Retired vs. Timed

Topaz

Legend
In the world of timed matches, does anyone know if it makes a difference whether or not your match, which timed out, was entered as 'retired' instead? Any idea if it has any effect on the whole dynamic NTRP hoopla?

I ask because my last doubles match 'timed' out...meaning we ran out of time and did not actually finish the second set. It should have been entered into Tennislink as 'timed', but instead was entered as 'retired', which should only be used if either me or my partner was injured and quit the match (which neither of us did).

My partner and I had lost the first set 3-6, but we were ahead 4-3 when time ran out. We lost on games, and the score should have been entered:
3-6, 4-3, timed match with our opponents marked as the winners (9 games wins over 7).

I've seen 'retired' used instead of 'timed match' many times, actually, and I don't understand how people confuse them. Anway, still just a sliver of worry (not a lot) about how, if it all, that may effect things.
 

JavierLW

Hall of Fame
In the world of timed matches, does anyone know if it makes a difference whether or not your match, which timed out, was entered as 'retired' instead? Any idea if it has any effect on the whole dynamic NTRP hoopla?

I ask because my last doubles match 'timed' out...meaning we ran out of time and did not actually finish the second set. It should have been entered into Tennislink as 'timed', but instead was entered as 'retired', which should only be used if either me or my partner was injured and quit the match (which neither of us did).

My partner and I had lost the first set 3-6, but we were ahead 4-3 when time ran out. We lost on games, and the score should have been entered:
3-6, 4-3, timed match with our opponents marked as the winners (9 games wins over 7).

I've seen 'retired' used instead of 'timed match' many times, actually, and I don't understand how people confuse them. Anway, still just a sliver of worry (not a lot) about how, if it all, that may effect things.

DNTRP is based only on games won / loss, not the outcome of the match so it shouldnt make any difference.
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
Topaz,

The reason the captain enters "Retired" is because Tennislink has a bug and sometimes won't accept certain scores as "Timed." It should, but it doesn't.

In that case, captains in our league are to enter the scores as played with "Retired." We are to tell our league coordinator. He then goes in and actually changes the true scores to something TennisLink will accept.

I can't recall the specific example he gave me, but it was something like this.

My partner and I lost a match last year. It was entered as a win for our opponents, at 6-2, 5-6 (IIRC). Coordinator changed this to 6-2, 4-6, 1-0.

He says this is necessary and makes the games lost and everything work out. I don't understand, but there you have it.

This was in combo, a league that doesn't count for ratings or advancement to national playoffs.
 

SJS

New User
Topaz,

The reason the captain enters "Retired" is because Tennislink has a bug and sometimes won't accept certain scores as "Timed." It should, but it doesn't.

In that case, captains in our league are to enter the scores as played with "Retired." We are to tell our league coordinator. He then goes in and actually changes the true scores to something TennisLink will accept.

I can't recall the specific example he gave me, but it was something like this.

My partner and I lost a match last year. It was entered as a win for our opponents, at 6-2, 5-6 (IIRC). Coordinator changed this to 6-2, 4-6, 1-0.

He says this is necessary and makes the games lost and everything work out. I don't understand, but there you have it.

This was in combo, a league that doesn't count for ratings or advancement to national playoffs.
Cindy is correct. I've been dealing with this for years. Tennis Link just won't accept "Timed Match" for some scores so "Retired" is the only option. But we've been told only to tell the league coordinator if we enter "Retired" due to injury, etc., otherwise it's assumed time ran out.
 

Topaz

Legend
Ahhh, okay, in my times as winning captain and entering scores, I hadn't run across this particular bug...thanks for the info! :)
 
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