Tiger8
Semi-Pro
I voted for Djokovic in 3, and I was correct.
That 1st set was the most entertaining and intense set of this Roland Garros :shock:
I don't usually find straight sets wins particularly enjoyable, but this was drama all the way
RG QF: [1] Novak Djokovic vs. [6] Rafael Nadal
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mike danny
Bionic Poster
Yeah, I am sure you did....I voted for Djokovic in 3, and I was correct.
That 1st set was the most entertaining and intense set of this Roland Garros :shock:
I don't usually find straight sets wins particularly enjoyable, but this was drama all the way
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
I voted for Djokovic in 3, and I was correct.
That 1st set was the most entertaining and intense set of this Roland Garros :shock:
I don't usually find straight sets wins particularly enjoyable, but this was drama all the way
Finally the mask came off.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
Y'know, I was wondering about this character :neutral:
I think he pretended he was a Nadal fan for months on end, hyping him up, getting all of us to get annoyed by him and Nadal - and in doing this, he was hoping to set Nadal and his fanbase up for the inevitable big fall (making it bigger than it actually is).
Cannot believe he is part of our fanbase.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
Oh **** we have a legend in out presence. Epic. I have always wanted to ask tennis commentator never leave this board and I was right. Classic. Legend.lol
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Let's face it, this is for the best, because it would look more balanced if you have 9 French Opens and 3 Wimbledons, than if you have 10 French Opens and 2 Wimbledons.
Djokovic wants Roland Garros more than Nadal, not surprisingly.
And if Djokovic wins this Roland Garros, he'll have had the better fortnight.
But if Djokovic doesn't win, wow, I'd much rather be in Nadal's shoes heading to Wimbledon.
Djokovic wants Roland Garros more than Nadal, not surprisingly.
And if Djokovic wins this Roland Garros, he'll have had the better fortnight.
But if Djokovic doesn't win, wow, I'd much rather be in Nadal's shoes heading to Wimbledon.
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
EnSHRINE HIM
PLEASE
PLEASE
manley0702
Semi-Pro
I voted for Djokovic in 3, and I was correct.
That 1st set was the most entertaining and intense set of this Roland Garros :shock:
I don't usually find straight sets wins particularly enjoyable, but this was drama all the way
LOL. You were the only guy on this board who was blindsided by today's result. It's probably best you sit the next few tournaments out.
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
The key with these polls is to only vote after the match is over.
Because if you vote before the match (or even during it) you may vote for your favorite instead of voting for the player who wins.
dunlop_fort_knox
Professional
yep. easy pickens. the sharpies knew this was no contest. the public always goes with the pedigree and "history". to say it another way, the public drives by looking through the rear view window...
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Nadal fooled everyone in that 1st set (well, he didn't fool me), recovering from 0-4 down to level at 4-4 and 5-5.
Djokovic was constantly being compared to Federer during the 1st set :shock:
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Deleted member 77403
Guest
Firstly congratulations to Djokovic and his decent fans. Well deserved, and long time coming for all of you.
Secondly commiserations to Nadal and his decent fans. The greatest RG champion of all time, he had a legendary run.
For all the trolls, haters, flammers, and baiters...I only have two words.
Secondly commiserations to Nadal and his decent fans. The greatest RG champion of all time, he had a legendary run.
For all the trolls, haters, flammers, and baiters...I only have two words.
Bhagi Katbamna
Legend
For fans of both players I can only offer the wisest four words that I know: "this too shall pass".
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
The main thing is Nadal is injury-free.
The problem this year is confidence (and that's because he didn't play much in the 2nd half of 2014 because of the wrist injury and appendicitis).
Sometimes you can't get confidence back in time for the big events.
But, not a bad year, QF of the Australian Open, QF of the French Open.
Still in with a chance at each slam.
Wimbledon is a good thing for him, because he will be forced to flatten out his groundstrokes more.
He had them flatter in 2013-2014 (when he swept the US Summer 17-0 in 2013, and made the AO Final in 2014), but hasn't had the confidence in 2015 yet, so hitting too loopy.
The way he played today's quarter-final was the same as his approach to 2011 Roland Garros - and that worked vs Federer.
And it would have worked today if he was playing Federer, but he was playing Djokovic.
And now the attention turns to Djokovic, and we'll soon see if he has the stuff of a Roland Garros champion or not.
The problem this year is confidence (and that's because he didn't play much in the 2nd half of 2014 because of the wrist injury and appendicitis).
Sometimes you can't get confidence back in time for the big events.
But, not a bad year, QF of the Australian Open, QF of the French Open.
Still in with a chance at each slam.
Wimbledon is a good thing for him, because he will be forced to flatten out his groundstrokes more.
He had them flatter in 2013-2014 (when he swept the US Summer 17-0 in 2013, and made the AO Final in 2014), but hasn't had the confidence in 2015 yet, so hitting too loopy.
