RF97A to Gravity pro

Has anyone here made the conversion or one with similar spec rackets? How'd you find it?

I love my RF97 but I often (am forced to) play late at night and can feel the weight of it dragging me down in the second set, especially on serves.

The opportunity to demo rackets is rare where I live so don't bother recommending that.
 

MisterP

Hall of Fame
Saw your post in the other thread - I have both sticks. As long as you find one that's in the normal spec range, the Gravity Pro is definitely easier to swing. The Gravity *should* be at or slightly under 12oz with a 330-ish swingweight. The RF97 is mid to high 330's and 12.6-12.9oz depending on your setup.

You're going to notice some differences in how it makes power, and how the launch angle differs. I think it's a good switch, personally.
 

cyanide43

Rookie
Don't really recommend too many people play with a high static weight racquet like a RF97 anymore, especially if you play a modern game. Too hard to maneuver and can tire you out.

A Gravity Pro is a great choice because it retains the "plow" because it has a swingweight of over 330, but is way easier to play with because of its lower weight.

However, the feel of the Gravity frame will be different due to its different headsize and flex. That's a preference thing. If you like the RF97's feel but need a lighter racquet, use the lighter prostaff 97 and add a few grams of weight to the tip to get to the swingweight to the same as your RF97.
 
Don't really recommend too many people play with a high static weight racquet like a RF97 anymore, especially if you play a modern game. Too hard to maneuver and can tire you out.

A Gravity Pro is a great choice because it retains the "plow" because it has a swingweight of over 330, but is way easier to play with because of its lower weight.

However, the feel of the Gravity frame will be different due to its different headsize and flex. That's a preference thing. If you like the RF97's feel but need a lighter racquet, use the lighter prostaff 97 and add a few grams of weight to the tip to get to the swingweight to the same as your RF97.
It's funny you mention "a modern game" because as I've modernised some aspects of my game (more western grip, back swing more "whippy", switched to two handed backhand((wrist problem))) all in the past year it could be in correlation with getting more exhausted on the court...but probably just coincidence.
Either way I've been wondering how the more even balance of a gravity would effect these aspects of my game.

I tried a friends old i.Prestige (98 square inch head I think) and it was pretty sweet. I think that has a similar swing weight and balance to a gravity but higher static weight. Better? Hard to say, it had a very different string set up than I use.
 
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Gravity Pro plays great, IME. More forgiving, comes through the air reasonably easily, enough forgiveness, but still allows for a decent smack. My extremes that I enjoy a lot are: PS85 is very quick but not forgiving, POG OS is very forgiving but much slower through the air; both have good plow. The GPro seems to have a good balance of these characteristics and makes it easy to keep the ball in the court with decent amount of “English” on it. But the balance and feel and all that are very personal. Enjoy the search!
 
It's sort of funny, last night when it was around 9:45pm and my RF97 was giving me all the problems I've been talking about in this thread, I switched to my six.one and started returning serves from inside the baseline and hitting ground strokes on the rise, all my problems were solved, lol.

...Can't play like that against every opponent though:(
 

kingcheetah

Hall of Fame
Has anyone here made the conversion or one with similar spec rackets? How'd you find it?

I love my RF97 but I often (am forced to) play late at night and can feel the weight of it dragging me down in the second set, especially on serves.

The opportunity to demo rackets is rare where I live so don't bother recommending that.
I've played a bunch of different rackets in the last few years (I switched multiple times in college too). I loved the RF for indoor doubles when i was playing a lot, but now I just don't play enough to be dialed in with it. The Gravity Pro gives lots of feel, control, and stability, but is maneuverable and more forgiving... I demoed the MP and liked it except it felt too flimsy against big servers. Bought some Gravity Pros through PTR and switched immediately.
 

MisterP

Hall of Fame
Tennisnerd said he didn’t stick with the GP b/c he couldn’t get used to the more roundish shape of the hoop.
 
Anyone think the Wilson Clash 98 could be a easier transition and better option?

