RIP control

I see a lot of threads around TT about people digging the control of co-polyester strings but having pain or worried about arm health. I have been there too, never had tennis elbow but don't want to risk it. I am off poly (perhaps for good) since I notice wrist pain with it fairly soon and it's not worth risking my livelihood.

The major negative of this string IMO is it feels muted and dead. It doesn't sound great either. It doesn't like high tension. I can live with this, although i like to pull out a stick with gut full-bed for variety.

Any player who wants a low powered control string that is soft and spinny, especially 3.5s or lower (like me) needs to try head rip control 17 gauge in a full bed. It is a remarkable string-- very soft and forgiving but low powered. I would almost go as far as to say any 3.5 using poly should try this string right now.

In addition, if you are not a string breaker (I am not) it lasts a long time. Even better than that however, it is good until the end. As it loosens and ages it seems to get better to me, since it gives you a little extra pop but no loss of control. It is the opposite of other synthetic strings which worsen with age (become mushy, or uncontrollable, or stiff, etc...)

Thanks
 

BlueB

Legend
I sometimes play Rip 17 in hybrid with loose strung poly crosses. While it has some poly qualities (lower power, decent spin, some snapback), you can not expect poly like performance, even with poly crosses. I tested it against a full poly hybrid, back to back in matched frames.
Actually, snap back was good only for first 2 hours or so. After that it can be restored by lubricating the string bed.
Good string, though.
I'm a strong 3.5...
 
Never played it but it sounds good.

Does it sound too high? If that's the case try some vibration dampeners to get a better, lower pitched sound. That's the only reason I'm using one. I don't like that high pitched, almost metallic sound.
 
It IS a wonderful string. It's relatively inexpensive, in some people's hands, they're remarkably durable, and they play so well.

If for whatever reason, natural gut becomes unavailable to me, I would be more than happy to return to RIP Control.
 

SJSA

Professional
I used to love Rip Control until I found MonoGut ZX Pro (17 g).
Try it. You might like it.
 

RoddickAce

Hall of Fame
I have been playing with Pro Hurricane for a long time, but I don't play tennis as often anymore, so I wanted to try a copoly in hope that it keeps its tension a bit longer.

I played with the Rip control at 16g and 62 pounds, and I agree that it feels very muted and lacked power, and the strings broke in roughly 8 days (4 hours of playing time). I think I'm going to go back to the Pro Hurricanes.
 

seb23

Rookie
I used to love Rip Control until I found MonoGut ZX Pro (17 g).
Try it. You might like it.
Was it rip 16 or rip 17 that you used? And how would you compare it to Monogut zx in terms of spin, power and durability?
 

mikeler

Moderator
RIP Control is the most "poly like" multi made. For those making the transition to softer strings, this is the first one to try.
 

SJSA

Professional
Was it rip 16 or rip 17 that you used? And how would you compare it to Monogut zx in terms of spin, power and durability?
It was 16 g but I had to restring after 20 hrs of play.

I have played both with MonoGut ZX Pro (17 g) and MonoGut ZX (16 g).
Spin is better for Rip Control.
Power and durability are better for MonoGut.
MonoGut ZX is a great tweener string. It is as comfortable as natural gut and as durable as polyester.
 
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SJSA

Professional
It's on my list. What tension do you like? Full bed? Also do you find it maintains playability well?
A full bed between 55-60 lbs is the ideal tension ranges for this string depending on your racket flex.
Do not go under 55 lbs. You might break it often.
Its tension maintenance is greater than poly.

I recently sturng with Volkl V-Feel which is similar to Rip Control.
It is a better version of Rip Control for feel, power and durability.
I paid $8 per pkg (Pay 2 & Get 4 Deal)
 
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Ramon

Legend
I don't think RIP Control 17 is an option for me. I'm was a string breaker with a 16x20 racquet, and now I have a 16x16. I found RIP Control 16 to be durable, but it was too mushy for the racquet I was using (Pro Kennex Ki 5x). It works much better in a tweener racquet, like the APDGT.

Someone mentioned Monogut ZX. I tried it in both 16 and 17 gauge. 17 gauge broke in less than 2 sets, so 16 gauge is the only one I can use. I prefer ZX over RIP Control. ZX has more power and spin.
 

SteveI

Legend
I don't think RIP Control 17 is an option for me. I'm was a string breaker with a 16x20 racquet, and now I have a 16x16. I found RIP Control 16 to be durable, but it was too mushy for the racquet I was using (Pro Kennex Ki 5x). It works much better in a tweener racquet, like the APDGT.

