Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by batz, May 22, 2009.
Novak is in Fed's half.
Looks like the final this year could be Nadal v Djokovic then.
Mind you Fed seems to raise his game in slams, so if Fed/Joker were to meet in the semi it would be an awesome game.
So Djokovic is in Federer's half for the 5th time in the last 6 slams?
tough draw for Fed.
Hope this'll shut up some lost souls who go on about conspiracy theories ...
yep..and funnily its the *******s who keep on blabbering like broken records about anti-Nadal conspiracies.
Fed still has Roddick though.
Nadal's potential opponents:
Q / Gremelmayr or Hewitt / Söderling / Wawrinka or Verdasco / Gonzalez or Murray / Federer or Djokovic
Federer's potential opponents:
Martin / Mathieu / Haas or Chardy / Monfils or Roddick or some draw-filler / Djokovic / Nadal
One can only hope...
OMG!!! have to wait forever to see the entire draw! Anyway looks like a tough draw for Fed.
Wow Gaston gets a wild card! Hopes he does well and pass the 1st round.
Boy, I saw Do not trust the hope.
Wow seriously? That is one easy draw for Nadal.. Federer definitely has a much harder draw.
Here's the complete draw
 NADAL, Rafael ESP v [Q]
KUNITSYN, Igor RUS v GABASHVILI, Teimuraz RUS
GREMELMAYR, Denis GER v GOLUBEV, Andrey KAZ
HEWITT, Lleyton AUS v  KARLOVIC, Ivo CRO
 SODERLING, Robin SWE v KIM, Kevin USA
ISTOMIN, Denis UZB v [Q]
[Q] v KIEFER, Nicolas GER
GIL, Frederico POR v  FERRER, David ESP
 DAVYDENKO, Nikolay RUS v KOUBEK, Stefan AUT
JUNQUEIRA, Diego ARG v CAPDEVILLE, Paul CHI
MASSU, Nicolas CHI v KOELLERER, Daniel AUT
DEVILDER, Nicolas FRA v  WAWRINKA, Stanislas SUI
 ALMAGRO, Nicolas ESP v CALLERI, Agustin ARG
GULBIS, Ernests LAT v QUERREY, Sam USA
[Q] v PETZSCHNER, Philipp GER
SERRA, Florent FRA v  VERDASCO, Fernando ESP
 MURRAY, Andy GBR v CHELA, Juan Ignacio ARG
ZVEREV, Mischa GER v STARACE, Potito ITA
TIPSAREVIC, Janko SRB v MONTANES, Albert ESP
[Q] v  LOPEZ, Feliciano ESP
 STEPANEK, Radek CZE v [WC] GAUDIO, Gaston ARG
LU, Yen-Hsun TPE v [Q]
SELA, Dudi ISR v [Q]
HERNYCH, Jan CZE v  CILIC, Marin CRO
 GONZALEZ, Fernando CHI v [Q]
[Q] v VLIEGEN, Kristof BEL
GRANOLLERS, Marcel ESP v [WC] OUANNA, Josselin FRA
[WC] SIDORENKO, Alexandre FRA v  SAFIN, Marat RUS
 HANESCU, Victor ROU v DARCIS, Steve BEL
YOUZHNY, Mikhail RUS v MULLER, Gilles LUX
[Q] v KENDRICK, Robert USA
ODESNIK, Wayne USA v  SIMON, Gilles FRA
 DEL POTRO, Juan Martin ARG v LLODRA, Michael FRA
TROICKI, Viktor SRB v [Q]
BELLUCCI, Thomaz BRA v VASSALLO ARGUELLO, Martin ARG
[Q] v  ANDREEV, Igor RUS
 TURSUNOV, Dmitry RUS v CLEMENT, Arnaud FRA
SANTORO, Fabrice FRA v ROCHUS, Christophe BEL
BAGHDATIS, Marcos CYP v MONACO, Juan ARG
BENNETEAU, Julien FRA v  TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried FRA
 ROBREDO, Tommy ESP v [WC] MANNARINO, Adrian FRA
KOROLEV, Evgeny RUS v GIMENO-TRAVER, Daniel ESP
GARCIA-LOPEZ, Guillermo ESP v SEPPI, Andreas ITA
GONZALEZ, Maximo ARG v  FISH, Mardy USA
