Retirement Prediction!!!!

14OuncesStrung

Semi-Pro
Unfortunately I think Murray, Nadal and Djokovic will all retire within 3 months as they steadily realise they cannot rehabilitate from their chronic injuries after playing so many tennis matches for so long.
Blame it on poly!!!
 

Federev

Hall of Fame
Unfortunately I think Murray, Nadal and Djokovic will all retire within 3 months as they steadily realise they cannot rehabilitate from their chronic injuries after playing so many tennis matches for so long.
Blame it on poly!!!
I blame it on Fed for raising the bar so high they had to kill themsleves to catch him.

And alas, perhaps he pulls away just before the final flag!
 

justasport

Professional
nobody has a clue as to what will happen with these guys.....I look for Federer to play into his 38th or 39th year.....nadal will probably play into his 33rd and 34th year...I wont predict murray or Djokovic because I really don't care
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
Unfortunately I think Murray, Nadal and Djokovic will all retire within 3 months as they steadily realise they cannot rehabilitate from their chronic injuries after playing so many tennis matches for so long.
Blame it on poly!!!
Don't think poly has much to do with Nadal's knees...
 

clout

Hall of Fame
Until his back surgery in 2013 Murray had the better of their overall H2H.
Lol I actually lowkey forgot about that. It's pretty crazy how Murray and Nadal both owned Fed in his prime (well maybe not owned but they both certainly had the Swiss' number), but nowadays winning a set against old Fed (let alone a match) is the new mission impossible for both the Scot and the Spaniard.
 
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
Lol I actually lowkey forgot about that. It's pretty crazy how Murray and Nadal both owned Fed in his prime (well maybe not owned but they both certainly had the Swiss' number), but nowadays winning a set against old Fed is the new mission impossible for both the Scot and the Spaniard.
Murray did manage one in Glasgow last month and Nadal managed 2 in Melbourne a year ago but they are certainly getting harder to come by! ;)
 

clout

Hall of Fame
Murray did manage one in Glasgow last month and Nadal managed 2 in Melbourne a year ago but they are certainly getting harder to come by! ;)
Lol yea that actually blows my mind how Fed was able to turn both of those H2Hs around (especially vs Nadal).
Murray led 11-8 between 2006-2013; and has been 0-5 vs Fed since 2014. While Nadal led 23-10 between 2004-2014; and has been 0-5 vs Fed since 2015.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
Olympic gold in Londonbo was a big deal for both of them, and OZ 2013 was solid.
I actually think Murray's 2012 Olympic Gold was a massive moment in his career - after his run of slam Final losses it seemed to give him the belief that he could do it. People are always arguing about the significance of Olympic Gold and WTF but it seems their importance depends on who wins them and in what circumstances. Federer's 08 Olympics Doubles Gold wouldn't normally be considered a big part of his resume but he said after his US Open win how much it had improved his mood and given him his confidence back.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
Lol yea that actually blows my mind how Fed was able to turn both of those H2Hs around (especially vs Nadal).
He gives a good account of it himself here:

There’s the Basel win first of all in 2015 [in the final 6-3, 5-7, 6-3] at home, which really did me good. It comforted me in the idea that if I play well indoors, or on a fast surface, it would always be tough for him. After, I think that our long break acted as a reset for our rivalry. In our head-to-heads, our 2004 matches have no relation to today. We’re now two guys who’ve had operations, among the oldest. It’s another era. I approach the matches telling myself, ‘OK, we’ll see what happens.’ My new racquet has given me more options than in the past. Before, my game was more based on a sliced backhand and my forehand. Now, I can do more things with my backhand, and I proved that to myself in Australia against him. That was it. And, tactically, I was clearer in my head about how to play him as opposed to before. The racquet, the surface, the momentum [the dynamic] of finally ending the wins against me, it’s all a package. Plus the fact that I possibly could have won some matches against him I ended up losing. I’m think of Dubai, here, once in the final [in 2006, loss 2-6, 6-4, 6-4], which I shouldn’t have lost, Rome, which I lose in five sets [6-7, 7-6, 6-4, 2-6, 7-6] in the same year which I possibly should have won, at Roland where I for once had a chance [2011, loss 7-5, 7-6, 5-7, 6-1] … All those matches created a sort of spiral which favoured him.







 

Newballs

Professional
I always felt that Rog & Rafa would retire within a year of each other, not sure about the rest.
Hope Murray & Djoko come around, it would be nice to see what else they can accomplish.
 

