RF's Uniqlo kits

curtstead

Rookie
So from what I've seen for Fed's return at Doha, Uniqlo is only selling the top in both green and white (still no RF logo), and two color variations of the RF hat. No wristbands, shorts, or socks this time, which is a change. Plus per usual, still no head tie and warm up jacket.

I don't understand this for the life of me. Is there something I'm not getting? I actually like Uniqlo's tennis gear a lot, especially the pricing. This just seems like such a waste for signing RF for $300 million. If this has been discussed already then feel free to lock the thread. I'm just disappointed as both a Fed fan who wants to buy his gear, and as someone who actually likes Uniqlo's tennis apparel. Just interested in other thoughts here.
 
Uniqlo's policies have been discussed many times around here:


As you can see, plenty of people with differing opinions. Overall the situation is that Uniqlo is not all that interested in churning out collection after collection for the Federer fanbase. They are not a sports apparel company, their focus is elsewhere, and so they use their brand ambassador for their goals and not to satisfy the tennis population. They do do limited releases around each Major, if Federer plays, but that is about it. While they leave some demand uncovered, they also spare significant resources by not getting buried in overstocks as most other sports apparel brands do.

On top of that I found that a lot of people are just talking: they swear they will get this or that, and when the time comes to put their money where their mouth is they disappear with various excuses. I am not saying that most people are like that, but I have seen several such examples around here (and here it is a small community). As I have said before, even if it is a pity, if one can't get something, the variety is so big that it is almost harder to choose what not to get, than what to get.

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curtstead

Rookie
Uniqlo's policies have been discussed many times around here:


As you can see, plenty of people with differing opinions. Overall the situation is that Uniqlo is not all that interested in churning out collection after collection for the Federer fanbase. They are not a sports apparel company, their focus is elsewhere, and so they use their brand ambassador for their goals and not to satisfy the tennis population. They do do limited releases around each Major, if Federer plays, but that is about it. While they leave some demand uncovered, they also spare significant resources by not getting buried in overstocks as most other sports apparel brands do.

On top of that I found that a lot of people are just talking: they swear they will get this or that, and when the time comes to put their money where their mouth is they disappear with various excuses. I am not saying that most people are like that, but I have seen several such examples around here (and here it is a small community). As I have said before, even if it is a pity, if one can't get something, the variety is so big that it is almost harder to choose what not to get, than what to get.

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Pretty fair response, I'd say. I could be one of the few buying all pieces of each kit, as I've been doing it since the 2019 FO. It's certainly possible that I could be in a large minority. Still frustrating, none the less.
 
Pretty fair response, I'd say. I could be one of the few buying all pieces of each kit, as I've been doing it since the 2019 FO. It's certainly possible that I could be in a large minority. Still frustrating, none the less.
You are definitely one of the few, and frankly, one has to be a pretty big fan to buy everything (there is one guy here who has a pretty extensive Uniqlo collection, including jackets etc, no idea where he buys them). As all other companies, their designs are hit and miss. I have liked a few and bought actually only one full kit for myself, and separate items in various quantities from other kits here and there. Until now I have bought the RG 2019 full kit, shorts from the Wimbledon collection and socks wristbands etc from Fed's and Nishi's various outfits. From that collection I will be buying the white cap, if available and the wristbands, but I guess they won't be.

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stefmeister

Rookie
You are definitely one of the few, and frankly, one has to be a pretty big fan to buy everything (there is one guy here who has a pretty extensive Uniqlo collection, including jackets etc, no idea where he buys them). As all other companies, their designs are hit and miss. I have liked a few and bought actually only one full kit for myself, and separate items in various quantities from other kits here and there. Until now I have bought the RG 2019 full kit, shorts from the Wimbledon collection and socks wristbands etc from Fed's and Nishi's various outfits. From that collection I will be buying the white cap, if available and the wristbands, but I guess they won't be.

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no1e right?
 
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Deleted member 22147

Guest
Do average joes really buy every kit that's released?
 

curtstead

Rookie
Do average joes really buy every kit that's released?
Well until now, I’ve been buying the shorts and tops at $39 each, wristbands for like $15, and socks for I think $15-$20. It’s only been a bit over $100 four times a year around each slam.
I’m not saying it’s cheap, but comparing that to buying a full Nadal kit from Nike, it’s basically half the cost, if not less.