 KOHLSCHREIBER, Philipp GER v [WC] TOMIC, Bernard AUS
FERRERO, Juan Carlos ESP v LJUBICIC, Ivan CRO
DABUL, Brian ARG v [Q]
LAPENTTI, Nicolas ECU v  DJOKOVIC, Novak SRB
 RODDICK, Andy USA v [WC] JOUAN, Romain FRA
HERNANDEZ, Oscar ESP v MINAR, Ivo CZE
NAVARRO, Ivan ESP v BECK, Andreas GER
GICQUEL, Marc FRA v  SCHUETTLER, Rainer GER
 MELZER, Jurgen AUT v ROITMAN, Sergio ARG
[WC] RUFIN, Guillaume FRA v SCHWANK, Eduardo ARG
[Q] v [Q]
REYNOLDS, Bobby USA v  MONFILS, Gael FRA
 BLAKE, James USA v [Q]
PAVEL, Andrei ROU v HAAS, Tommy GER
PHAU, Bjorn GER v CHARDY, Jeremy FRA
BOLELLI, Simone ITA v  BERDYCH, Tomas CZE
 MATHIEU, Paul-Henri FRA v [WC] RECOUDERC, Laurent FRA
GINEPRI, Robby USA v ANDUJAR, Pablo ESP
ACASUSO, Jose ARG v [Q]
MARTIN, Alberto ESP v  FEDERER, Roger SUI
OTOH what a cakewalk of a draw Nadal has...This is a conspiracy against Federer!! :lol:
Federer should cruise to the QF where i think hell meet Monfils(Although the top seed is Roddick - yea right).
Nadal will potentially meet Ferrer in the 4th and Verdasco in the QF.
Dont know about a "MUCH HARDER DRAW" for fed,but i expect nothing will deny us the Djokovic - Federer SF clash.
LMAO!! Yeah no question about that! Fed will be tired if he gets to Nadal in the finals... :lol:
Why does 1st seed always play 3rd and 2nd always play 4th Obviously rigged that Djok is playing Fed and giving Nadal a cakewalk draw aswell.
I wonder if any draw is tough for Nadal at RG...
But really I'm starting to doubt peoples' education on this site.Every GS there has to be someone crying conspiracy!:lol:
Mostly *********s :roll:
Nadal was on Murray's side in Australia.
The only good thing about the draw is that Djokovic is in Fed's half.
Feds quarter is by far the easiest out of top 4. Why I am not surpried at all to see Roddick and Blake there.
Plus injured Monfils, Scheuttler, ...
Yet another tournament where Federer gets a joke cakewalk of a quarter.
Djokovic's and Nadal's quarters are quite hard OTOH. Djokovic has in form Ljubicic, Monaco, DelPotro, plus Lapentti in the first round. Nadal's quarter is quite hard too with Verdasco, Ferrer, Davydenko, Wawrinka, ...
Murray quarter is second easiest after Federer's. The only decent opponent there is Gonzo.
Monaco could reach QF, there he has a (very slim) chance to grind down Djokovic. If he wins the first set this slim chance could get pretty big.
Chela v Murray, Hewitt v Karlovic, Ljubicic v Ferrero are the first round matches i'm looking foward to
Would be interesting to see how Tomic and Guadio will go
i think overall nadal's side of the draw is slightly tougher then fed's. Nadal could possibly face ferrer, verdasco, murray on the route to the final. Where as fed has roddick and djokovic.
Djokovic seems to have the toughest draw out there.
In-form Ljubicic? You're desperate!
If Ljubicic is a threat to Djokovic, he better withdraws right now.
Del Potro is useless on clay (against Nadal, Fed and Djoko). Just watch how easy Federer disposed of him.
