Rod Laver declares Nick Kyrgios could have won the US Open with smarter shot selection

La Grande

G.O.A.T.
http://www.rippa.com/category/tenni...pen-with-smarter-shot-selection-201510130008/

Ok Rod...

“His charisma is that he likes to show off all the shots he’s got,” Laver said. “I think, because he won at Wimbledon against Nadal, he feels like it’s gone up a little further. That’s where he’s got to understand that that type of showmanship doesn’t win matches. You need a whole range of different shots to win a match. I think that’s where he’s got a to learn — how do you win a point without exploring every single shot that you’ve got? How about just keeping the ball in court? That sort of showmanship gets him in trouble.”

“The last US Open, he could have won the tournament but he comes to the net (in the first round against Andy Murray) and he’s half-volleying it between his legs,” dual grand slam champion Laver said. “You figure, ‘Yes, if you don’t have any other way of doing it, then you have to hit it that way.’ But that idea, he has to sort of lower that level. Maybe it’s boring for him to be on the court and not being able to show all the shots he has, but that’s not going to make him a champion.”

“He does have the ability to be a champion and it would be a shame if he doesn’t allow himself to be that much better,” he said. “He certainly has all the game. He has the temperament, he doesn’t get nervous. But when he starts to lose, he gets flat ... and he’s worrying about his game, not about his opponent’s game.”
 

Enga

Hall of Fame
Rod's right...

But I think sometimes these younger pros are just afraid to be at the net, they always go for strange low percentage shots. Always with the drop volleys. What ever happened to the simple angled volley or deep volley? The chance for a passing shot is low if execution is proper.
 

Fedinkum

Legend
I am praying that Nick will post a middle finger instagram to Laver tonite...and let hell breaks loose...muwwahahhaaaa.......please Nick, please do something stupid like you always do...pleazzzzzzzzzze......
 

Adv. Edberg

Legend
Yeah seems about right. But Kyrgios is rather acting as a tough guy rapper and posing for the cameras rather than a tennis player who wants to win.
 
Nick was playing the match in question seriously.

If Laver has chosen that one shot to illustrate his point, fine.

Other than that I tend to disagree that Kyrgios was not serious about his effort at the US Open.
 

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
I am praying that Nick will post a middle finger instagram to Laver tonite...and let hell breaks loose...muwwahahhaaaa.......please Nick, please do something stupid like you always do...pleazzzzzzzzzze......

You want Kyrgios to say he banged Laver's wife?
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Not buying this. His ability is pretty much unproven. Some will point out he has defeated Federer and Nadal before but let's not forget Murray and Gasquet have been owned him like an ordinary youngster. For winning Slam or even Masters, it takes well rounded skills and ability to handle various playing styles. I don't see those in him at all. His playing style just too unorthodox and incomplete as well.
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Kyrgios will probably win a slam or two, he's only 20yo.

"He could have won the US open 2015?"
yes if he went through Murray, Anderson, Wawrinka, Federer and Djokovic. Funny statement from Laver here.

Is it possible to win a Slam with winning just 10-12% of return points? I don't even think, his current setup would make him top player, let alone winning Slam. @falstaff78 could give us reliable stats here.
 

falstaff78

Hall of Fame
Is it possible to win a Slam with winning just 10-12% of return points? I don't even think, his current setup would make him top player, let alone winning Slam. @falstaff78 could give us reliable stats here.

I have written on this subject in a little more detail. I will update those at the end of the season. However here are some numbers:

Return points won by the last dozen USO champions:
Djokovic 2015 - 44%
Cilic 2014 - 41%
Nadal 2013 - 45%
Murray 2012 - 44%
Djokovic 2011 - 49%
Nadal 2010 - 40%
Delpo 2009 - 44%
Federer 2008 - 40%
Federer 2007 - 40%
Federer 2006 - 45%
Federer 2005 - 44%
Federer 2004 - 43%

Return points won by Kyrgios...

...2015 - 33%
...2015 hard - 33%
...career hard - 35%
...career USO - 35%
 
C

Chadillac

Guest
Put laver in nicks body and you have the perfect player. Its hard for laver to not be critical, all of the top aus players play the same. They have no variation
 

AngieB

Banned
#No.

#Nick walks around mad at the universe, because people won't allow him to win. He's mad at the crowd. He's mad at the umpire. He throws verbal insults at his opponents. In case someone forgot to tell #Nick, this is the sport of tennis. His Mother (who made up a story she is Malaysian royalty, as many do from that part of the world) is to blame. She pops-off on social media like a #commoner so the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

#Nick is entitled and everything in his young life has been given to him. In order to be an ATP tennis champion, you have to earn it, frat boy (did he even finish high school?)