Two things have me worried about the Gravity Pro and that's the 100 square inch head and the balance.
 

lefty100

Rookie
Mostly folks that didn’t like the weight and/or swingweight - a lot of those were satisfied with the Gravity Tour, though. The Babolat guys also didn’t like it, I guess
It was too much racquet for me in terms of swingweight. The Gravity Tour is awesome from my perspective - the noticeably lower static weight & slightly lower swingweight enabled be to sill have good racquet speed and spin while enjoying the added control of the 18x20 string pattern.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Anyone think the Wilson Clash 98 could be a easier transition and better option?

Two things have me worried about the Gravity Pro and that's the 100 square inch head and the balance.
Coming from the RF97A, the Pro should be a good match. It’s super solid at the net, and the feel is much better than the RF.

What didn’t work for me with the RF after playing it for more than and hour (second set), was the combo high static weight, high SW - and massive power. The G Pro doesn’t have that problem, but you’ll need sharp footwork though, esp when you get tired. Don’t worry about the 100 sq in or the 18x20 pattern. I’ve always played 95/97/98 frames, and the G Pro/Tour feels familiar.

The Clash series is just a fad, just like the spin patterns a few years ago. The Clash 98 is today’s version of the hammer series.
 

pico

Professional
I have both and I really enjoy both but like others have said - I tend to do better in a match setting with The Gravity Pro. I must say that the kick I get with the RF97 has been the best out of any racquet but I still serve pretty decent with my Gravity Pro. I have a Gamma leather grip on mine and 2g of lead at 12.
 
Coming from the RF97A, the Pro should be a good match. It’s super solid at the net, and the feel is much better than the RF.

What didn’t work for me with the RF after playing it for more than and hour (second set), was the combo high static weight, high SW - and massive power. The G Pro doesn’t have that problem, but you’ll need sharp footwork though, esp when you get tired. Don’t worry about the 100 sq in or the 18x20 pattern. I’ve always played 95/97/98 frames, and the G Pro/Tour feels familiar.

The Clash series is just a fad, just like the spin patterns a few years ago. The Clash 98 is today’s version of the hammer series.
Yeah, I dismissed the Clash shortly after I posted that when I read about the wild launch angles it gets.

Got any experience with the Prestige MP line by any chance?
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Yeah, I dismissed the Clash shortly after I posted that when I read about the wild launch angles it gets.

Got any experience with the Prestige MP line by any chance?
I played the IG Prestige MP and Pro for a while, and the first gen Graphene Prestiges. I was prob around 3.5 though (even if i thought i was 4.0+), but as far as i can recall, the IG prestige MP is one the best feeling rackets I’ve played.

The Yonex Duel G 97 310/330 line is also a frame that comes to mind. The Gravity Pro as well. The Tour is not as sweet, but it’s more forgiving with more power, and thus easier to play. Compared to the Pro, it’d like adding 20% Babolat Pure Drive «feel» AND power :)

Comparing the Gravity Pro to the Prestige IG MP: feel and control in the same ballpark, much easier to use, much bigger sweet zone, more forgiving. But if you hit the sweet zone consistently with power on the IG Prestige MP, there’s not much that equals that feel.
 
I played the IG Prestige MP and Pro for a while, and the first gen Graphene Prestiges. I was prob around 3.5 though (even if i thought i was 4.0+), but as far as i can recall, the IG prestige MP is one the best feeling rackets I’ve played.

The Yonex Duel G 97 310/330 line is also a frame that comes to mind. The Gravity Pro as well. The Tour is not as sweet, but it’s more forgiving with more power, and thus easier to play. Compared to the Pro, it’d like adding 20% Babolat Pure Drive «feel» AND power :)

Comparing the Gravity Pro to the Prestige IG MP: feel and control in the same ballpark, much easier to use, much bigger sweet zone, more forgiving. But if you hit the sweet zone consistently with power on the IG Prestige MP, there’s not much that equals that feel.
Try the Tecnifibre TF 40 if you can. Maybe you like it.
Too many options, its doing my head in(no wordplay intended).
The swing weight of the gravity pro has me worried it might defeat the purpose of switching to lighter racket. The RF97 no longer suits my recently "modernised" swing style and I feel like I have to push it on the follow through. About 9 points headlight and 15grams lighter strung I think would have me in the right place.
 