Djoko and JMDP are in the same quarter, that could be interesting
Here come the conspiracy cries! :lol: :lol:
While Roddick and Blake are quite good clay courters. :roll:
Did you watch last couple of Masters at all? Ljubicic is making QF and playing nice on clay. Also Del Potro played decent tennis in Madrid. Didn't some of Federer fans say that Federer - DelPotro was the real final in Madrid?
That didn't take too long :lol: VVV
The draw is rigged!!! Blake has to play ON CLAY in the 1st Round! I thought this was a hardcourt tourney? They've changed it at the last minute to get Blake out early. I know it.
I wonder if Murray/chela is likely to be this Sunday? Novak was the highest seed to play last year on the Sunday and it would make sense to give Roger/Rafa/Novak the extra days rest given their efforts in Madrid.
I saw a 30 year old grandpa that served well and hit some nice backhands, but moved like a snail (compared to top4).
Definately a terrifying sight for the top clay courters .
And just to warn you from the upcoming disappointments, Djokovic is just playing for runner-up.
You got that right. While Federer's is the easiest.
you used to be a lot more sensible and easygoing than you are now. federer isn't going to be playing blake, he's not going through. roddick won't be getting past monfils if he's fit either. you can't just "say names" and expect to impress us with them- lapentti?? seriously? *in-form* ljubicic? only thing in-form i can see about him this year is he's actually making it to main event tournaments. you may disagree with that and fair enough, but i doubt you disagree with the following:
frankly nothing in the draw mattered apart from which side djokovic was on- if he played rafa in the semis they'd fight each other to a standstill leaving federer with a chance of winning in the final. on federer's side the opposite will happen and nadal, enormous favourite against anyone in a one-off, rested match on clay in the first place, will slam whoever makes the final.
Early upsets: I got Odesnik taking out Simon, who's played like crap recently. Oscar to take out A-Rod in the 2nd. Bolleli may beat Berdych. Is Monfils still in the draw?
It is the truth, like it or not.
Yes he is still in the draw, just to pull out later and make it even easier for Federer.
Monfils is hurt. It's not like he's gonna be a threat even if he stays in. What do you have against Fed.
You can't predict the draw and what's easy. Just look at your avatar.
There fixed it for you.Seriously mate,lighten up.There are no conspiracies.
throw up in my mouth a little bit LOL!
Assessment of the draw:
Federer has a crippled Monfils n his 1/4
Murray has Gonzales in his quarter
all the rest of the top clay players are in the 1/4 of Nole or Nadal.
Most of them will neutralize each other. Warinka, Davydenko, Verdasco and Almagro are in the same 1/16.
Lapentti on clay is a tough 1st round opponent. Toughest than what other 3 top 4 have to face in the first. That is all I am saying. Also you didn't watch Madrid obviously. Ljubicic made the QF beating Tsonga and Simon, and that is not first Masters QF he made recently.
Nicholas Lapentti? You mean the guy who's 7-8 this yr, 32 yrs old, and 108 in the world? OH NO!!!!!!!!!!! NOT LAPENTTI!!!! ANYONE BUT LAPENTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For a grandslam first round where a top seed can meet any random qualifier,journeyman or wildcard Lapentti is a tough start for Djokovic.
Exactly. But try to explain that to these hot heads.
I don't think he'll beat Stephanek unfortunately but it would be awesome if could pull off an upset.
Really? Last time I checked, Federer is playing a younger, higher ranked opponent. Ljubicic makes a couple of fluke runs and suddenly he is a major threat?
You're the hot head here mate.
EDIT: Cool! Feliciano is seeded 28!
Federer has a cupcake draw just once again ... which is fully compensated by Djok being in his half. Since the start of the drawing operations I prayed that Djok gets his birthday present and be planted in Federer's half, so that he can get to the final for the first time.
I am happy, despite a gang of good claycourters like Ferrer, Davydenko, Wawrinka, Verdasco being in Nadal's half.
Djok has Del Pony, Monaco and Robredo to worry about, but it looks manageable.
So .... happy birthday, Novak! And aide!
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