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WhoooooshI measure the snapback and spin by just drop and hitting forehands which is easy and reliably shows how the string is performing.
WhoooooshI measure the snapback and spin by just drop and hitting forehands which is easy and reliably shows how the string is performing.
Just reporting what I experience, it confuses me too. Comparing similar weather and night versus day is how... like test how does it perform in 95 degrees high uv index sunny, how does it perform in mid eighties degree night etc. String attributes change depending on conditions.But if there is no good ball pocketing at night, or no good pocketing in the day, how is any test a reliable test? Just confused by your weather/time of day analysis.
So pocketing is better at night but spin and snapback are better during the day?Just reporting what I experience, it confuses me too. Comparing similar weather and night versus day is how... like test how does it perform in 95 degrees high uv index sunny, how does it perform in mid eighties degree night etc. String attributes change depending on conditions.
I notice restring zero is a unique string that generally has a very pleasant ball pocketing at night that I dont experience with other strings for example. And it never has that sensation in sunny daytime weather.
Spin and snapback I have no idea what causes it to be so good when its great, but it was always in sunny daytime not night
No I said restring zero is unique. Generally strings are much more stiff/firm and dead at night and less spin. Restring zero is the only string I've ever experienced such a pleasant ball contact feeling at nightSo pocketing is better at night but spin and snapback are better during the day?
So this is a nighttime string?No I said restring zero is unique. Generally strings are much more stiff/firm and dead at night and less spin. Restring zero is the only string I've ever experienced such a pleasant ball contact feeling at night
No I said restring zero is unique. Generally strings are much more stiff/firm and dead at night and less spin. Restring zero is the only string I've ever experienced such a pleasant ball contact feeling at night
has a very pleasant ball pocketing at night
I'm just trying to recap and understand what you said. Now you're saying you didn't say what you said?Spin and snapback I have no idea what causes it to be so good when its great, but it was always in sunny daytime not night
LolSo this is a nighttime string?
Everything there aligns perfectly whats wrong?I'm just trying to recap and understand what you said. Now you're saying you didn't say what you said?
I don't know if you're being obtuse on purpose. I'll take that as confirmation of my earlier question. Guess you should play at night for feel and daytime for a spin game.Everything there aligns perfectly whats wrong?
I thought you said something conflicted in those 3 quotes, what did? 2nd quote says has a very pleasant ball pocketing at night which is exactly what the first one says too. 3rd quote says spin and snapback was always best in the day, just like 1st quote says less spin at night.I don't know if you're being obtuse on purpose. I'll take that as confirmation of my earlier question. Guess you should play at night for feel and daytime for a spin game.
The first quote is the one I'm responding to, because that's how you responded to my prior question. The latter two were to show you that you are incorrect when you said "no" to that initial question. It doesn't matter. I'm glad you like the string.I thought you said something conflicted in those 3 quotes, what did? 2nd quote says has a very pleasant ball pocketing at night which is exactly what the first one says too. 3rd quote says spin and snapback was always best in the day, just like 1st quote says less spin at night.
So where does this not all align perfectly?
I said no strings generally arent better pocketing at night restring zero is the only thing that had this weird effectThe first quote is the one I'm responding to, because that's how you responded to my prior question. The latter two were to show you that you are incorrect when you said "no" to that initial question. It doesn't matter. I'm glad you like the string.
tan - what do you consider as your top5 poly strings?This string is weird because you get a complete different feedback on the stiffness. Some people say it’s stiff and some say it’s not. I notice that people who string it high like 50+ are more likely saying it’s stiff and jarring, while a different group of players who strung it below let’s say 48 lbs could say otherwise.
I tried it on 4 rackets so far, Tfight 315, Blade 98, Shift 99, and Pro Stock Blade 98. All at around 46-48 lbs. None of them gave me any discomfort. Is it soft? I wouldn’t describe it as a soft string. It’s firm and inelastic, but it’s not stiff for me. Confidential and tour bite are way stiffer imo. Probably the dampened feel helps on that matter. I do think it feels pretty much the same as hyper G. It just has better spin and I think more controllable power.