Again, based on responses, it sounds like I am in the vast minority. However, to answer your question, some avg joes do buy every kit, yes. Probably rare tho. For all I know, I’m one of like five, lol.
 
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Deleted member 22147

Guest
Well until now, I’ve been buying the shorts and tops at $39 each, wristbands for like $15, and socks for I think $15-$20. It’s only been a bit over $100 four times a year around each slam.
I’m not saying it’s cheap, but comparing that to buying a full Nadal kit from Nike, it’s basically half the cost, if not less.

Again, based on responses, it sounds like I am in the vast minority. However, to answer your question, some avg joes do buy every kit, yes. Probably rare tho. For all I know, I’m one of like five, lol.
Well, that isn't that bad. I thought it would cost more. It certainly costs less if you are in the US, it seems. The kits will be good to keep for the future, if you like collecting stuff. I have some old adidas tops from 2004 and 2006.
 

STRONGSTYLE

Rookie
Uniqlo's policies have been discussed many times around here:


As you can see, plenty of people with differing opinions. Overall the situation is that Uniqlo is not all that interested in churning out collection after collection for the Federer fanbase. They are not a sports apparel company, their focus is elsewhere, and so they use their brand ambassador for their goals and not to satisfy the tennis population. They do do limited releases around each Major, if Federer plays, but that is about it. While they leave some demand uncovered, they also spare significant resources by not getting buried in overstocks as most other sports apparel brands do.

On top of that I found that a lot of people are just talking: they swear they will get this or that, and when the time comes to put their money where their mouth is they disappear with various excuses. I am not saying that most people are like that, but I have seen several such examples around here (and here it is a small community). As I have said before, even if it is a pity, if one can't get something, the variety is so big that it is almost harder to choose what not to get, than what to get.

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So what is their goal or focus with this deal, to make uniqlo a household name? Picking a athlete whose clothing you can't buy seems like a poor choice for that, it hasn't at all made me interested in buying the rest of their clothing. It's just so baffling, they spend 30 million a year for a billboard and people aren't even allowed to buy what is on the billboard. They are essentially cutting off their nose. If Dan Evans can sell a few uniqlo shirts, imagine what Federer could do.
 
So what is their goal or focus with this deal, to make uniqlo a household name? Picking a athlete whose clothing you can't buy seems like a poor choice for that, it hasn't at all made me interested in buying the rest of their clothing. It's just so baffling, they spend 30 million a year for a billboard and people aren't even allowed to buy what is on the billboard. They are essentially cutting off their nose. If Dan Evans can sell a few uniqlo shirts, imagine what Federer could do.
I can only guess what their goal is, but from what I have seen from the brand, they focus on their fast mode retail business. Federer's appeal is long well beyond that of his sport: he is a global icon, and a household name outside of tennis, so only the tennis fans see him as a sports figure.

On the contrary, on the billboard there is the Uniqlo logo, and people can buy plenty of stuff from Uniqlo.

As for what they can or cannot do, I have explained at length at least my views on that matter, but suffice to say, Uniqlo doesn't employ the strategy of multiple levels of retail presence like the sports giants in the apparel industry do. Nike, Adidas etc do these multiple levels: brand stores > big retail chains > sports shops > brand outlets > general outlets > bulk low budged outlets. Uniqlo operates only their brand stores. It is a conservative strategy in line with their philosophy. It makes them different and creates their own customer base. People that are used to the strategy of the names like Nike or Adidas will not understand it, but Uniqlo is not trying to be Nike or Adidas - that is their brand strength. It is a matter of philosophy of doing business.

I was not very aware of the brand until Federer signed them. I am just not their target group, but after they signed him I looked into what they do, and bought not insignificant amount of their products (as units anyway: for 2 years more than 50 separate units). They will not win anyone used to high end stuff, but their price quality ratio certainly is up there with the best.

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brian anderson

Semi-Pro
so now if u don’t post about the kit then it’s assumed u didn’t buy it? wow. sorry i’m too busy with work, wife, kids and playing to post about every stupid shirt shorts or shoes i buy; thank god
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
would love to have one of those jackets, I know that.
Are you talking about Uniqlo Djokovic's jackets or Federer Uniqlo jackets? I collected all of Novak's Uniqlo jackets when it was selling by Djokovic's foundation, and those are my favorites. I must have over 200 shorts, shirts, jackets from Djokovic Uniqlo and probably 50 from Federer Uniqlo. I feel RF Uniqlo jacket is a knock off of the old Djokovic's jacket.






