RG 2019: Thiem's most difficult draw

#4
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
Richard Gasquet
Hubert Hurkacz
Fernando Verdasco
Karen Khachanov
Novak Djokovic
Rafael Nadal

The top 5 guys on the list he's never beaten.
 

Tennis_Hands

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#13
So, is it a case of any draw being too easy for Thiem to be bothered to list it, or lacking knowledge of what is up, so that it is dangerous to list anything at all?

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Tennis_Hands

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#15
My prediction came on the basis of two questions:

1) who is the guy who is threatening the marquee (Nadal vs Djokovic) match up at RG?

Answer: Thiem

2) how can they create the most difficult obstacles in front of the said player, so that

1) if he is going to spoil the party the organisers get a fair share of the blockbusters to compensate for the lost said marquee match up?
2) arriving possibly tired guarantees that he is in disadvantage when he plays them

4 of the final potential 4 of his late round opponents are in his draw as predicted.

Schwartzman is replaced by Monfils as a R4 opponent, who, we all can agree, is a dangerous opponent, playing in front of his home public and having a good year so far.

His R3 is a very competent clay court player who just went from the Qualies to the final of Estoril Open, who has won two clay court tournaments this year, and has beaten several top players on the surface also this year (wins vs Cilic, Tiafoe) and an 18-4 W-L record on clay for 2019.

The R1/R2 opponents I picked on the basis of who would the potential early round dark horses be. Munar is in the Djokovic's quarter, so his candidature was the right idea, as his early round potential is used towards making the life of a Nadal opponent difficult still and Garin is in no man's land, but very far from all the favourites, as though someone was careful to not get accused of, you know, rigging up the draws in Nadal's favour. Garin is a Nadal protege, so placing him directly vs Nadal's opponents might have been a little too obvious, and they couldn't have him against Nadal, if he was to have easy early rounds, so landing in no man's land seems to satisfy other requirements.

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My prediction came on the basis of two questions:

1) who is the guy who is threatening the marquee (Nadal vs Djokovic) match up at RG?

Answer: Thiem

2) how can they create the most difficult obstacles in front of the said player, so that

1) if is going to spoil the party the organisers get a fair share of the blockbusters to compensate for the lost said marquee match up?
2) arriving possibly tired guarantees that he is in disadvantage when he plays them

4 of the final potential 4 of his late round opponents are in his draw as predicted.

Schwartzman is replaced by Monfils as a R4 opponent, who, we all can agree, is a dangerous opponent, playing in front of his home public and having a good year so far.

Hs R3 is a very competent clay court player who just went from the Qualies to the final of Estoril Open, who has won two clay tournaments this year, and has beaten several top players on the surface also this year (wins vs Cilic, Tiafoe) and an 18-4 W-L record on clay for 2019.

The R1/R2 opponents I picked on the basis of who would the potential early round dark horses be. Munar is in the Djokovic's quarter, so his candidature was the right idea, as his early round potential is used towards making the life of a Nadal opponent difficult still and Garin is in no man's land, but very far from all the favourites, as though someone was careful to not get accused of, you know, rigging up the draws in Nadal's favour. Garin is a Nadal protege, so placing him directly vs Nadal's opponents might have been a little too obvious, and they couldn't have him against Nadal, if he was to have easy early rounds, so landing in no man's land seems to satisfy other requirements.

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Unfortunately, we all saw this coming. Nadal has had too much influence over the ATP and ITF that it's not even funny anymore. They are catering to his every need just because he happens to be their biggest cash cow. They don't even pretend to be fair anymore. As a fan, I feel cheated by ATP and ITF. :(
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
#17
Unfortunately, we all saw this coming. Nadal has had too much influence over the ATP and ITF that it's not even funny anymore. They are catering to his every need just because he happens to be their biggest cash cow. They don't even pretend to be fair anymore. As a fan, I feel cheated by ATP and ITF. :(
At this point the challenge and the fun is to try to guess what they will do next. It is sometimes much more interesting than the actual tournament, which is sad, but cannot be helped.

Also, the complaints about the new gens not beating the top guys are put in a context; when they play against a system that is doing everything to ensure that the top players have every possible advantage, it is much more difficult to have sudden success.

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