Someone mentioned Monogut ZX. I tried it in both 16 and 17 gauge. 17 gauge broke in less than 2 sets, so 16 gauge is the only one I can use. I prefer ZX over RIP Control. ZX has more power and spin.
I was breaking the 17G Rip Control in under 4 hours in a 16 x 19.. and I am in general not a string breaker
 
Appreciate the responses above. Consensus is that it's a great string for many players but not for everyone. Some people obviously like poly a lot more, poly hybrids, or zx (which I have never tried but is a soft control/spin string with a loyal following). Zx may have more pop than RIPC and is certainly at a higher price level.

The main point I wanted to make is that there are a lot of people at intermediate skill levels that use poly and may not be aware of RIPC. It may be a better and safer option for these people and they should at least try it.
 
Appreciate the responses above. Consensus is that it's a great string for many players but not for everyone. Some people obviously like poly a lot more, poly hybrids, or zx (which I have never tried but is a soft control/spin string with a loyal following). Zx may have more pop than RIPC and is certainly at a higher price level.

The main point I wanted to make is that there are a lot of people at intermediate skill levels that use poly and may not be aware of RIPC. It may be a better and safer option for these people and they should at least try it.
The main point should be that, there are a lot of people at intermediate skill levels who don't swing nearly fast or uses a swing path/grip that generate spin. Then post here and complain about arm problems after using polys.
 

topspinlob

Rookie
RIP Control is the most "poly like" multi made. For those making the transition to softer strings, this is the first one to try.
i agree here... When i was struggling with tennis elbow.but still wanted poly like control..this the string to go with..you just have to get pass the muted feel and string movement

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Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
RIP Control is the most "poly like" multi made. For those making the transition to softer strings, this is the first one to try.
Just to flip the equation, another string the OP might take a look at is Tecnifibre X-Code. The most "multi-like" poly out there -- because it is poly material with multi geometry. Comfortable and shock-free with excellent control, lower power and more spin potential than similar alternatives.
 

BlueB

Legend
Just to flip the equation, another string the OP might take a look at is Tecnifibre X-Code. The most "multi-like" poly out there -- because it is poly material with multi geometry. Comfortable and shock-free with excellent control, lower power and more spin potential than similar alternatives.
+1 on this ^. I like X-Code more then Rip. I also play it in hybrid with monofilament poly crosses strung a lot looser.
 

mikeler

Moderator
Just to flip the equation, another string the OP might take a look at is Tecnifibre X-Code. The most "multi-like" poly out there -- because it is poly material with multi geometry. Comfortable and shock-free with excellent control, lower power and more spin potential than similar alternatives.
Funny you say that. The manager at our local tennis shop swears this is the softest poly out there.
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
Funny you say that. The manager at our local tennis shop swears this is the softest poly out there.
Without doubt. I've been playing Polyfibre Black Venom Rough, which is a pretty sweet feeling poly but it's not even close. Once you go with multiple strands of poly-multifilament construction, it really changes things up. And TF is also using a new kind of PU to bind everything together. This is the same multi geometry that TF developed with Multi-Feel and the old Duramix. Really very, very good.

I still like RIP and Isospeed Classic, but the X-Code is an entirely different type of string. Not poly-like, because it is poly.
 
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Ramon

Legend
Just to flip the equation, another string the OP might take a look at is Tecnifibre X-Code. The most "multi-like" poly out there -- because it is poly material with multi geometry. Comfortable and shock-free with excellent control, lower power and more spin potential than similar alternatives.
That's interesting...a multifilament poly. Sounds like Duramix without the mix. Too bad it's so expensive, or I might be tempted to try it out. I can't find anything that lasts over 6 hours on my 98 ESP.
 

mikeler

Moderator
That's interesting...a multifilament poly. Sounds like Duramix without the mix. Too bad it's so expensive, or I might be tempted to try it out. I can't find anything that lasts over 6 hours on my 98 ESP.
I went by the local shop today and they had X-Code and Duramix in the half price sales bin. Duramix lasted 4 sets in a 16x20 so no way I'll gt that again but I did pick up X-Code. It obviously is not selling well at the current price.
 
Thanks for the suggestion re X-Code. Would like to try it and I will add it to the list.

Its fun to experiment with new strings and the list is getting longer. The main limiting factor is that I rarely break strings and hate to cut out strings before their natural usability lifespan is up. I have nursed over 30 hours out of my RIP C string bed and have gotten 80 hours out of natural gut (in a prestige mid 18/20). I almost feel sorry for you guys that break 16G poly after 2 matches ;)

Lots of good info here on the board. Please continue to update the community with your string experiences.
 

BlueB

Legend
Slightly new packaging -- coming out as X-Code HD, with more visual emphasis on the PU HD component I guess. Same string.
On mu last order I got one of each, old and new, to compare them.