My favorite jacket at the moment is the Lacoste jacket:



One of my relatives is in the clothing business in Asia and they can get a blank jacket with stripes & Lacoste quality, and just slap the Uniqlo Logo with the RF on the jacket and it becomes a beautiful jacket. They make those jackets and give them to me for personal use.

Same thing with the hat. They get a micro fiber hat and slap on the smaller RF-20 logo on the left front side of the hat, the Uniqlo logo on the right front side of the hat; Uniqlo logo in the back of the hat. It is a really cool hat.

I wear both the jackets and hat playing golf and quite a few people asked me where they can purchase them, LOL....
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
Uniqlo did so much better in regards to production availability with Novak compared to Roger.
I have to disagree with you on this. The Uniqlo production availability for Novak was the same as Federer when Novak was under contract with Uniqlo. There are two differences to keep in mind:

1- Djokovic's foundation also sold Djokovic Uniqlo brand but it also added the "Peugeot" logo to the shirt and jacket. However, there were plenty of Uniqlo items available on Djokovic's foundation website,

2- Lot more Federer fan than Djokovic fan. Uniqlo probably produces the same quantity amount for both Novak and Federer but since there are more Fed fan than Novak fan, you have a demand, not supply problem,

I recall when Novak was under Uniqlo brand, I could purchase Novak uniqlo items anytime on Uniqlo website, and also Novak foundation website. I have never heard of lack of availability for Novak Uniqlo.

Not with Federer under Uniqlo.
 

brinkeguthrie

Professional
That Novak ad says it all. Have a complete line of RF logo stuff available year round; jacket, pants, all of it. Not just one measly shirt and a cap around Slams or in this case, for his return to action. Now you can't even get shorts or socks? OK. Got it.
 
That Novak ad says it all. Have a complete line of RF logo stuff available year round; jacket, pants, all of it. Not just one measly shirt and a cap around Slams or in this case, for his return to action. Now you can't even get shorts or socks? OK. Got it.
They still won't produce apparel in size XXL, even if they did a full line, so you shouldn't worry about that.

8-B
 

volleynets

Hall of Fame
Well until now, I’ve been buying the shorts and tops at $39 each, wristbands for like $15, and socks for I think $15-$20. It’s only been a bit over $100 four times a year around each slam.
I’m not saying it’s cheap, but comparing that to buying a full Nadal kit from Nike, it’s basically half the cost, if not less.

Again, based on responses, it sounds like I am in the vast minority. However, to answer your question, some avg joes do buy every kit, yes. Probably rare tho. For all I know, I’m one of like five, lol.
I think a lot of fans would buy them like they did with his Nike gear. And the shirts being$40 instead of Nike $100 are a steal. But Uniqlo doesn't seem interested in the sales. Look how fast rf hats went. I've personally seem them out in public at tennis tournaments and know people who bought one or more of every color to stock up.
 
I have to disagree with you on this. The Uniqlo production availability for Novak was the same as Federer when Novak was under contract with Uniqlo. There are two differences to keep in mind:

1- Djokovic's foundation also sold Djokovic Uniqlo brand but it also added the "Peugeot" logo to the shirt and jacket. However, there were plenty of Uniqlo items available on Djokovic's foundation website,

2- Lot more Federer fan than Djokovic fan. Uniqlo probably produces the same quantity amount for both Novak and Federer but since there are more Fed fan than Novak fan, you have a demand, not supply problem,

I recall when Novak was under Uniqlo brand, I could purchase Novak uniqlo items anytime on Uniqlo website, and also Novak foundation website. I have never heard of lack of availability for Novak Uniqlo.

Not with Federer under Uniqlo.
That has not been my experience. On two separate occasions I personally saw a whole rack of Uniqlo Federer line just standing in a Uniqlo physical store (One in Strasbourg and one in Stuttgart). In Strasbourg it was the RG 2019 line polos from XS to M in both colour ways , and in Stuttgart Wimbledon 2019 polos in S and M and shorts from S to L.

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jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Not wanting to reopen that particular can o' worms, but Roger's Uniqlo RG 2019 range was a trainwreck that even diehard Fedophiles baulked at.
The full unloved range was also available in Melbourne for quite some time.
 

MasterZeb

Hall of Fame
U.K. too. Cream hat ordered. Will wait to see how the shorts look in the flesh before pulling the trigger
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
UniQlo is garbage clothing. I've got a jacket and it's the cheapest POS i've ever owned.
That's a very harsh thing to say. Uniqlo produces good quality clothing at very reasonable price.