What I don’t like is the dampened feel (I like more crispiness) and I think it lacks penetration on through the court shot. But I agree with most people here that snapback and spin are insane. It also increase launch angle on all rackets I try. But I think it works best with a bit thicker beam opener string pattern more than thinner beam tighter pattern for some reason.
I may not have tried as many strings as other people do tho. Here's what I like.tan - what do you consider as your top5 poly strings?
I hybrid the 1.23 Zero in the mains with Lynx Tour or another stiff poly in the crosses. Interestingly, the Lynx Tour as a cross wears down at pretty close to the same rate as the Zero notching, and I'll break one or the other after around 12 hours or so of playing time. Other strings like Kirschbaum max power don't wear down like Lynx Tour does, so I'll always break the Zero mains with those hybrids.Back to Lynx Tour. Zero definitely has more spin but I hate the feel/sound and the launch angle is whack.
I always feel like ultra-sharp, shaped strings like Zero and Diadem Solstice Power in a full bed have inconsistent launch characteristics. I still haven’t done a hybrid with zero. I have two more half-sets to play with, though, so I might try a hybrid with Lynx Tour. The other one is going in the mains with Wasabi X in the crosses.I hybrid the 1.23 Zero in the mains with Lynx Tour or another stiff poly in the crosses. Interestingly, the Lynx Tour as a cross wears down at pretty close to the same rate as the Zero notching, and I'll break one or the other after around 12 hours or so of playing time. Other strings like Kirschbaum max power don't wear down like Lynx Tour does, so I'll always break the Zero mains with those hybrids.
Anyway, in a Yonex VCore 95 2021, the hybrid Zero launch angle is fine for me, and the founders went to the same school in Tokyo that I went to, so that's as good a reason as any for me to switch to it. I'm happy to give them my money and only bother with trying out different crosses, depending on what happens to be on closeout. So long as the cross is stiffer than the Zero mains, they all feel pretty similar anyway.
If you don't like sharp, kind of plasticky feeling strings that can get really lively if you hit in just the right way, don't ever try Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable in a full bed! A deader cross tames the liveliness of Zero, which, for me, makes it more consistent and predictable. It does seem to retain its tension better than most polys, and that, combined with the founders' school makes it good enough for me.I always feel like ultra-sharp, shaped strings like Zero and Diadem Solstice Power in a full bed have inconsistent launch characteristics. I still haven’t done a hybrid with zero. I have two more half-sets to play with, though, so I might try a hybrid with Lynx Tour. The other one is going in the mains with Wasabi X in the crosses.
I think is too stiff.If you don't like sharp, kind of plasticky feeling strings that can get really lively if you hit in just the right way, don't ever try Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable in a full bed! A deader cross tames the liveliness of Zero, which, for me, makes it more consistent and predictable. It does seem to retain its tension better than most polys, and that, combined with the founders' school makes it good enough for me.
is this the best new poly out there for spin and power now ? Blow away all others like Toroline ?I think is too stiff.
for me its my fav poly, it is noticeable stiffer than toroline wasabi but its not stiff like tour bite / cyclone / rpm blast. I woud say as stiff as big banger original - slightly softer.is this the best new poly out there for spin and power now ? Blow away all others like Toroline ?
Would this also work well in Hybrid with multi string ??for me its my fav poly, it is noticeable stiffer than toroline wasabi but its not stiff like tour bite / cyclone / rpm blast. I woud say as stiff as big banger original - slightly softer.
i cannot say, ive readmany people use restring zero as a cross string - as its slides very well, but cannot say about a hybrid, ivenever used it s a cross string.Would this also work well in Hybrid with multi string ??
