Restringing Wilson Hammer 6.2 T

#1
Hi:

I played mixed dubs Friday night and a friend gave me his Wilson Hammer 6.2 T's to restring. I thought it would be a straightforward Gosen OGSM Restring. I tried 2 piece with a Yonnex Loop on the mains. When I get to the bottom it is a bear trying to get the last cross into the grommet. I should have used the scrap string trick but I didn't

Anyway as it is about 6 degrees out, the string is cheap, and I have some time on my hands, I am going to head back downstairs and give a shot at restringing the racquets ATW.

I am just wondering if any of you have thoughts on how you would approach restringing this racquet.

Thanks
 

Irvin

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#3
Most wilson 16 main frames skip 7&9 and most 18 main frames skip 8&10. Note to self never (almost never LOL) use a so called Yonex Loop when stringing a frame that skips 7&9 or 8&10 in the throat. That will block the bottom cross grommet with 2 strings.
 
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Most wilson 16 main frames skip 7&9 and most 18 main frames skip 8&10. Note to self never use a so called Yonex Loop when stringing a frame that skips 7&9 or 8&10 in the throat. That will block the bottom cross grommet with 2 strings.
Yes, it sure did! My reasoning was I was facing a long run back to the tie off so figured either way I would have the issue with blocked grommets with 2 strings.

Anyway, ATW worked great!

Thank you!
 

Irvin

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#5
Yes, it sure did! My reasoning was I was facing a long run back to the tie off so figured either way I would have the issue with blocked grommets with 2 strings.

Anyway, ATW worked great!

Thank you!
If I was forced with a double blocked hole I would use blunt needles.
 
#6
Wow, piece of cake! ATW is it!
Well, you sure didn't wait long for a response (maybe 15 minutes?) before launching right into it.

Not all ATW patterns are well suited for all racquets. That's why it's best to be well versed at several different ATW patterns - so that you can implement the best suited one for a given frame.

So... depending on which one you went with, you may have gotten lucky by happenstance, or, you may have put the integrity of the frame at risk.
Exactly which ATW did you use?
 
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Irvin

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#7
Another 1 piece option for Wilson is (with or without a short side Yonex Loop) is to string bottom up. Just preweave the bottom 2 crosses before the Yonex Loop and tying off.
 
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Well, you sure didn't wait long for a response (maybe 15 minutes?) before launching right into it.

Not all ATW patterns are well suited for all racquets. That's why it's best to be well versed at several different ATW patterns - so that you can implement the best suited one for a given frame.

So... depending on which one you went with, you may have gotten lucky by happenstance, or, you may have put the integrity of the frame at risk.
Exactly which ATW did you use?
Hi Wes:

I for sure got lucky by happenstance!!!

I strung the 7 mains on the short side and tied off. I strung 8 on the long side but skipped 7 and did 8 first then 7 which put me next to the bottom cross. I then crossed over.

I went up on 8 on the short side and then across the top cross string. As there are even crosses I started with an opposite weave than the bottom cross. I worked my way down the racquet one ahead.

When I got to the second cross form the bottom I double pulled due to the hard weave and tied off.

That was the pattern I used. Hopefully, I didn't put the racquet at risk.

Thanks
 
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Well, you sure didn't wait long for a response (maybe 15 minutes?) before launching right into it.

Not all ATW patterns are well suited for all racquets. That's why it's best to be well versed at several different ATW patterns - so that you can implement the best suited one for a given frame.

So... depending on which one you went with, you may have gotten lucky by happenstance, or, you may have put the integrity of the frame at risk.
Exactly which ATW did you use?
Yes, sorry, my son had a lesson so I had 1 hour to take another shot at the racquet.
 
#11
Yes, sorry, my son had a lesson so I had 1 hour to take another shot at the racquet.
Exactly which iteration of the Hammer 6.2 (BTW, it IS one of the old "Skunk" frames, correct?) was it?
110" or 95"?
16x20? 16x18? 18x19?
Standard, or the "Stretch" length?
With the Power Holes, or the regular one?
What are the designated tie-off locations for the mains?
What are the designated tie-offs for the top/bottom crosses?

Can you post a photo (that shows the entire hoop, with strings in)?
If so, I'll look it over & give you my thoughts.
Without seeing the frame (and, of course, the grommet locations), I can't really say much one way or the other.

For the moment, I'm wondering why you chose not to use the SS for any of the crosses (which would've meant that only crosses would've preceded both tie-offs - thus preserving absolute tension on all of your mains).
 
#12
Hi Wes, it is a 95 16x18. I will send on a picture in the morning.

Klipper indicates tie offs for mains are 7t. tie offs for crosses are 5T-9B.

When you indicate I did not use "SS" for any of the crosses what are you meaning?
 
#13
Hi Wes, it is a 95 16x18. I will send on a picture in the morning.

Klipper indicates tie offs for mains are 7t. tie offs for crosses are 5T-9B.
Actually, for the 95" (16x18) Hammer 6.2, Klipper says that the mains tie at 6B, not 7T.
After all... if the mains ended at the top (7T), you wouldn't need to use an ATW in the first place.

When you indicate I did not use "SS" for any of the crosses what are you meaning?
Many/most ATW patterns incorporate at least one (or more) crosses into the Short Side (SS), so that it is a cross string that precedes both of the tie-offs, rather than having a main precede a tie-off.
This prevents any tension loss on any of the mains - since none of them immediately precede tying off a knot.

Example: when I use an ATW, typically it is the top cross string & bottom cross string that proceed the 2 tie-off locations.
Thusly, only the top/bottom cross get the slight tension loss associated with the knots, rather than any of the main strings.
Whereas, the ATW that you described would have the tension loss occurring on the 17th (2nd from bottom) cross and the 7th main string on your Short Side.

Also, since the 17th cross then could no longer be tied off at 9B (since that cross actually exits 9B), I presume you ended up tying off that 17th cross down at 6B... the only option left available (unless you planned well ahead & chose to expand some other grommet location with an awl before you ever started stringing the racquet).
 
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Irvin

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Hi Wes, it is a 95 16x18. I will send on a picture in the morning.

Klipper indicates tie offs for mains are 7t. tie offs for crosses are 5T-9B.

When you indicate I did not use "SS" for any of the crosses what are you meaning?
Now sure why but when I see a pattern that isn’t right it sticks out like a sore thumb. That pattern can’t be right, can anyone else see the problem?
 

Irvin

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Until @Wes mentioned the skunk racket I didn’t know which racket you were talking about. My wife played with the 95 Stretch model and still has 2.

16x20 Skips 7&9 H&T mains tie at 6T and crosses tie at 5H and 13T. Wilson strikes again. LOL
 
#17
Thanks Ervin and Wes. I was working from my phone and the headings slide over on the Klipper Web site making it hard to see which heading goes with which.

Did I damage the racquet or is it a mater that you guys have a better way to restring this ATW that you are describing?
 

Irvin

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#18
Thanks Ervin and Wes. I was working from my phone and the headings slide over on the Klipper Web site making it hard to see which heading goes with which.

Did I damage the racquet or is it a mater that you guys have a better way to restring this ATW that you are describing?
I would not have used the loop on the long side but doubt you did any damage.
 

Irvin

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@LOBALOT also on the side of that racket down near the tie off holes I believe there are fins sticking out for string guides. If you get both strings on the same side of those fins you should not have an issue getting your bottom cross in.
 
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