed the kind of dominance that Sinner showed ( Sinner was almost unbeaten for months and drubbing everyone in his route ) he got unlucky with Madrid injury and that derailed his FO campaign. Imagine what Sinner can do to Carlos at his favourite surface should they meet when it took Carlos 5 sets to beat Sinner at FO( his worst slam) it's only a matter of time Sinner work out his injury problem . If not for his unfortunate injuries today we would have been talking about him heading towards CYGE in NY. He will be back, he's there to dominate and he will like he did after start of season.
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Were you watching the match today. He dominated Novak in every aspect of the game. And he did it with flair. I much prefer Carlitos style of play to Sinner’s 1 dimensional ball bashing.
 
Tano said:
Anyway, I hope Sinner improves his physical condition to compete in Major tournaments.
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I Hope too, as that Will make the tennis level better for the spectators, but man, Talk about karma, i never Saw as much tennis stupidity as in the last 6 months here hyping sinner and calling alcaraz all types of names
 
TheSlicer said:
I wonder with what slam difference the trolling act of putting sinner in the same level as Alcaraz Will start to feel awkward
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Okay tell us where I am wrong? When did Carlos exhibited dominance for 6 months like Sinner did? Didn't Sinner get injured? and Did Carlos face the hottest man on grass go win his Wimbledon?no!! He can't avoid Sinner on hard and grass all the time.
 
Quaichang said:
Were you watching the match today. He dominated Novak in every aspect of the game. And he did it with flair. I much prefer Carlitos style of play to Sinner’s 1 dimensional ball bashing.
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Sinner also dominated 2024 Novak so what's the point? Imo Sinner would have beaten Novak today as well. Let's wait for the Sinneraz blockbuster to decide . They met on clay but that was Sinner's worst surface yet he had Carlos on ropes ,no? Was 2-1 and could have beaten him .
 
NeutralFan said:
Okay tell us where I am wrong? When did Carlos exhibited dominance for 6 months like Sinner did? Didn't Sinner get injured? and Did Carlos face the hottest man on grass go win his Wimbledon?no!! He can't avoid Sinner on hard and grass all the time.
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Sinner is more consistent and reliable in bringing a day-to-day very high threshold/baseline of play. He's always a tough nut to crack. Is being impressively solid — a bit like Djokovic but with less athleticism and from what we can tell so far not nearly the mental fortitude — enough to dominate the tour for years on end?
 
NeutralFan said:
Okay tell us where I am wrong? When did Carlos exhibited dominance for 6 months like Sinner did? Didn't Sinner get injured? and Did Carlos face the hottest man on grass go win his Wimbledon?no!! He can't avoid Sinner on hard and grass all the time.
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Dominance means winning titles, he barely won a slam and a másters, oh yeah that 500 beating the likes of monfils and and retiring raonic, if this is the most dominant hes gonna get being almost 23, then he is couple of notches behind Alcaraz, consistency is something you get with time, imagine when Carlos gets it, but let me tell you something, i highly doubt sinner ever plays close to the level Alcaraz has shown this wimbledon in many moments, its just not possible for him
 
NeutralFan said:
First of all Congratulations to Teeth fans , I don't wanna crash their party but I am here to tell them how he's not the lone horse in the race , there's a finer horse in the race ready to catch up with him and it's only a matter of time. Yeah we are talking about the Sinner , even with 4 slams Carlos never showed the kind of dominance that Sinner showed ( Sinner was almost unbeaten for months and drubbing everyone in his route ) he got unlucky with Madrid injury and that derailed his FO campaign. Imagine what Sinner can do to Carlos at his favourite surface should they meet when it took Carlos 5 sets to beat Sinner at FO( his worst slam) it's only a matter of time Sinner work out his injury problem . If not for his unfortunate injuries today we would have been talking about him heading towards CYGE in NY. He will be back, he's there to dominate and he will like he did after start of season.
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U r joking..right
 
MeatTornado said:
The US Open just became a must-win for Sinner to even keep this a conversation.
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This could be a 3 slam year for Alcaraz, plus Novak will be hungry to win that slam and next AO, he will try his best..... Med and Zed also will be there to spring surprises....

Sinner has his plate full.
 
NeutralFan said:
Okay tell us where I am wrong? When did Carlos exhibited dominance for 6 months like Sinner did? Didn't Sinner get injured? and Did Carlos face the hottest man on grass go win his Wimbledon?no!! He can't avoid Sinner on hard and grass all the time.
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Sinner fans are such Copium addicts. Sinner is just on Carlos’ level. Not even close at this point.
 
-NN- said:
Sinner is more consistent and reliable in bringing a day-to-day very high threshold/baseline of play. He's always a tough nut to crack. Is being impressively solid — a bit like Djokovic but with less athleticism and from what we can tell so far not nearly the mental fortitude — enough to dominate the tour for years on end?
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Very fine comment unlike other haters who just brush aside Sinner. I'll like to add one more thing Sinner's firepower is more than Djokovic,albeit his consistency is not as much and he's working on his fitness. Tell me don't you think Sinner could have beaten Carlos at his worst slam? Think what he's capable of doing against Carlos on HC and grass? Carlos fans can laugh all they will want but it's a very serious question.
 
