interesting stuff, and definitely makes the case for MSV Swift as a cross especially if you are looking for a bit more comfortUnfortunately, RP doesn't have any Tru Pro (Tier One) string data, nor do they have Wasabi-X (they have plenty of other Toroline poly's, but not Was-X, for whatever reason). Short of that, here's both gauges of Sync and both gauges of Swift White (click to enlarge):
Those numbers tend to corroborate with my experience, having playing Sync and Swift White in both gauges now. Sync is a little bit more slick, so snapback-based-spin is a bit better; Swift is a hair softer, more comfortable, pockets deeper and dwells longer per unit tension, also a bit more physically stable, and ever-so-slightly more powerful.
Restring Sync Thread
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joaovitorss
Rookie
The amount of strings they launch every week is unbelievable
Interesting. I like that it's white in color. Wonder if it will be rather weighty like regular O-Toro, and interested to see where it lands on the "O-Toro Stiffness Scale"... Green -> Spin -> Orange / White -> Tour
Reptile Mellow
New User
First time trying Sync as crosses (50lbs) with Mach 10 as mains (53lbs). Strung on 18th May. Same issue. Shredded after playing for about 2 weeks (early June) and snapped in less than 1 month (on 12th June). Never had a string snap on me so quickly before...Following up on @TropicalFruit's post regarding Sync durability. This is only my third string job with it (as a cross only so far), in this case for Toalson Asterista Armored 1.30 mains (an 8-sided syn-gut), I got the following shredding/delamination occurring just outside of center on the 9th cross up from the bottom (on a 2017 Revo CZ 98D) after only 1 hour or so on the bed (click to enlarge):
As you can see, the string peeled a bit like string cheese. The string bed is still playing fine enough, but just a bit disconcerting, considering I was only 1 hour in, and the mains, by far the softer of the two, shouldn't really be imparting much wear. Or at least one wouldn't think so...
Anyone else see anything like this happening with Sync?
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smithie
Professional
That looks like a defect for sure with the amount of crosses which are sheering :/ get in contact with ReString.
On another note, how’d Mach-10/Sync play?
Reptile Mellow
New User
Response from Restring shared by my stringer:-
"Thank you very much for sharing the feedback about the fraying of the string. We really appreciate that you raised this to us - we're already investigating this with the factory as we take these matters of quality control very seriously. Ahead of any further feedback from our factory, please allow me to share some more information about the construction of the string as this will help give a little more context. The fraying of both Zero and Sync can be experienced to a certain degree after playing with the string for a considerable amount of time (longer playability than what you'd experience with other comparable strings) although this should definitely not be something you should be experiencing within any short time frame.
With regards to fraying itself, although we don't see this in most cases, in certain rare cases of extended use it can happen with Sync and Zero because of the way the string's ultra slippery coating has been designed. For both of these strings, the snapback aiding solution is integrated throughout the product rather than solely on the outside 'coating'. As the string decays with use, the string can begin to fray but will remain very slick. Most typical polys have the coating only on the outside, this means that the string will play well for a few hours but then start to notch and "die" out. The coating will wear off and you'll just be left with a less responsive inner core which will not snapback or provide the same playability as you would expect from a fresh string. With Zero and Sync, the benefit is that the string is slick not just on the outside of the surface but also throughout the solution of the string. As the outer layers decay, the string still snaps back and retains its responsiveness. This is what gives the string that unique 'fresh feeling' that will keep it snapping back for many hours on court. That being said, as the string naturally starts to thin with extended use, you can experience a degree of fraying as a bi product of the string's design. This however does not impact the playability of the string but just indicates that the end of the string is near (and again this should only happen after extended use - much longer than a typical lifespan of a comparable poly)."
Hmm, it was also my first time trying Mach-10 with this setup. With M10 (1.25) x Sync (1.25), my biggest issue was that I wasn't getting enough "bite" on the ball to control my spin? Before this, I was using Confidential full bed and I really liked the biting feel from it - I got a better sense of how much wrist-twist I should put behind every shot and when to let go off the ball from my string bed - resulting in higher precision / accuracy directionally. Mach-10 felt a bit erratic and out of control for me at times, if it makes sense?
Was going to try Confidential mains x Sync crosses or Lynx Tour mains x Sync crosses next. But after the response above, I'm having second thoughts on my crosses choice.
smithie
Professional
Its a slightly odd response from ReString tbh, seems more of a sales pitch of their USP
I'm going to try Mach-10 1.25 and Sync 1.20, so I hope that gauge drop will help as it doesn't sound promising looking at your experience.
Reptile Mellow
New User
I think going with Sync 1.20mm for crosses may be a good idea. Let me know how your setup performs!
To come to think of it, I saw a comment in @ZeroLove's Sync Review mentioning that a 1.25mm Sync actually measured 1.30mm.