#RodLaver is, has and will always be encouraging and cordial to Australian players. There is a reason he moved to the #US. #Dust

#PTL #JC4Ever

Angie
 
D

Deleted member 307496

Guest
#No.

#Nick walks around mad at the universe, because people won't allow him to win. He's mad at the crowd. He's mad at the umpire. He throws verbal insults at his opponents. In case someone forgot to tell #Nick, this is the sport of tennis. His Mother (who made up a story she is Malaysian royalty, as many do from that part of the world) is to blame. She pops-off on social media like a #commoner so the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

#Nick is entitled and everything in his young life has been given to him. In order to be an ATP tennis champion, you have to earn it, frat boy (did he even finish high school?)

#RodLaver is, has and will always be encouraging and cordial to Australian players. There is a reason he moved to the #US. #Dust

#PTL #JC4Ever

Angie
 
D

Deleted member 307496

Guest
60 year old Rod Laver is better than peak Hewitt
If current Rod Laver played today he'd be a top 3 player, he's just modest and has decided to allow the younger generations a chance to achieve some big things.
 

Noleberic123

G.O.A.T.
He would win the CYGS. Djokovic has no chance against current Rod Laver. Novak wouldn't even take a set. 77 year old rod laver would win something like 6-3 6-4 6-2
If current Rod Laver played today he'd be a top 3 player, he's just modest and has decided to allow the younger generations a chance to achieve some big things.
 
D

Deleted member 307496

Guest
He would win the CYGS. Djokovic has no chance against current Rod Laver. Novak wouldn't even take a set. 77 year old rod laver would win something like 6-3 6-4 6-2
Agreed completely. It's a shame he decided against competing in favor of a normal life.
 
D

Deleted member 688153

Guest
You can just imagine how prime Laver must be by now, being in his late 70's.
All those years of rest too.
And we think Federer is good at 34.
 

Wynter

Legend
Not buying this. His ability is pretty much unproven. Some will point out he has defeated Federer and Nadal before but let's not forget Murray and Gasquet have been owned him like an ordinary youngster. For winning Slam or even Masters, it takes well rounded skills and ability to handle various playing styles. I don't see those in him at all. His playing style just too unorthodox and incomplete as well.

He beat Gasquet in 5 last year and Gasquet squeezed past in 4 tight sets in the rematch

OWNING is a bit ridiculous. Murray has his number though as things stand.
 

reaper

Legend
He beat Gasquet in 5 last year and Gasquet squeezed past in 4 tight sets in the rematch

OWNING is a bit ridiculous. Murray has his number though as things stand.

That's the problem for Kyrgios. From Wimbledon 2014 to the present he's made no improvement.
 

Garhi Shot First

Hall of Fame
Kyrgios will probably win a slam or two, he's only 20yo.
"He could have won the US open 2015?"
yes if he went through Murray, Anderson, Wawrinka, Federer and Djokovic. Funny statement from Laver here.
Very strange statement. It's not like Nick had a deep run. He certainly has the game to win multiple majors, but he still had a lot of work to do in that particular one.

Somehow, I doubt he would have gotten past Wawrinka... :mad::eek:
 

MAZ1

Rookie
Could have made it to the second round is more believable..


Is Rod feeling okay these days?
 

Gary Duane

Talk Tennis Guru
#No.

#Nick walks around mad at the universe, because people won't allow him to win. He's mad at the crowd. He's mad at the umpire. He throws verbal insults at his opponents. In case someone forgot to tell #Nick, this is the sport of tennis. His Mother (who made up a story she is Malaysian royalty, as many do from that part of the world) is to blame. She pops-off on social media like a #commoner so the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

#Nick is entitled and everything in his young life has been given to him. In order to be an ATP tennis champion, you have to earn it, frat boy (did he even finish high school?)

#RodLaver is, has and will always be encouraging and cordial to Australian players. There is a reason he moved to the #US. #Dust

#PTL #JC4Ever

Angie
I could not agree more.
 

AngieB

Banned
Please he could beat Djokovic with his right hand
Everyone knows #Novak will never achieve a #CYGS, something #RodLaver accomplished twice. #Novak was never able to capture the imagination of tennis fans to ever have the popularity that #RodLaver enjoy during and after his career. Fans respect #RodLaver and they don't respect #Novak because he presents as a cheap #Lendl. #Truth

#PTL #JC4Ever

Angie
 

AngieB

Banned
That's the problem for Kyrgios. From Wimbledon 2014 to the present he's made no improvement.
#Nick's win over #Nadal will be the highlight of his career and likely his biggest success in tennis. #Done

#PTL #JC4Ever

Angie
 
Top