TheIntrovert

Hall of Fame
I’m debating doing the exact thing. The gravity has far more control and feel. A lot whippier as well so I am able to consistently produce heavier balls, hit lower balls with enough dip and be able to the lasso finish with a consistent ball. Downside however is the lack of weight. Can really feel it against serves and the lack of weight behind groundies. Serve as well. Volleys also worse. So basically it comes down to consistency vs weight of shot for me. I am gonna experiment with a couple of setups for the gravity pro and see if I can get some of the weight of shot back. If so, the switch will be happening.
 
The RF97 no longer suits my recently "modernised" swing style and I feel like I have to push it on the follow through. About 9 points headlight and 15grams lighter strung I think would have me in the right place.
What does modernized swing style mean? A good preparation and a clean follow through using the core (not just the arm) is essential no matter which racquet you use. There could be many reasons why you might want to switch from the RF97 to the Gravity Pro. But, if it is at the cost of right technique in the guise of "modernised" swing style, beware. Just a heads up.
 
What does modernized swing style mean? A good preparation and a clean follow through using the core (not just the arm) is essential no matter which racquet you use. There could be many reasons why you might want to switch from the RF97 to the Gravity Pro. But, if it is at the cost of right technique in the guise of "modernised" swing style, beware. Just a heads up.
It basically just means last summer I switched from an eastern grip to a full western. I made the decision because I thought a western already felt quite natural and could make me more consistent, and I was right.
 

GuilhermeG

Rookie
Never tried the RF97 (too hefty and too powerful, as I heard), but I bought a gravity pro without any demo as a possible replacement to my beloved i. prestige mp's.

I'm noticing a trend of people trying the gravity pro as a possible "user friendly" replacement to their advanced player's racquet. Let us know your impressions, if you pull the trigger.
 
Never tried the RF97 (too hefty and too powerful, as I heard), but I bought a gravity pro without any demo as a possible replacement to my beloved i. prestige mp's.

I'm noticing a trend of people trying the gravity pro as a possible "user friendly" replacement to their advanced player's racquet. Let us know your impressions, if you pull the trigger.
It's funny you mention the MP as while I have been in this state of racket-limbo I've been using a Liquidmetal MP I bought 2nd hand. I freakin love it. Now the new Prestige line is also on the cards.
 

Anthony Kirk

New User
I have played with RF97s for the past 4-5 years, originally had the 2016-2017 model and then switched to the all black model. I am currently waiting on my specially customized Tecnifibre TFight 305 XTC to have the same balance as the RF97s. If you want a lower weight racquet, close to RF97 swingweight, slightly more flex then the stock tfight 305 XTC is right up your alley. Mine being customized will come out to around 12.3oz strung and overgrip and 9-10pts HL.
 
Never tried the RF97 (too hefty and too powerful, as I heard), but I bought a gravity pro without any demo as a possible replacement to my beloved i. prestige mp's.

I'm noticing a trend of people trying the gravity pro as a possible "user friendly" replacement to their advanced player's racquet. Let us know your impressions, if you pull the trigger.
I think you need to try it for yourself. I was very hesitant demoing the RF97 based on all I read here. So, when I had to order my Gravity Pro demo, I had a 3rd racquet to fill, and i just put RF97 as a filler. Guess what, I ended up buying the RF97s :) I just tried the gravity pro for a 30 minute session. Kept coming back to the RF97.. There is something magical about that frame..
 

Anthony Kirk

New User
Never tried the RF97 (too hefty and too powerful, as I heard), but I bought a gravity pro without any demo as a possible replacement to my beloved i. prestige mp's.

I'm noticing a trend of people trying the gravity pro as a possible "user friendly" replacement to their advanced player's racquet. Let us know your impressions, if you pull the trigger.
The best way I can describe the RF97 is it forces you to have solid technique from start to finish. As far as power its a lower powered racquet so the power comes from the user. Everytime I have tried something different than the RF97 it was very clear that the overall build and design of the RF97 are superior in many ways to other frames.

I've heard some good things about the new head racquets but I just couldnt find one that was a good fit string pattern and weight wise.
 