I wonder if the shredding/fraying could be due to the thicker crosses (assuming 1.30mm is accurate) compared to the 1.25mm mains. Maybe the thicker crosses create extra friction on the mains, causing the shredding/fraying?
happyandbob
Legend
Sync is back in stock right now
ZeroLove
New User
Hey! Yeah, not sure if that is what it is. That's a valid theory but I've seen the same fraying happen on zero/zero string setups. It's rare and I haven't seen it in months. Like maybe almost a year, personally. I wonder why it did happen and I wonder why it hasn't, for me.
happyandbob
Legend
How did you order them?
I flew here to buy these. A few days before my flight, I stumbled upon this post, and thought "why wouldn't I do a vacation as well while I am there".
Can't wait to fly back home and do a side by side comparo with the sync!
Wow. That's some TTW String sub-forum dedication right there!
Sync vs M-1 comparo #1
They are.... in sync. More so than I expected.
M-1 has a slightly lighter color, but it could just be a batch variation. Alu power in pic #3 for comparison.
Both M-1 and sync have a nice slick feel on finger. I can't tell any difference. Alu power does feel different. Maybe a bit more slimy than the other two.
They are going into my racquets in a week or two.
They are.... in sync. More so than I expected.
M-1 has a slightly lighter color, but it could just be a batch variation. Alu power in pic #3 for comparison.
Both M-1 and sync have a nice slick feel on finger. I can't tell any difference. Alu power does feel different. Maybe a bit more slimy than the other two.
They are going into my racquets in a week or two.
darthrafa
Hall of Fame
i have a pack of sync and a pack of zero respectively for my PA98 and APD 2013
PA more control-oriented while APD2013 good at spin
not sure whether two packs are sufficient to do the hybrid for two racquets
if I rarely hit flat with both racquests, shall i put zero on PA98 and sync on APD 2013 to strike a balance
or zero for APD2013 to get as many spin as possible and put sync on PA98 with accurate placement of balls despite less spin?
thanks for advice in advance
PA more control-oriented while APD2013 good at spin
not sure whether two packs are sufficient to do the hybrid for two racquets
if I rarely hit flat with both racquests, shall i put zero on PA98 and sync on APD 2013 to strike a balance
or zero for APD2013 to get as many spin as possible and put sync on PA98 with accurate placement of balls despite less spin?
thanks for advice in advance
thenewbig3
Hall of Fame
FrankyRelax
Professional
Yes normal. It's very slight and goes away after stringing
VanDerVaart23
Semi-Pro
Freaking LEGEND
thenewbig3
Hall of Fame
Does M-1 have the same slightly lumpy surface as Sync felt in hand and visible in light?
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Not exactly sure what you mean by lumpy surface. Both are 'slick', but a slightly different kind of slick compared to other round strings that I have right now -- alu power and kirschbaums.
What I can say is that Sync and M-1 feel pretty much the same in hand & on sight.
thenewbig3
Hall of Fame
Sync is the only round poly string I have instantly noticed that has a very slightly lumpy texture kinda how Multifilaments feel... Its hard to photograph and maybe hard to notice but once you see it there is no unseeing it. I tried taking a picture but its still so subtle you may not see it
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happyandbob
Legend
thenewbig3
Hall of Fame
Maybe its the excess snap-back when combined with traditional string as a main? What are you using as a main? I have tried with Lynx Tour and Confidential as mains with Sync as a cross and the experience is the same (as below)
I get this weird sensation where I feel like I suddenly get more power than I put it especially when I am aggressively speeding up tempo. If I keep tempo (is the correct word shot matching?) and constant speed its off the charts good but I struggle with aggressive changes. With old classic strings as crosses (Cyberflash, Tour Bite Round, RS Lyon, KB Evolution) I can change tempo/pace/spin without much issue as the setups seem to give me "more room" to make small error (other than when I make large obvious errors) but my first attempts with Sync have been a little crazy. Or maybe I just suck?
(probably)
happyandbob
Legend
It could be the extra snapback but I’m playing 1.35 gut @ 60 prestretch x 1.25 sync @ 55 in an Ezone 100 2020.Maybe its the excess snap-back when combined with traditional string as a main? What are you using as a main? I have tried with Lynx Tour and Confidential as mains with Sync as a cross and the experience is the same (as below)
I get this weird sensation where I feel like I suddenly get more power than I put it especially when I am aggressively speeding up tempo. If I keep tempo (is the correct word shot matching?) and constant speed its off the charts good but I struggle with aggressive changes. With old classic strings as crosses (Cyberflash, Tour Bite Round, RS Lyon, KB Evolution) I can change tempo/pace/spin without much issue as the setups seem to give me "more room" to make small error (other than when I make large obvious errors) but my first attempts with Sync have been a little crazy. Or maybe I just suck?
My regular setup is Rexxxer crosses and I get tons of control and spin. I tried Sync 1,20 in a
couple of racquets in the spring, but once the temp got over 90F balls were flying long.
