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This thread is a response to this another one: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...ng-system-using-current-atp-weighting.539099/
@timnz suggested that, using current ATP weighting, Ivan Lendl's career achievements rank higher in ATP points than Rafael Nadal's achievements. According to his ranking, Lendl's overall achievemts = 99.48 points and Nadal's overall achievemnts = 98.76 points.
His ranking isn't broad enough and doesn't take into account all factors such as F, SF and QF as mine does. His ranking only includes F and SF, not QF. I created two rankings, one considering only titles, and another one considering both titles and F, SF and QF.
I elaborated an objective comparison of achievements between Rafael Nadal and Ivan Lendl using current ATP weighting. I created two rankings: one considering only titles, and another one considering both titles and finals, semifinals and quarterfinals.
FIRST RANKING, ATP weighting of titles alone:
1. Grand Slams (2000 points)
2. ATP Finals (1500 points)
3. Olympic Gold in singles (0 points)
4. Masters 1000 or equivalent (1000 points)
5. Masters 500 or equivalent (500 points)
6. ATP 250 or equivalent (250 points)
Nadal = (17 x 2000) + (0 x 1500) + (1 x 0) + (32 x 1000) + (20 x 500) + (9 x 250) = 78250 points
Lendl = (8 x 2000) + (7 x 1500) + (0 x 0) + (22 x 1000) + (42 x 500) + (15 x 250) = 73250 points
Nadal is over Lendl with 5000 ATP points of difference if we only consider titles, the most relevant aspect.
SECOND RANKING, ATP weighting of both titles and finals (F), semifinals (SF) and quarterfinals (QF):
1. Grand Slam F (1200 points)
2. Grand Slam SF (720 points)
3. Grand Slam QF (360 points)
4. ATP Finals F (1000 points)
5. ATP Finals SF (600 points)
7. Masters 1000 or equivalent F (600 points)
8. Masters 1000 or equivalent SF (360 points)
9. Masters 1000 or equivalent QF (180 points)
10. Masters 500 F (300 points)
11. Masters 500 SF (180 points)
12. Masters 500 QF (90 points)
Nadal = (7 x 1200) + (3 x 720) + (7 x 360) + (2 x 1000) + (3 x 600) + (16 x 600) + (18 x 360) + (19 x 180) + (6 x 300) + (3 x 180) + (8 x 90) = 31040 points in F, SF and QF + 78250 points in titles = 109290 points
Lendl = (11 x 1200) + (9 x 720) + (6 x 360) + (5 x 1000) + (5 x 600) + (11 x 600) + (8 x 360) + (7 x 180) + (17 x 300) + (14 x 180) + (16 x 90) = 49640 points in F, SF and QF + 70250 points in titles = 119890 points
Lendl is over Nadal with 10.000 ATP points of difference if we consider both titles and F, SF and QF.
@timnz suggested that, using current ATP weighting, Ivan Lendl's career achievements rank higher in ATP points than Rafael Nadal's achievements. According to his ranking, Lendl's overall achievemts = 99.48 points and Nadal's overall achievemnts = 98.76 points.
His ranking isn't broad enough and doesn't take into account all factors such as F, SF and QF as mine does. His ranking only includes F and SF, not QF. I created two rankings, one considering only titles, and another one considering both titles and F, SF and QF.
I elaborated an objective comparison of achievements between Rafael Nadal and Ivan Lendl using current ATP weighting. I created two rankings: one considering only titles, and another one considering both titles and finals, semifinals and quarterfinals.
FIRST RANKING, ATP weighting of titles alone:
1. Grand Slams (2000 points)
2. ATP Finals (1500 points)
3. Olympic Gold in singles (0 points)
4. Masters 1000 or equivalent (1000 points)
5. Masters 500 or equivalent (500 points)
6. ATP 250 or equivalent (250 points)
Nadal = (17 x 2000) + (0 x 1500) + (1 x 0) + (32 x 1000) + (20 x 500) + (9 x 250) = 78250 points
Lendl = (8 x 2000) + (7 x 1500) + (0 x 0) + (22 x 1000) + (42 x 500) + (15 x 250) = 73250 points
Nadal is over Lendl with 5000 ATP points of difference if we only consider titles, the most relevant aspect.
SECOND RANKING, ATP weighting of both titles and finals (F), semifinals (SF) and quarterfinals (QF):
1. Grand Slam F (1200 points)
2. Grand Slam SF (720 points)
3. Grand Slam QF (360 points)
4. ATP Finals F (1000 points)
5. ATP Finals SF (600 points)
7. Masters 1000 or equivalent F (600 points)
8. Masters 1000 or equivalent SF (360 points)
9. Masters 1000 or equivalent QF (180 points)
10. Masters 500 F (300 points)
11. Masters 500 SF (180 points)
12. Masters 500 QF (90 points)
Nadal = (7 x 1200) + (3 x 720) + (7 x 360) + (2 x 1000) + (3 x 600) + (16 x 600) + (18 x 360) + (19 x 180) + (6 x 300) + (3 x 180) + (8 x 90) = 31040 points in F, SF and QF + 78250 points in titles = 109290 points
Lendl = (11 x 1200) + (9 x 720) + (6 x 360) + (5 x 1000) + (5 x 600) + (11 x 600) + (8 x 360) + (7 x 180) + (17 x 300) + (14 x 180) + (16 x 90) = 49640 points in F, SF and QF + 70250 points in titles = 119890 points
Lendl is over Nadal with 10.000 ATP points of difference if we consider both titles and F, SF and QF.
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