The best way I can describe the RF97 is it forces you to have solid technique from start to finish. As far as power its a lower powered racquet so the power comes from the user. Everytime I have tried something different than the RF97 it was very clear that the overall build and design of the RF97 are superior in many ways to other frames.

I've heard some good things about the new head racquets but I just couldnt find one that was a good fit string pattern and weight wise.
That's a great way to describe it. I've always said it's a the RF97 is a racket that forces you to be a better player. I was probably "under qualified" to be using one when I first bought it but I could tell it would help me improve my technique because it punishes you if you try and take shortcuts but rewards you, oh so sweetly when you do things right. Plus I always knew where the racket was, at all stages of swing, behind my head, mid swing, follow through. Never lost track like I used to with tweener rackets.

Tennisnerd did a vid about a RF97 customized by German company 'RingRoll'(.de). Seriously considering getting mine lightened as he did.
 

diddyac

Rookie
I experiment with a lot of new release racquets, always looking to buy / try for fun - Gravity Pro is the only one I've stuck with 100% throughout, the sweet spot literally is massive, it does have a bit of a big SW but if you use an RF97 already, than it shouldn't be a problem - on Gravity Pro, i'll off center any kind of shot, it will still feel pretty nice and more often than not it still lands in with a full swing
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
I'm temporarily shifted away from the RF97A, not hitting enough. I done the opposite though gone to PK 5G PSE. Heavier but tighter string pattern 16x20. I find the RF97 erratic and requires higher level of topspin to control power.
The PK is more consistent across the face and much lower launch angle. It produces a heavier ball but I use it more for the additional plow.
There's also the theory that it's heavier than optimum and results in slowing swing down. End of day RF97 sweet spot is small and requires more topspin than I like to control power.
I'll likely go back to it once practise more. Or go to PK Red 98, complete opposite type racquet.
 
I'm temporarily shifted away from the RF97A, not hitting enough. I done the opposite though gone to PK 5G PSE. Heavier but tighter string pattern 16x20. I find the RF97 erratic and requires higher level of topspin to control power.
The PK is more consistent across the face and much lower launch angle. It produces a heavier ball but I use it more for the additional plow.
There's also the theory that it's heavier than optimum and results in slowing swing down. End of day RF97 sweet spot is small and requires more topspin than I like to control power.
I'll likely go back to it once practise more. Or go to PK Red 98, complete opposite type racquet.
"PK"? PROKENNEX???
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
"PK"? PROKENNEX???
Yes. ProKennex 5g PSE used to be the heaviest mute racquet around. It's not good for lagging FH as heavy, more 90s style play though Murray used to use something much heavier.
I got it for night tennis where I struggle with perception of depth. I have sight issues. It allows compact flattish swing and generate depth.
Its probably too heavy for ATP modern FH though Andy used to swing something much heavier.
 

Anthony Kirk

New User
I finally got to play with my Tecnifibre Tfight 305 XTC racquets that I had TW customize for me. All I can say is wow, the control and ease of everything is seemingly improved over my beloved RF97 racquets. If your looking for a racquet that can be made to similar RF97 stats give that stick a good look. My pair came out to 12.24oz strung(before overgrip), 9pt HL, and swingweight around 345... again these are stats after TW customized.
 
To anyone still watching this thread I've made the leap and ordered my Gravity Pro. Hopefully I'll have it by the weekend. I have a packet of Luxilon Adrenaline in my tennis bag which I'll string it with when it arrives.

I was seriously considering getting the new Prestige 360+ MP but ended up going with G-pro due to the fact all other Prestige MP's I've played with have a very low launch angle and I rather clear the net by 1 metre than 1cm, even if they have worked well for me in matches.

I'll update to let you all know if I've made an expensive mistake, lol.
 

FuzzyYellowBalls

Professional
Has anyone tried a Gravity pro and NOT liked it?
To echo some in this thread, I didn't like the swingweight, but it was more the head heavy balance. I think I might have gotten a wonky version, as in bad quality control. I went from RF to the Gravity pro. I sold it. I think the RF is best for serve and volley for rec players, and it is head light in general. The Gravity Pro is less head light, but mine felt head heavy. I ended up going Vcore Pro 330 then Vcore Pro HD for head lightness and Yonex quality control.
 