TheSlicer said:
To me his must win was wimbledon, now he is already out of the conversation until he prooves otherwise again
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Gonna give the benefit of the doubt to playing out the season according to tennis season structure and see the lay of the land after 4 Slams have been played. Sinner still leads the ranking race, no?
 
-NN- said:
Gonna give the benefit of the doubt to playing out the season according to tennis season structure and see the lay of the land after 4 Slams have been played. Sinner still leads the ranking race, no?
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I just wish people would have given the benefit of the doubt to Carlos when he Lost in Australia, things like "hes so short, he Will get overpowered, the tour has figured him out, he is just another Clay court player" were said too much, also how sinner was gonna win wimbledon without a doubt
 
-NN- said:
Sinner is more consistent and reliable in bringing a day-to-day very high threshold/baseline of play. He's always a tough nut to crack. Is being impressively solid — a bit like Djokovic but with less athleticism and from what we can tell so far not nearly the mental fortitude — enough to dominate the tour for years on end?
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Sinner is just another Berdych benefitting from this era. so far.
 
TheSlicer said:
I just wish people would have given the benefit of the doubt to Carlos when he Lost in Australia, things like "hes so short, he Will get overpowered, the tour has figured him out, he is just another Clay court player" were said too much, also how sinner was gonna win wimbledon without a doubt
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People didn't give benefit of doubt to him because he lost to Med then Z and was having a horrible patch post Wimbledon and won just IW till next RG and then he won RG and Wimbledon thanks to Sinner's invincible run being disrupted by two injures , I see it as star aligning perfectly thing. I'll accept his dominance if he wins Canada + USO .
 
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abmk said:
Sinner is just another Berdych benefitting from this era. so far.
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Son ,Anyone who thinks both are alike knows absolutely nothing about Tennis. Berdman was a flat hitter while Sinner hits with more rpm and has better movement, plays more percentage tennis than him.
 
NeutralFan said:
Very fine comment unlike other haters who just brush aside Sinner. I'll like to add one more thing Sinner's firepower is more than Djokovic,albeit his consistency is not as much and he's working on his fitness. Tell me don't you think Sinner could have beaten Carlos on his worst slam? Think what he's capable of doing against Carlos on HC and grass? Carlos fans can laugh all they will want but it's a very serious question.
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The accurate brutality of his aggression when he's on song does leave a huge impression. It's just been disconcerting to see a bit of a tendency for him to fall off after dominating starts and phases, which is partly about tactical adaptation and partly about his fitness. We can see that Alcaraz is supremely fit. If Sinner can address both tactics (willingness to change it up) and fitness then he should be long-time rival of Alcaraz and be trading numerous Slams with him. He has had physical issues and it's coincided with Alcaraz winning b2b Slams so I might be slightly overselling those issues, but Sinner's confidence/execution does seem a bit flaky at times... strong but susceptible to sudden collapse. Alcaraz by contrast seems to get stronger the longer matches go on and has a deciding 5th set record now which can't be ignored.

It's possible that Sinner will be more consistent in the Slams than Alcaraz, but I'm doubtful he'll cross the line first as often. Quite confident he'll win a bunch of Slams though - but are we talking 5-9 of them (which would be amazing) or Big Three levels? Because I really don't see the latter.
 
NeutralFan said:
People didn't give benefit of doubt to him because he lost to Med then Z and was having a horrible patch post Wimbledon and won just IW till next RG and then he won RG and Wimbledon thanks to Sinner's inconclusive run being disrupted by two injures , I see it as star aligning perfectly thing. I'll accept his dominance if he wins Canada + USO .
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Lol, i wonder if you actually have watched him play, i know youre mostly trolling but i just dont believe you have watched both players play and dont think Carlos level is out of reach for sinner.
 
NeutralFan said:
Very fine comment unlike other haters who just brush aside Sinner. I'll like to add one more thing Sinner's firepower is more than Djokovic,albeit his consistency is not as much and he's working on his fitness. Tell me don't you think Sinner could have beaten Carlos at his worst slam? Think what he's capable of doing against Carlos on HC and grass? Carlos fans can laugh all they will want but it's a very serious question.
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Keep going on about hypotheticals when in reality Carlos is 2-0 against Sinner this year and has won 2 slams to Sinner’s 1, equal on masters1000 wins. I really don’t know why is Sinner v Alcaraz even a debate currently when Alcaraz has beaten Sinner to win 2 of his 4 GS and beaten Djokovic in the final in his other 2 slams. At this point Sinner is the Hewitt to Carlos’s Federer. Not that Sinner is at Hewitt’s level or Carlos on Fed’s level in an absolute sense but the relative levels are equal.
 
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