Federev

Hall of Fame
He gives a good account of it himself here:

There’s the Basel win first of all in 2015 [in the final 6-3, 5-7, 6-3] at home, which really did me good. It comforted me in the idea that if I play well indoors, or on a fast surface, it would always be tough for him. After, I think that our long break acted as a reset for our rivalry. In our head-to-heads, our 2004 matches have no relation to today. We’re now two guys who’ve had operations, among the oldest. It’s another era. I approach the matches telling myself, ‘OK, we’ll see what happens.’ My new racquet has given me more options than in the past. Before, my game was more based on a sliced backhand and my forehand. Now, I can do more things with my backhand, and I proved that to myself in Australia against him. That was it. And, tactically, I was clearer in my head about how to play him as opposed to before. The racquet, the surface, the momentum [the dynamic] of finally ending the wins against me, it’s all a package. Plus the fact that I possibly could have won some matches against him I ended up losing. I’m think of Dubai, here, once in the final [in 2006, loss 2-6, 6-4, 6-4], which I shouldn’t have lost, Rome, which I lose in five sets [6-7, 7-6, 6-4, 2-6, 7-6] in the same year which I possibly should have won, at Roland where I for once had a chance [2011, loss 7-5, 7-6, 5-7, 6-1] … All those matches created a sort of spiral which favoured him.







wow - where's this from? cool - thanks for posting.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
He gives a good account of it himself here:

There’s the Basel win first of all in 2015 [in the final 6-3, 5-7, 6-3] at home, which really did me good. It comforted me in the idea that if I play well indoors, or on a fast surface, it would always be tough for him. After, I think that our long break acted as a reset for our rivalry. In our head-to-heads, our 2004 matches have no relation to today. We’re now two guys who’ve had operations, among the oldest. It’s another era. I approach the matches telling myself, ‘OK, we’ll see what happens.’ My new racquet has given me more options than in the past. Before, my game was more based on a sliced backhand and my forehand. Now, I can do more things with my backhand, and I proved that to myself in Australia against him. That was it. And, tactically, I was clearer in my head about how to play him as opposed to before. The racquet, the surface, the momentum [the dynamic] of finally ending the wins against me, it’s all a package. Plus the fact that I possibly could have won some matches against him I ended up losing. I’m think of Dubai, here, once in the final [in 2006, loss 2-6, 6-4, 6-4], which I shouldn’t have lost, Rome, which I lose in five sets [6-7, 7-6, 6-4, 2-6, 7-6] in the same year which I possibly should have won, at Roland where I for once had a chance [2011, loss 7-5, 7-6, 5-7, 6-1] … All those matches created a sort of spiral which favoured him.
That match in Australia was the spark Fed has been needing against Rafa for over 10 years. Looking into their matches in the past, a lot of the matches that Nadal won were usually in 4-5 sets (at majors), or two very tight sets/deciders (in best of 3's). Whereas, almost every match that Fed won in the rivalry (especially since 2008) have been straight-setters. In the past, Fed would have to bring his A+++ game vs Rafa and simply blow him off the court in straight sets, or else he'd lose if the match were any closer than that. Since the AO match however, Fed has gained so much confidence when playing against Rafa (confidence he's been missing for the last 15 years or so) that regardless of the form he's in at the current tournament, he knows he'll always have the upper hand whenever he goes 1v1 against the Spaniard; basically the same type of confidence Rafa USED to have whenever playing Fed. For example, in past years, many of their matches would take place where Fed was the better player throughout the tourney and sometimes even during most of their match, but Rafa was able to step up and deliver at the most crucial of times. Nowadays, Fed is able to turn the tables in that department, like in Shanghai for instance, Rafa was probably in better form than Fed up until the finals, but in the actual finals match, it was Fed that was able to up his game at the right time.
 

tennis_crazy

Semi-Pro
Lol yea that actually blows my mind how Fed was able to turn both of those H2Hs around (especially vs Nadal).
Murray led 11-8 between 2006-2013; and has been 0-5 vs Fed since 2014. While Nadal led 23-10 between 2004-2014; and has been 0-5 vs Fed since 2015.
Actually Fed has turned around quite a few H2H. He was trailing against Henman, Hewitt & Nalbandian to start with. Eventually he got the better off those. However those were all either from his generation or prior...
Hope he can make it close with Rafa...
 

clout

Hall of Fame
Actually Fed has turned around quite a few H2H. He was trailing against Henman, Hewitt & Nalbandian to start with. Eventually he got the better off those. However those were all either from his generation or prior...
Hope he can make it close with Rafa...
He has but as you said those guys were all either his age or older and none of those guys are even close to as good as Nadal or even Murray are. Plus Fed is a good 5-6 years younger than both of them which is even more impressive.
 