The way he played today's quarter-final was the same as his approach to 2011 Roland Garros - and that worked vs Federer.
And it would have worked today if he was playing Federer, but he was playing Djokovic.
And now the attention turns to Djokovic, and we'll soon see if he has the stuff of a Roland Garros champion or not.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Slice'n'dice
Hall of Fame
Don't lay this at Nadal's door. He did this to himself.
Slice'n'dice
Hall of Fame
I can go back and fourth with you about how dumb it is to think that Court Phillip is the same as every other court in the world.
Or how dumb it is to have confidence in Djokovic at Roland Garros vs Nadal (as most of you found out last year, when even hand-cramping Nadal won ROLAND GARROS in 4 sets over DJOKOVIC after losing to Djokovic at Rome, losing to Almagro at Barcelona and losing in straight sets to Ferrer at Monte Carlo).
But I won't, because you won't change your mind, so I'll just let the quarter-final do the talking for me.
The quarter final did indeed say it better than you ever could.
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
WhiskeyEE, You don't have to apologize to me for that post, I can understand your frustration.
You thought I would only post when Rafa was winning.
I warned you, I've been posting all year, and Rafa has not been winning all year (only Argentina).
Now onto Wimbledon we go!
You thought I would only post when Rafa was winning.
I warned you, I've been posting all year, and Rafa has not been winning all year (only Argentina).
Now onto Wimbledon we go!
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
lmao, he needs glasses. Hilarious dunce like comment, I have to give you credit for that one.
Slice'n'dice
Hall of Fame
Tennis_commentator, aren't we forgetting something
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
I don't care whether you post or not. You can keep saying that Nadal will win after he retires for all I care. But everyone (including you) knows at this point that Nadal is done winning anything.
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manley0702
Semi-Pro
I wouldn't say he's done winning anything. He'll still win matches, and with a good draw, could even make a slam semi or final. I'd bet money on him winning another 250 before he retires. Is he done winning slams? I think that's pretty obvious, but there's more to tennis than just the slams.
G A S
Hall of Fame
Slice'n'dice
Hall of Fame
If he's in a slam final there's always a chance he could win it.
Think there is an outside chance that he could, but would lean towards no, the biological passport making things trickier.
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Towser83
G.O.A.T.
That happened at the AO in 2008, but not sure if it happened any other time?
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
I mean, sure. If Fognini is nice enough to skip Buenos Aires, he could defend his title there. But I don't see him winning anything of any significance. Even clay masters are a reach for him now.
You have to remember that he was very lucky to win any big titles even last year. Madrid due to Kei's injury and RG due to the heat.
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tenisdecente
Hall of Fame
Honestly, seeing what he offered this tournament, and remembering that in 2016 he will be 30, I consider it unlikely, very unlikely. And if you add that Djokovic surely will continue his domination plus the young guns will be more involved in top places, things are not optimistic for Nadal. Oh, and also his ranking wont be nice if the direction of the stream does not vary. Let's see
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
Well well. My 2$cents - I sure thought Djok was the fav today, but I didn't expect him to get the job done in straights, even including a breadstick. :shock:
Even more, if it weren't for that brainfart in the first set, the scoreline might have been even more humiliating. Kudos to Nadal for not allowing that to happen...
Djokovic was by far the superior player today, on all aspects of the game. Don't feel the need to summ those all up again, quite a few of you have already done so, and a lot better than I ever could.
As for Rafa, I was one of those folks hoping for a better show of form during this RG, "wait till RG before casting the verdict", but I think it was clear for all to see that indeed, Rafa is in decline, as usually the most notable sign of it being a clear loss of speed and pace. I still won't go as far as to claim that he won't ever win a slam again - we've seen the former greats do so more than once before, with the help of a friendly draw and all stars aligning - but I do think that beating Fed's record is out of reach by now.
Not that it matters - he may well be holding a record that's there to stay for the ages, being the 9-times RG champ. Amazing in its own rights and more than enough to indeed name him one of the greats ever to play the game, and imho indeed the best player ever to set foot on the clay.
Too early to crown Djokovic the RG 2015-victor though - should Stan the Man show up like the version that demolished Fed in his QF or the one that encountered Rafa in Rome, I'm actually liking Stan's chances.
Not counting on that all too much, though - "Inconsistency" is Stan's second name, so I heard.
Even more, if it weren't for that brainfart in the first set, the scoreline might have been even more humiliating. Kudos to Nadal for not allowing that to happen...
Djokovic was by far the superior player today, on all aspects of the game. Don't feel the need to summ those all up again, quite a few of you have already done so, and a lot better than I ever could.