I love both Uniqlo and Lacoste, especially the Djokovic's Uniqlo, not so much with Federer Uniqlo but I still buy them as gifts for my friends and colleague. I wish Uniqlo made the micro fiber hat with the RF and Uniqlo logo, instead of cotton hat. Uniqlo used to produce micro fiber hat when Novak was under the sponsorship.
 

struggle

Legend
That's a very harsh thing to say. Uniqlo produces good quality clothing at very reasonable price.

I love both Uniqlo and Lacoste, especially the Djokovic's Uniqlo, not so much with Federer Uniqlo but I still buy them as gifts for my friends and colleague. I wish Uniqlo made the micro fiber hat with the RF and Uniqlo logo, instead of cotton hat. Uniqlo used to produce micro fiber hat when Novak was under the sponsorship.
Not harsh at all. It's WalMart quality at best. Glad you like it.

Also cool that buy things you don't like for your mates. Weird, no?
 
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bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
Not harsh at all. It's WalMart quality at best. Glad you like it.

Also cool that buy things you don't like for your mates. Weird, no?
Well, Novak's Uniqlo new jacket goes for $200+ USD on **** and in high demand, Walmart quality for $200+ USD?

Just because I don't like the new Fed lines doesn't mean others don't like them either. The hat is already sold out on US site. Lots of people like them.
 

StringGuruMRT

Semi-Pro
On top of that I found that a lot of people are just talking: they swear they will get this or that, and when the time comes to put their money where their mouth is they disappear with various excuses. I am not saying that most people are like that, but I have seen several such examples around here (and here it is a small community). As I have said before, even if it is a pity, if one can't get something, the variety is so big that it is almost harder to choose what not to get, than what to get.

:cool:
Well judging by the fact that whenever Uniqlo releases a Fed line, all of the popular sizes are gone almost immediately, I'm not sure if putting their money where there mouth is applies... Same to be said with the release of his On casual shoe. I think there are more than enough fanboys (in the group and in general) to support a more complete line, with more than minimal availability.
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
Well judging by the fact that whenever Uniqlo releases a Fed line, all of the popular sizes are gone almost immediately, I'm not sure if putting their money where there mouth is applies... Same to be said with the release of his On casual shoe. I think there are more than enough fanboys (in the group and in general) to support a more complete line, with more than minimal availability.
You might be onto something here. Look like Fed's merchandise is much more in deman in Novak with Uniqlo:

That was not the case when Djokovic was sponsored by Uniqlo. I remembered in 2015 and 2016, a lot of Djokovic's Uniqlo went at least 50% off. I remembered getting this Djokovic's Uniqlo shirt for $9.90 around Christmas 2015 (the originally price was like $39.90):




then again in 2016, around christmas, I got this 2016 Olympic shirt below for $4.90, non sale price was $39.90:

 

curtstead

Rookie
Thats a massive shame, was already looking forward to the green shorts and wirstbands aswell ...
As was I. The shorts seemed to be selling well based on previous releases, as popular sizes sold out almost as quickly as the shirts did. I legitimately do not understand this.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Uniqlo has to learn how to tone down that huge red square logo somewhat as it can be an eyesore on most designs.
 
Well judging by the fact that whenever Uniqlo releases a Fed line, all of the popular sizes are gone almost immediately, I'm not sure if putting their money where there mouth is applies... Same to be said with the release of his On casual shoe. I think there are more than enough fanboys (in the group and in general) to support a more complete line, with more than minimal availability.
Well, the people that are really interested know when Fed's line releases. It is a matter of whether they really want to get something or not. Apparently they don't. Where I am both shirts and both caps are available. The shirts in all popular sizes. Right now.

I think that you haven't been following the ON shoes offerings: both the ON the Roger Center Court, and ON Roger Advantage offerings are in stock and available right now too.

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bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
Well, the people that are really interested know when Fed's line releases. It is a matter of whether they really want to get something or not. Apparently they don't. Where I am both shirts and both caps are available. The shirts in all popular sizes. Right now.

I think that you haven't been following the ON shoes offerings: both the ON the Roger Center Court, and ON Roger Advantage offerings are in stock and available right now too.

:cool:

Are you in the US or UK? In the US, hat and M/L size shirts were out of stock shortly after 10am ET.
 
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