It feels like a trampoline in hot weather, even after moving up to 1.25 Tons of spin and great pocketing but too much power.
I’m going to up the tension to 60x57 and try 60x55 with 10% prestretch to see how those work
thenewbig3
Hall of Fame
Do compare/comment on depth control between the two cross strings - assuming you will have the same main in both?
hdjs94
Semi-Pro
will do. thats correct using the same mains (tour bite 17) at the same tensions.
Oh I see. But I am not seeing this in my Sync or M-1. I got the Sync after the recent restock so maybe it's from a newer batch.Sync is the only round poly string I have instantly noticed that has a very slightly lumpy texture kinda how Multifilaments feel... Its hard to photograph and maybe hard to notice but once you see it there is no unseeing it. I tried taking a picture but its still so subtle you may not see it
hdjs94
Semi-Pro
Got more hits in to compare the two as a cross string. In all honesty, it's a bit hard to really pinpoint a distinct difference between the two. Especially with it only being a cross string in a hybrid setup. I will say that sync is ever so slightly more muted and just a tad bit softer feeling than TBR, but honestly it's very very close. Most noticeable is indeed the slickness of sync which allows for more snapback of the mains. Theoretically the increased snapback with the sync should provide a little more spin and power, but in realtime play and rallying, it's not that noticeable.
A good experiment nonetheless and I'd honestly be fine with playing with either as my cross in my hybrid setup. A full bed sync vs full bed TBR would honestly be more helpful in comparing the two strings.
happyandbob
Legend
I think there is something to that. The packs I bought when I was testing Sync seemed to have some surface roughness as @thenewbig3 noted, but the reel I just got seems to be uniform and slick. Feels the same after stringing, and seems to play the same.
In what context? And/or compared to what? We need more info here.
meowmix808
New User
I hate all these social media influencer strings, BUT, sync has been amazing on my crosses.
The snapback is great for a long time, but I dont know why. Its not a super greased string like most strings. I've had a few sharp strings in the mains that made it get cut in and stuck in place, but it still took quite a while. I just hit with a blue chip kid and he snaps his alu rough in 40 minutes. After two hitting sessions with him I still had snap back and control. This string is not crisp or super dead imo. The feeling is pretty whatever in the middle-ish but that might still feel dead to you since I usually played with muted strings. Anything slightly middling to me might feel dead to you.
You can tell how slick this string is while stringing it up, when I pull all the excess while weaving it glides across the mains.
I've used it with PTstrike, PTdrive, Alu, M8, Sniper, Wasabi, Super Toro, Mach 10, 4s. Funny thing is, the worst snapback I got was PTstrike (??? not sure why, its a super slick circle string, some leftover 1.20 grey strike I had), and Weiss the yellow string they have, which is one of the sharpest 4 sided strings I've ever felt.
happyandbob
Legend
Dang, I wish I didn't like Restring Sync so much in the crosses. This is after 9 hours of hitting with VS 1.35 in the mains and Sync 1.25 in the crosses. Great snapback but still saws through gut like crazy.
Dang, I wish I didn't like Restring Sync so much in the crosses. This is after 9 hours of hitting with VS 1.35 in the mains and Sync 1.25 in the crosses. Great snapback but still saws through gut like crazy.
Check this
happyandbob
Legend
which brand of string savers are those?
wren
New User
ReString's ReString Week (25%-off-on-all-orders sales week) is around the corner from September 4-7. In light of Sync's recently poor QC'd batch releases and its fraying durability issues, does anyone have any experience with how the durability is holding up now?
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darthrafa
Hall of Fame
the durability is very poor when i use sync as the cross while volkl's cyclone as main
the sync+cyclone already has quite a few wear and tear after 3-hour hitting
i have not broken any string in the past 10 years (though i admit that i mainly play full bed, instead of hybrid) and my strings never show similar condition even hitting longer than 30 hours (i rarely cut them unless trying sthing new)
the sync+cyclone already has quite a few wear and tear after 3-hour hitting
i have not broken any string in the past 10 years (though i admit that i mainly play full bed, instead of hybrid) and my strings never show similar condition even hitting longer than 30 hours (i rarely cut them unless trying sthing new)
julianokay
Rookie
Just took advantage of the sale and got a reel of 1.25 Sync. I had very good experiences when I bought it last, maybe 6 months ago.
Will report back on the durability of the reel when I get it and use some.
Will report back on the durability of the reel when I get it and use some.
julianokay
Rookie
After having strung about 6 or seven frames and used Sync full bed and as a cross for O Toro Tour & Pure Rush, I've found no evidence that the quality is lacking or worse than before. All the set-ups felt great, no fraying after about 8-10 hours of hitting. This is definitely my favorite cross string for now, and also plays wonderfully in a full bed.
In which racket? Specifically, the Otoro Tour hybrid?