As for Rafa, I was one of those folks hoping for a better show of form during this RG, "wait till RG before casting the verdict", but I think it was clear for all to see that indeed, Rafa is in decline, as usually the most notable sign of it being a clear loss of speed and pace. I still won't go as far as to claim that he won't ever win a slam again - we've seen the former greats do so more than once before, with the help of a friendly draw and all stars aligning - but I do think that beating Fed's record is out of reach by now.
Not that it matters - he may well be holding a record that's there to stay for the ages, being the 9-times RG champ. Amazing in its own rights and more than enough to indeed name him one of the greats ever to play the game, and imho indeed the best player ever to set foot on the clay.
Too early to crown Djokovic the RG 2015-victor though - should Stan the Man show up like the version that demolished Fed in his QF or the one that encountered Rafa in Rome, I'm actually liking Stan's chances.
Not counting on that all too much, though - "Inconsistency" is Stan's second name, so I heard.
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Atherton2003
Hall of Fame
Love Nadal....here's hoping for a victory for Murray in the next round.....and also Tsonga.....even Wawrinka....anyone but Novak
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Nathaniel_Near
Guest
-Nods head-
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
The first, say, 80 pages of this thread are a hilarious read btw. Thanks for the :lol: s folks.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
Just got home from work - can't wait to watch.
NRod2
Rookie
If you really thought this, you don't watch tennis.
Blindly backing your favorite player without watching or taking into account their last 10 months of play tells me that your opinions on actual tennis is not objective or intelligent.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Do you know Nadal's record at the French Open? Did you just ignore that completely? Anyway, you've taken a quote of something that I said from before the match, and used hindsight that you've got from AFTER the match, to score a point. Congratulations.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
That's our @Mustard.
Djokovic had the game for the last 3 years to win RG; just couldn't keep his nerve against Nadal. But @Mustard and the other camp were blinded to the fact that their guy didn't win it; he just hung around and got the gifts.
Bottom line for all guys who primarily play from the baseline - Djokovic is just better than them. Only Fed, because of his attacking game, can win against Djokovic. And only if he's at his very best.
Murray will have to be fantastic - just to win 1 set. Then hope Djokovic gets nervous. Stan might have to hope for another very windy day...
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JRAJ1988
Guest
I'm sure you don't visit this often if you did you'll know that Mustard is a fountain of tennis knowledge and is objective to boot!
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Djokovic lost last year's final because he lost the third set 6-2 when the momentum swung against him. He couldn't mentally deal with the fact that it was 1 set all after the way he had played in the first 2 sets.
As for 2013, well. Nadal could have won that in 4 sets. The momentum then swung all over the place, before Nadal eventually got the win.
Yet who has beaten Djokovic more? Nadal or Federer?
abmk
Bionic Poster
all down to the circumstances of those meetings ..
******* is 1-2 vs djokovic this year , with a win in a final ...
nadal is 0-2 with 0 sets won out of 5 ...
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
that's bit of a silly comment, that's mainly because Djokovic has PLAYED Nadal more times. He might have lost to Nadal more times but he's also BEATEN Nadal more times than he's beaten Federer. He's one match behind Federer, 2 behind Nadal.
I also think it was recent matches being talked about where Federer as at least won a match and taken Djokovic the distance, despite Fed being 33 to Nadal's just turned 29
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xan
Hall of Fame
Really close6-4, 6-3, 6-1?
for... ?
Obviously
Love the quotes usage. Clever stuff from a clever guy.
Good stuff
Spot on
Another gem
It was funny thoNadal seems eternally saving break points. Admirable, sort of
Edit: Spoke too soon
The salt in this thread went great with my popcorns.
NRod2
Rookie
Obviously you thought that Nadal would win before the match, but my point still stands. Nadal had an awful clay court build up to Roland Garros. His forehand was inconsistent and lacked power and depth, his movement was mediocre at best, his serve has always been a weakness, and his weak backhand was actually being used to exploit hit forehand and subpar lateral movement by guys like Smyczek and Berdych in the AO, as well as Murray, Djokovic and Fognini in the clay swing. He was mentally fragile all year, evidence by his choke jobs against Raonic at IW and Verdasco in Miami. He literally is a shell of what he was, and he did nothing to change his game to adapt. And yet you still thought that just because he DID to it, that he WOULD do it. Do you go to Vegas and drop money on the defending Super Bowl champions every year, because clearly the year before, they were the best team?
Let it go, fanboy. You come across as so insightful and intelligent, but really, you're just dead wrong.
Not that well, the number of times he choked on shots after getting up 4-0 approached double figures, but he was in many of Nadal's service games-what'd he have, a dozen break opportunities, and broke him 5 times in 3 sets, almost 2 per, so that says a lot.
Comedy gold, that's an awful lotta people wiping egg from their faces...
See the post that immediately followed yours. You are a complete and utter joke, the word "troll" is often overused, but there oughta be picture of you by it in the dictionary.
