RG 2014 SF : Nadal (1) vs Murray (7)

Who is going to win this SF?

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The dream final is on!

Vamos!

And to the haters I don't remember Djokovic getting that cheer that Rafa just got from his French.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
Nadal was just way too good chico. Give him credit where it's due.
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Sorry but I didn't see it. I just saw pathetic Murray impersonator who was sending short balls to Nadal's FH the whole match, begging to be slaughtered.
He didn't even try to fight or to change something. Like he was there just to give forehand practice to Nadal. Terrible.
 
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Chico said:
Sorry but I didn't see it. I just saw pathetic Murray impersonator who was sending short balls to Nadal's FH the whole match, begging to be slaughtered.
He didn't even try to fight or to change something. Terrible.
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You mean he was sending short balls WHEN he didn't net them. Murray didn't want to win today, he didn't even care.
 
Sorry for the interruption....back to the match already predicted Djoker Vs Nadal. Aint gonna be easy for Nadal no matter how much fan boys wish it to be~!
 
Wow! Bookies who have had Novak as favourite for the title have changed their odd's completely! Rafa now odds on favourite.
 
Ralph said:
I tell you one thing thought that will make a difference of Sunday....

Nadal fears Novak, regardless of his own ability and record here.

He doesn't fear Murray, even though he respects him.

On a point here and a point there, it won't be as easy as it was today yet he's likely to bag no.9.
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Roger that. See post match interview, he was conscious about his 0-4 and 0-7 streaks.
 
Ralph said:
I tell you one thing thought that will make a difference of Sunday....

Nadal fears Novak, regardless of his own ability and record here.

He doesn't fear Murray, even though he respects him.

On a point here and a point there, it won't be as easy as it was today yet he's likely to bag no.9.
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That might prove to be the difference in the end. But Novak will start nervous and lose the first set. He needs to reverse that and win the first set to entertain thoughts of a victory.
 
Nadal was playing awesome, hitting so many winners and shots on the lines, part of it was because Murray just wasn't doing anything with his shots, Nadal was probably close to his A game and Murray was somewhere at his C+ game it looked, Probably not the best way to set up his encounter with Novak
 
Magnus said:
You mean he was sending short balls WHEN he didn't net them. Murray didn't want to win today, he didn't even care.
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Yea Murray's short FHs were landing on the service line. Nadal took those on his FH and hit I/O FHs. That was it.
 
monfed said:
That might prove to be the difference in the end. But Novak will start nervous and lose the first set. He needs to reverse that and win the first set to entertain thoughts of a victory.
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I realised the other day that the last time Djokovic won the 1st set in a slam final was the US Open in 2011! :shock:
 
Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
I tell you one thing thought that will make a difference of Sunday....

Nadal fears Novak, regardless of his own ability and record here.

He doesn't fear Murray, even though he respects him.

On a point here and a point there, it won't be as easy as it was today yet he's likely to bag no.9
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monfed said:
That might prove to be the difference in the end. But Novak will start nervous and lose the first set. He needs to reverse that and win the first set to entertain thoughts of a victory.
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But Djokovic has never beat Nadal at the FO. How fearful could Nadal be? Nadal has the mental edge there not Djokovic.
 
I hate to admit it you know but what NADALRECORD kept saying before RG started about Nadal saving his DTL forehand for the slams was true all along. :sad:
 
Chico said:
Sorry but I didn't see it. I just saw pathetic Murray impersonator who was sending short balls to Nadal's FH the whole match, begging to be slaughtered.
He didn't even try to fight or to change something. Like he was there just to give forehand practice to Nadal. Terrible.
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Magnus said:
Murray played the worst match I've seen him play, ever
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It was certainly the worst match he has ever played against Nadal in a Slam!
Overall, it was on a par with the 1,2 beatdown he got from Rafa in the final of 2009 IW.

I'll be interested to hear what Murray has to say about why he just couldn't perform today.

But Rafa is certainly looking ominously good for the final on Sunday!
 
NatF said:
I feel Djokovic will get at best a set on Sunday.
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I think people are overreacting here honestly. Djokovic may lose, but barring something catastrophic like injury, it should be MUCH more competitive than anything Nadal has faced in this tournament.

Did Nadal play well? Absolutely, positively yes, and it didn't really matter how Murray played he wasn't coming close to winning. That said, I don't think people deserve to be branded as "haters" (not saying that anyone here is doing that) for pointing out that Murray didn't play that well, and neither did Ferrer. And that probably had something to do with Nadal looking in great form.

Ferrer himself even admitted that he quit against Nadal because he knew he couldn't win.

We've seen this before with Nadal and Federer. Everybody swoons over Federer if he comes into a match with Nadal in good/great form and thinks he can keep it up and beat Nadal but then Nadal makes him play like crap.