Kal-El 34

Hall of Fame
I will echo that the RF97 feels better at the net, but from the baseline the GPro wins hands down. I prefer serving with the Gpro as well. I swapped the grip for a Finest Calfskin and haven't looked back
 

SlvrDragon50

Semi-Pro
I will echo that the RF97 feels better at the net, but from the baseline the GPro wins hands down. I prefer serving with the Gpro as well. I swapped the grip for a Finest Calfskin and haven't looked back
Where do you get a Finest Calfskin? Is that the same as the Head Leather Tour?
 
Finished stringing with Luxilon Adrenaline and now a little quality control...

328g strung. Its advertised as 315 unstrung and strings are about 15g so that's nothing to complain about.

325mm or 6 points heads light. Again, marked specs are 315mm (UNSTRUNG) so the shift in balance with strings is where it should be.

VERDICT: PASSED

Tomorrow I'll give it the only test that matters.
 
So I've played a match with it now(victoriously btw). But unfortunately I didn't set it up so it would be a perfect experiment. For one I didn't string it with my usual strings and secondly I played with balls I've never used brand new before (Tretorn Serie+, hard as rocks).

But first my one word review: GOOD

(Long version below)

Ground strokes 8/10
Top spin was there for the taking when I wanted it, as was the ability the fire flat lazers into the corners. Slice was really nice as well, rivaling the RF97 and six.one in that department.
My two handed backhand was feeling great with this racket, I think Alexander Zverev blesses every Gravity Pro before it leaves the factory.

Returns 9/10
This score will be taking into consideration I just came from a 360g racket.
The extra maneuverability really helped without having to give up stability because of the high swing weight.

Serves 7/10
This score may change over time once I get a bit more used to playing with a 6 points HL racket and get some better balls rather than 'Tretorn Mini Boulders'. It was decent, just not quite as much power as I usually get on first serves but I could feel my 1st serves becoming heavier as the match went on.

Volleys ?/10
There wasn't much net play during the match, not enough to give it a meaningful score anyway.

Positive
Access to spin
Control and power in equal measures
Stable and maneuverable.

Negative
Some aspects of the balance might throw you if you're coming from a extremely HL racket like the RF97

Summary
I can't fault this racket on much just yet, I really didn't feel like anything that went wrong tonight was due to the racket.
 
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Blake Wilde

New User
So I just recently have been trying to find a replacement for my trusted Duel G 97 330. I tried out the RF97 and had a love/hate relationship with it. I loved the feel at the net and the touch around the net was possibly the best of any racquet I've ever played. I had some issues with the static weight from the baseline, which lead to some shots missing center and uncontrolled balls in terms of spin and pace.

I just finished my testing with the Gravity Pro after I got a recommendation from a friend to try it, and it is a strange racquet in the very best way. The 100in head gives you so much confidence from the back of the court, and combined with the 18x20 I felt I had significantly more control than the RF97. I felt both racquets were about level with each other in terms of power generated, which the mass of the RF doing the work, and the larger sweet-spot of the GP coming into play. I was trying to explain it to the people I was hitting with, that the GP feels like you're hitting with the confidence of a Babolat with large head, but with the accuracy of a racquet greater than my old Duel G.

Both racquets, I felt, were very similar in terms of results of the ball you produced, but they achieve that through drastically different ways. It really comes down to feel and what you like in a racquet.
 

Lorenn

Professional
I love my RF97 but I often (am forced to) play late at night and can feel the weight of it dragging me down in the second set, especially on serves.
Having played with and playing people who love their RF97...I almost always focus on trying to wear out anyone playing with a RF97. Great racquet but boy is it demanding both physically and mentally. If it was my main racquet I would have a Blade 98 18x20/Gravity Tour/Speed MP/Radical series 360+ or something similar as a backup for off days/third sets. /my current main racquet is a Gravity Pro, boy is it a easy racquet to use compared to a RF97.
 

pico

Professional
So I just recently have been trying to find a replacement for my trusted Duel G 97 330. I tried out the RF97 and had a love/hate relationship with it. I loved the feel at the net and the touch around the net was possibly the best of any racquet I've ever played. I had some issues with the static weight from the baseline, which lead to some shots missing center and uncontrolled balls in terms of spin and pace.