Mate, I appreciate what you are doing but your shots are way too weak and you are not hitting nowhere enough topspin to take advantage of poly strings. At your level I would focus on getting the most comfortable strings and try to improve your technique. I am not saying you shouldn't use poly but it is probably a waste of money and any nylon would do the same job.Non-sponsored/non-affilated review for ReString Zero 1.28:
Full-bed of multifilament won't make the cut. The mains stick out of place after 5-6 forehands and the next ones will fly unpredictably. I've tried multi-mains x soft-round poly crosses hybrid. That's something I can see more suitable for me. Especially, RS New York in the mains.Mate, I appreciate what you are doing but your shots are way too weak and you are not hitting nowhere enough topspin to take advantage of poly strings. At your level I would focus on getting the most comfortable strings and try to improve your technique. I am not saying you shouldn't use poly but it is probably a waste of money and any nylon would do the same job.
I get it, it feels so good to hit with poly over any nylon as you get so much control even if you don't hit hard. I also would suggest a poly like multi such as multifeel mains (or gut if you can afford) and a slick poly cross. Best of both worlds unless you start breaking them in a few hours.Full-bed of multifilament won't make the cut. The mains stick out of place after 5-6 forehands and the next ones will fly unpredictably. I've tried multi-mains x soft-round poly crosses hybrid. That's something I can see more suitable for me. Especially, RS New York in the mains.
At the end of the day, any feedback is feedback. I'll take a soft/low-tension poly x poly (hybrid) stringbed over full-bed mutlifilament every given day.
Most of the clips are recorded towards the last 15-20 minutes of each session, so they're not the most intense.
Players around my level can benefit of what I share. More advanced may pass.
I'm not sure I agree with this. I normally used Zero, but I strung a racket with Wasabi to compare, and it seemed noticeably harsher than Zero (with less spin). I think other Toroline strings (like Ether and Caviar) are softer.for me its my fav poly, it is noticeable stiffer than toroline wasabi but its not stiff like tour bite / cyclone / rpm blast. I woud say as stiff as big banger original - slightly softer.
interesting to hear, ive always never heard anyone else say that zero softer than wasabi , But thats how it felt to you. Did anyone else feels the same as chris ?I'm not sure I agree with this. I normally used Zero, but I strung a racket with Wasabi to compare, and it seemed noticeably harsher than Zero (with less spin). I think other Toroline strings (like Ether and Caviar) are softer.
I'm starting to think I might have just gotten a bad Wasabi string. Is that possible? I'll string it up again and test it out. I will confidently say, though, that Toroline Ether is a lot softer than Zero.interesting to hear, ive always never heard anyone else say that zero softer than wasabi , But thats how it felt to you. Did anyone else feels the same as chris ?
U might have received a bad set, I can't say, but all reviews I've read on here and on YouTube also confirmed it was softer, I used both strings before most people. As I saw tennis nerd review them separately around 2 /3 yes ago.I'm starting to think I might have just gotten a bad Wasabi string. Is that possible? I'll string it up again and test it out. I will confidently say, though, that Toroline Ether is a lot softer than Zero.
Is it round perhapsSomething new is coming…
Yea they've been working on round version of restring zeroIs it round perhaps
It’s more than just a round version of Zero, different target demo.Yea they've been working on round version of restring zero
Any other info?It’s more than just a round version of Zero, different target demo.
more info will come as im allowed to discuss... Feb 10th is the day that I can start making posts about first impressionsAny other info?