MugOpponent

Hall of Fame
He gives a good account of it himself here:

There’s the Basel win first of all in 2015 [in the final 6-3, 5-7, 6-3] at home, which really did me good. It comforted me in the idea that if I play well indoors, or on a fast surface, it would always be tough for him. After, I think that our long break acted as a reset for our rivalry. In our head-to-heads, our 2004 matches have no relation to today. We’re now two guys who’ve had operations, among the oldest. It’s another era. I approach the matches telling myself, ‘OK, we’ll see what happens.’ My new racquet has given me more options than in the past. Before, my game was more based on a sliced backhand and my forehand. Now, I can do more things with my backhand, and I proved that to myself in Australia against him. That was it. And, tactically, I was clearer in my head about how to play him as opposed to before. The racquet, the surface, the momentum [the dynamic] of finally ending the wins against me, it’s all a package. Plus the fact that I possibly could have won some matches against him I ended up losing. I’m think of Dubai, here, once in the final [in 2006, loss 2-6, 6-4, 6-4], which I shouldn’t have lost, Rome, which I lose in five sets [6-7, 7-6, 6-4, 2-6, 7-6] in the same year which I possibly should have won, at Roland where I for once had a chance [2011, loss 7-5, 7-6, 5-7, 6-1] … All those matches created a sort of spiral which favoured him.







I get the dwelling on tough losses on what could have been but a lot of this is weak sauce. Nadal lost some tight matches to Federer early in their career as well. The Miami match and 07 Wimbledon were very tough losses. Nadal didn't let those ruin him like Fed infers his losses did to him. I find the excuse making and the idea that the evil caveman Nadal getting lucky to accrue a mental edge to be absolutely hilarious.
 

Mugu

Rookie
I always felt that Rog & Rafa would retire within a year of each other, not sure about the rest.
Hope Murray & Djoko come around, it would be nice to see what else they can accomplish.
i have that same feeling about Rog & Rafa, and i think that 2018 will be their last year on tour. as for murray & djoko, i also hope they
can get on top of their injuries, or they may have already played their last year on tour.
 

fedtennisphan

Hall of Fame
I get the dwelling on tough losses on what could have been but a lot of this is weak sauce. Nadal lost some tight matches to Federer early in their career as well. The Miami match and 07 Wimbledon were very tough losses. Nadal didn't let those ruin him like Fed infers his losses did to him. I find the excuse making and the idea that the evil caveman Nadal getting lucky to accrue a mental edge to be absolutely hilarious.
The only person that is in ruins is you.
 

MugOpponent

Hall of Fame
The only person that is in ruins is you.
Doubtful. My current life situation would probably be classified as close to a 180 of 'in ruins' as you can get. Happy new year to you.

P.S. you don't need to post 20 attacking posts a day in defense of your boy. It's actually a little sad.
 

Fedforever

Hall of Fame
I get the dwelling on tough losses on what could have been but a lot of this is weak sauce. Nadal lost some tight matches to Federer early in their career as well. The Miami match and 07 Wimbledon were very tough losses. Nadal didn't let those ruin him like Fed infers his losses did to him. I find the excuse making and the idea that the evil caveman Nadal getting lucky to accrue a mental edge to be absolutely hilarious.
I actually think you make a fair point here - I suppose it might have been that Fed expected himself to win (as did the press/outside world in general) so there was more pressure? Also we hear more about Federer's side of the rivalry (from an emotional point of view) because he's happier to talk about himself than Nadal is!! I really liked the interview because it felt honest but this did feel oddly emotional: There’s the Basel win first of all in 2015 [in the final 6-3, 5-7, 6-3] at home, which really did me good. It comforted me in the idea that if I play well indoors, or on a fast surface, it would always be tough for him. I mean, he's playing Nadal in a year when Fed is in much better form than Nadal and on a surface where he's actually dominated the rivalry -it should have been, mentally, not a problem.
 
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Guest
Hey look, another bitter nobody with horrible predictions.
 

World Beater

Hall of Fame
I get the dwelling on tough losses on what could have been but a lot of this is weak sauce. Nadal lost some tight matches to Federer early in their career as well. The Miami match and 07 Wimbledon were very tough losses. Nadal didn't let those ruin him like Fed infers his losses did to him. I find the excuse making and the idea that the evil caveman Nadal getting lucky to accrue a mental edge to be absolutely hilarious.
Fed's response does seem strange. he has always fared well against nadal indoors dating back to the beginning of the rivalry. it looks like he is trying to find excuses/explanations for the losses. especially the ones he should have won (in his mind).

he gives the impression that he was mentally a wreck against nadal, which i think is exaggerated. i remember federer talking a big game back in the day against nadal before each of the showdowns (and in some he even competed well even with the loss)...so its a bit of revisionist history now.

I remember fed facing nadal in 2005 rg semi...this was mind you after nadal blew a 2-0 lead in miami...nadal took fed to school in that semi.
 
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