Another nice thing about X-Code is that it maintains the playabillity for quite some time after the initial tension drop. My mono crosses (at low tension) notch a bit into the PU coating and from that stage I like the feel the best.
When the snap back is gone, then it's time to cut them out. I'd say 20 hours easily.
Mind you, I broke them few times, but I think there might have been some damage in the stringing process...

Yes, expenisive, unfortunatelly...

I'm starting to fall in love with Head Sonic Pro monofilament, which feels about as soft as the X-Code, though. The only question is if it plays well as long as the X-Code...
 

Oz_Rocket

Professional
I'm starting to fall in love with Head Sonic Pro monofilament, which feels about as soft as the X-Code, though. The only question is if it plays well as long as the X-Code...
I always liked Sonic Pro in 17G for my Graphene Speed Pro. It dies fairly fast though (~10 hours for me). Also my ageing elbow still gets a slight twinge if I hit hard with a fullbed of it.

Tried softening if up with synthetic gut in the crosses but never got a decent balance and it felt too lively as I have a very hard and fast swing. So I tried a full bed of RIP Control 17G and while it was lovely on my arm and not too powerful, it was a bit too mushy particularly off centre.

So I tried Sonic Pro 17G mains and Rip Control 17G crosses @52lbs and it seems to be working for what I want.
 
I always liked Sonic Pro in 17G for my Graphene Speed Pro. It dies fairly fast though (~10 hours for me). Also my ageing elbow still gets a slight twinge if I hit hard with a fullbed of it.

Tried softening if up with synthetic gut in the crosses but never got a decent balance and it felt too lively as I have a very hard and fast swing. So I tried a full bed of RIP Control 17G and while it was lovely on my arm and not too powerful, it was a bit too mushy particularly off centre.

So I tried Sonic Pro 17G mains and Rip Control 17G crosses @52lbs and it seems to be working for what I want.
I don't know my polys, but isn't ~10hours of live polys pretty good?
 

mmk

Hall of Fame
Just to flip the equation, another string the OP might take a look at is Tecnifibre X-Code. The most "multi-like" poly out there -- because it is poly material with multi geometry. Comfortable and shock-free with excellent control, lower power and more spin potential than similar alternatives.
Gosen has a multifilament poly as well, ILD. It has been a while since I tried it, but I liked it a lot more than RIP Control 16, which I couldn't cut out soon enough.
 

SteveI

Legend
Rip Control is one of those few "Love it or Hate" it strings out there. I found it to be not suiting my game and I was breaking it in about 4 hours. It played soft, but was not "ploy like" IMHO and was a pain in the butt to string in a full bed. The price was decent, but not really a great string for the price. It has been around for quite a while which indicates that folks seem to like it. Lots of better options out there for me.
 
Really liked rip control for the softness and relative spin for a non-poly. However, I moved away from it because I couldnt find much touch at the net or when I wasnt swinging away that hard.
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
Gosen has a multifilament poly as well, ILD. It has been a while since I tried it, but I liked it a lot more than RIP Control 16, which I couldn't cut out soon enough.
What is the name of the Gosen poly-multi? I'd like to check it out since it will likely be less costly than TF.
 

BlueB

Legend
What is the name of the Gosen poly-multi? I'd like to check it out since it will likely be less costly than TF.
Is it the ILD? Cheaper but not much... It seems to be only 37 strands of poly vs. hundreds (or thousands?) of strands in X-Code...
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
Is it the ILD? Cheaper but not much... It seems to be only 37 strands of poly vs. hundreds (or thousands?) of strands in X-Code...
Man, I must be getting old since totally misread his post. I was thinking there was a poly-multi in addition to ILD. I do not even consider ILD to be multi-filament geometry -- it is really multiple strands of monofilament, to your point. Not even in the same ballpark. Multiple bundles of strands comprised of multi-filaments still seems to be strictly a Tecnifibre design and manufacture method (including the products they make for Wilson).
 

robok9

Semi-Pro
I really like this string, however I found that touch shots were next to impossible. From the baseline, it plays great, but net game was a bit off.
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
Really liked rip control for the softness and relative spin for a non-poly. However, I moved away from it because I couldnt find much touch at the net or when I wasnt swinging away that hard.
This is why I think Isospeed Control/Professional Classic are much better all around strings than the Isospeed-made RIP Control. Both Isospeed strings are 100% polyolefin ribbon constructions whereas RIP Control has a conventional core (multiple nylon strands) underneath the polyolefin layers. There is a world of difference in playability.
 
Rip C needs to be 17g

16 gauge RIPC is a much worse string than 17 gauge IMO. Stiff as a board and poor feel whereas 17 gauge is tolerable. If you can't play the 17 gauge b/c of durability issues, then best to look at another string.
 
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