I've been demoing rackets for a while now and have narrowed it down to a Head Gravity Pro. The Demo I've been using has HyperG 16L in it @ 48 lbs. I generally really like it, but am looking for a bit more bite/spin on the ball. I've got Restring Zero in 1.23, and am debating going with the full set or doing a combo with Babolat VS Natural Gut. I rarely break strings, so think it may be worth the investment. My gut says I should do the gut in the crosses and RSZ in the mains, but I've seen many people say put the RSZ in the crosses. Is it worth doing a hybrid? or should I just do the full bed of RSZ at around 52lbs?more info will come as im allowed to discuss... Feb 10th is the day that I can start making posts about first impressions
IMO try RSZ in a full bed first. I personally really struggle to feel the differences between strings in the GPro. With the Auxetic version, I only tried RSZ 1.23mm and Adrenaline. Preferred Adrenaline for sure for the feel, but didn't notice a huge different in spin or power even though I strung RSZ at 50 and Adr at 57lbs. I had similar experiences with the 360+ version when Simon used it and we tested a bunch of strings together. We also noticed a much more exaggerated difference in my ET compared to his GPro. Like I couldn't tell the difference between Firestorm and Lynx Tour even though Lynx is shaped.I've been demoing rackets for a while now and have narrowed it down to a Head Gravity Pro. The Demo I've been using has HyperG 16L in it @ 48 lbs. I generally really like it, but am looking for a bit more bite/spin on the ball. I've got Restring Zero in 1.23, and am debating going with the full set or doing a combo with Babolat VS Natural Gut. I rarely break strings, so think it may be worth the investment. My gut says I should do the gut in the crosses and RSZ in the mains, but I've seen many people say put the RSZ in the crosses. Is it worth doing a hybrid? or should I just do the full bed of RSZ at around 52lbs?
Interesting - do you think I'd feel a difference going to something like the Weiscannon Ultra Cable? Everything I've seen seems like that's the most extreme of the spinny strings. Or do you really think it's mostly racket based? (I have seen your videos and understand where you stand on the GPro)IMO try RSZ in a full bed first. I personally really struggle to feel the differences between strings in the GPro. With the Auxetic version, I only tried RSZ 1.23mm and Adrenaline. Preferred Adrenaline for sure for the feel, but didn't notice a huge different in spin or power even though I strung RSZ at 50 and Adr at 57lbs. I had similar experiences with the 360+ version when Simon used it and we tested a bunch of strings together. We also noticed a much more exaggerated difference in my ET compared to his GPro. Like I couldn't tell the difference between Firestorm and Lynx Tour even though Lynx is shaped.
I think RSZ gets better spin than UC. I don't think UC is a good choice for the GPro anyway. The 18x20 is pretty tight and UC is so thick so it's hard to get good string movement. I think the key is going with thinner strings as long as durability isn't a concern. 1.23mm square strings are more like 1.30mm round strings because of the cross section. Not to mention your stringer will develop a deep hatred for you.Interesting - do you think I'd feel a difference going to something like the Weiscannon Ultra Cable? Everything I've seen seems like that's the most extreme of the spinny strings. Or do you really think it's mostly racket based? (I have seen your videos and understand where you stand on the GPro)
Delivered 2 sets of this new string today, 1.23 and 1.27 gauge. The brand is called ReString and this is their first string released called Zero.
6-sided polyester that promises great spin and durability. It's price is 17€ per set which sets the bar quite high for a newcomer to the industry.
I'll play with it this month and share my feedback.
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I have the Elevate Tour (Teal not new blue ones) and overall it’s good. Nice slice, decent groundstrokes and volleys, but I feel like it’s missing something so I add weight to 3 & 9 o’clock , and then I tried just 12 o’clock….then it starts feeling too heavy. I play ok with it but can’t quite get it dialed in. I got one of the new Nova Tours and it’s a lil heavy but has a little more power and larger head so that is kinda nice. Not sure what to do…maybe just stop with the extra weight and just play!@HypnoticLasagna I've just finished playing with the: Isospeed Rexxxer and the Tier One Black Knight. I've just strung the new MSV Swift on the Diadem Nova and maybe will string the Diadem Elevate with the Diadem Pro-X, since it's been a long time since I last played with a Diadem string and I owe them big time for all the gear they've sent me.
So, after these two I've mentioned above, I plan to play the ReString Zero 1.23 on the Diadem Nova and will decide what other string I'll string my Elevate with.
I suppose will be the second part of October.
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My calendar says you can spill it now.more info will come as im allowed to discuss... Feb 10th is the day that I can start making posts about first impressions