I know, I know, it is not exactly the same scenario given that Nadal leads the H2H and Djokovic has never beaten him at RG, but there is no way Nadal will look that good against Novak, and there is a high likelihood that Nadal will not win 6-3 6-2 6-1. Novak is simply a much better clay courter than Murray or Ferrer and has more belief against Nadal. All I'm saying is, I really think people are overreacting here with respect to Nadal's form.

It is one match for all the marbles. When these 2 play you can throw recent form out the window. It will just come down to who is better on Sunday.

If I was to point to one thing that might be a small predictor it's recent history. For example, Novak had his run of 7, then Nadal won 3 in a row. Then Novak won MC last year, but Nadal won the next 3 matches after that. Now Novak is on a run of 4.
 
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cc0509 said:
But Djokovic has never beat Nadal at the FO. How fearful could Nadal be? Nadal has the mental edge there not Djokovic.
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Yes, he's never beaten him at the French. But do you think he wasn't fearing him at the point that Novak touched the net in last year's semi? You bet he was. He was playing a 5th set against a guy who had beaten him in the final 3 other slams...

I think Nadal will do it on Sunday, although I hope (and believe) Novak doesn't do what both Ferrer and Murray did - give up early on. Novak knows it takes a moment to crack that wall even if he's two sets down against him. Novak ain't giving up. See the AO final for proof of that.

Yes, Nadal needed this for confidence, but to be honest, both Ferrer and Murray put up NO resistance when it mattered. One set from Ferrer when Nadal was misfiring wasn't enough of a test.
 
cc0509 said:
But Djokovic has never beat Nadal at the FO. How fearful could Nadal be? Nadal has the mental edge there not Djokovic.
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The Rome 14 F is the latest memory so Nole will think that Nadal will crack if he keeps it close for the duration of the match. But then again I'm talking to a Djokovic hater so it's a waste of time.

I do think that IF Nole's gonna win this match, he'll have to break Nadal on serve to clinch it. I don't think Nole will serve it out if he's in a winning position like 5-4 of the 5th/4th set unless he's got a double break.
 
Ralph said:
Yes, he's never beaten him at the French. But do you think he wasn't fearing him at the point that Novak touched the net in last year's semi? You bet he was. He was playing a 5th set against a guy who had beaten him in the final 3 other slams...

I think Nadal will do it on Sunday, although I hope (and believe) Novak doesn't do what both Ferrer and Murray did - give up early on. Novak knows it takes a moment to crack that wall even if he's two sets down against him. Novak ain't giving up. See the AO final for proof of that.

Yes, Nadal needed this for confidence, but to be honest, both Ferrer and Murray put up NO resistance when it mattered. One set from Ferrer when Nadal was misfiring wasn't enough of a test.
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Seems somebody else agrees with me.
 
Ralph said:
Yes, he's never beaten him at the French. But do you think he wasn't fearing him at the point that Novak touched the net in last year's semi? You bet he was. He was playing a 5th set against a guy who had beaten him in the final 3 other slams...

I think Nadal will do it on Sunday, although I hope (and believe) Novak doesn't do what both Ferrer and Murray did - give up early on. Novak knows it takes a moment to crack that wall even if he's two sets down against him. Novak ain't giving up. See the AO final for proof of that.

Yes, Nadal needed this for confidence, but to be honest, both Ferrer and Murray put up NO resistance when it mattered. One set from Ferrer when Nadal was misfiring wasn't enough of a test.
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Of course he fears Djokovic more than he does any other player but at the same time I think Nadal likes the challenge and he can be a little more confident at the FO because he knows only one man has defeated him there before. That is a strong record to fall back on. No doubt Djokovic can make it close but can he go all the way? I am not so sure. Hopefully it will be a competitive contest.
 
Sure, Murray just didn't show up today and many of us are understandably disappointed. I know I am. But Rafa is clearly coming into his peak form at just the right time at the tournament that is most precious to him.

But I think I should remind you that before we all get on Andy's case for playing such a poor semi-final, let's remember that most people on here didn't even think he could get past the first week! In the last 13 Slams he has played, he has never failed to make the quarter-finals and has made 5 finals and 5 other semi-finals.

Clay will always be his worst surface but he still regularly makes it deep into the 2nd week at Roland Garros just as he does at at the other 3 Slams! Messrs Nadal and Federer can't quite say as much, can they? :cool:
 
Murray fans seem to be happy with the result. All aboard the Nadul bandwagon for the final,Muzzards? :lol:
 
monfed said:
The Rome 14 F is the latest memory so Nole will think that Nadal will crack if he keeps it close for the duration of the match. But then again I'm talking to a Djokovic hater so it's a waste of time.

I do think that IF Nole's gonna win this match, he'll have to break Nadal on serve to clinch it. I don't think Nole will serve it out if he's in a winning position like 5-4 of the 5th/4th set unless he's got a double break.
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But the last FO memory for Djokovic was a disappointing loss. Nadal will rely on this memory for Djokovic to crack. Works both ways.

I don't hate Djokovic at all and I don't hate Nadal so maybe that makes me a little more objective than you? ;)
 
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