I just finished my testing with the Gravity Pro after I got a recommendation from a friend to try it, and it is a strange racquet in the very best way. The 100in head gives you so much confidence from the back of the court, and combined with the 18x20 I felt I had significantly more control than the RF97. I felt both racquets were about level with each other in terms of power generated, which the mass of the RF doing the work, and the larger sweet-spot of the GP coming into play. I was trying to explain it to the people I was hitting with, that the GP feels like you're hitting with the confidence of a Babolat with large head, but with the accuracy of a racquet greater than my old Duel G.

Both racquets, I felt, were very similar in terms of results of the ball you produced, but they achieve that through drastically different ways. It really comes down to feel and what you like in a racquet.
Did you find you needed to adjust to the launch angle?
 

Blake Wilde

New User
Did you find you needed to adjust to the launch angle?
So I didn't really notice that much a difference between the RF97 and GP in terms of launch angle. Coming from the Duel G, both were significantly higher, so there was some need for adjustment there. One of the best things I loved about the GP that I forgot to mention in my post above is that the amount of feed back you get from the frame is amazing. You can easily tell if you cut off your follow through to spin a roll angle vs really getting your body into one and flattening it out.

I would probably rank them in terms of highest launch to lowest.
1. RF97 - just barely
2. Gravity Pro
3. Duel G - significantly lower than both.
 

FIRETennis

Professional
Have you tried removing the leather grip on the RF97A and adding two overgrips or a very light weight base grip such as SkinFeel or Feather Thin?
This shaves off about 12-15g off the RF and makes it much faster imo.
I was very skeptical of "only 15g" and changing the balance but now it plays amazing and I have zero arm fatigue. Plow is still there. Feels much better than a stock PS97.
You're basically ending up with an unstrung 325-330g, 335-340SW, pro stock.
Comparable specs: Volkl C10 Pro (2019), Yonex VCORE PRO 97 (330), Wilson kSix One 95 (18x20), Prince Phantom 93P (18x20), Head Pro Tour 2.0, Prince Classic Graphite 107
 
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pico

Professional
Have you tried removing the leather grip on the RF97A and adding two overgrips or a very light weight base grip such as SkinFeel or Feather Thin?
This shaves off about 12-15g off the RF and makes it much faster imo.
I was very skeptical of "only 15g" and changing the balance but now it plays amazing and I have zero arm fatigue. Plow is still there. Feels much better than a stock PS97.
You're basically ending up with an unstrung 325-330g, 335-340SW, pro stock.
Comparable specs: Volkl C10 Pro (2019), Yonex VCORE PRO 97 (330), Wilson kSix One 95 (18x20), Prince Phantom 93P (18x20), Head Pro Tour 2.0, Prince Classic Graphite 107
I did something very similar. I took off the leather grip and put on a Kimony leather grip. With my overgrip, my RF97 is now at 353g. I played with it yesterday and it felt good till my string broke haha. So once I restring it, I am excited to try it. I think I really like the stiffness of it and the braided graphite material. The feedback is good. I have been playing with lower flex racquets the last year. I don't mind that either.
 

Fxanimator1

Hall of Fame
Have you tried removing the leather grip on the RF97A and adding two overgrips or a very light weight base grip such as SkinFeel or Feather Thin?
This shaves off about 12-15g off the RF and makes it much faster imo.
I was very skeptical of "only 15g" and changing the balance but now it plays amazing and I have zero arm fatigue. Plow is still there. Feels much better than a stock PS97.
You're basically ending up with an unstrung 325-330g, 335-340SW, pro stock.
Comparable specs: Volkl C10 Pro (2019), Yonex VCORE PRO 97 (330), Wilson kSix One 95 (18x20), Prince Phantom 93P (18x20), Head Pro Tour 2.0, Prince Classic Graphite 107
Exactly what I did on the new V13 RF's.
I just didn't like the V13 Pro Staff's new string pattern at all, so RF's it was for me.
 
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