Roddick explains why Sinner will receive longer ban than Swiatek

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Roddick explains why Sinner will receive a longer ban than Swiatek​

Published December 4, 2024 16:30 by Lorenzo Ciotti

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In one of the latest episodes of his podcast Served with, the legendary American Andy Roddick offered his followers an in-depth analysis on Jannik Sinner's Clostebol doping issue.
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A situation that sees the fate of the young Italian still hanging in the balance: a disqualification sentence that could be 1-2 years (that's what WADA is asking for) hangs over his head and the final word on the matter will not arrive before mid-February 2025.

Sinner is already certain that at least until February 11th of next year there will be no hearing at the Court of Arbitration for Sport and therefore he will be regularly present in Melbourne for the Australian Open. But what will happen next? Will a disqualification be triggered as requested by WADA or will the Court of Arbitration for Sport decide for no type of sanction or for a reduced sanction?
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Roddick - also in light of the doping issue involving Iga Swiatek - shared his deep analysis, explaining: "I'm always obsessed with precedents. Iga was suspended for a month. I don't know what will happen with Jannik Sinner but I feel like at this point they will do something, they have created a precedent."
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Roddick talked about the possible suspension of Sinner, indicating three months as the feeling that seems most likely. He said it would be difficult to get six months when Swiatek got a month, difficult to get even a month when the Polish player got a month, because in Sinner's case it was his entire team that was at fault.

Roddick also reiterated as he has stated several times in recent months that he does not believe that Sinner was doping on purpose and that, if he was, he should be suspended for much longer.

"All the scientists tell us that he has not improved his performance at all. Let's say the sentence is on February 11th, for example, if it's a month, March 11th, he's at the limit of Indian Wells and could probably play Miami. If it's two months it would be April 11th, he would miss Indian Wells and Miami, but it wouldn't be the end of the world for him.


If it's three months it would be May 11th, with the French Open starting on May 25th. If they give him three months, for me if you're Jannik Sinner, you accept it and we'll close the matter like that. If he gets a six-month suspension, then it would be brutal for him, missing Slams and being released just before the US Open. That would be like screwing him and it would be a big deal," added the American.

 

[Bartelby]

Would this suspension be prospective from the date of the CAS decision or backdated to a point where one can say "time served" and therefore effectively a monetary punishment?

 

[Arak]

I think that from now onwards, it’s going to be difficult to dish out long sentences. We will be down from years to months in terms of length of suspensions. They have set a precedent and it won’t be possible to pedal back. Perhaps the biggest deterrent to doping used to be the long career ending bans. Not the case anymore. Maybe this denotes a general change in the public’s perception of doping, as it used to be a big taboo, while now it’s a much more acceptable notion.

 

[Bride of Alcaraz]

I've never met a person who accepts doping, plus Sinner's story is ludicrous, given that his Physio worked for a basketball team that had a doping case with exactly the same substance!
Never mind that both the Trainer and the Physio would know which substances have a doping warning on them... I mean its literally their job to know this stuff.
The Physio would know this, so the story makes no sense, and was made-up to protect Sinner who was on doping cycle a few weeks before his test which caught the last bits of it
Sinner's case has nothing like Swiatek's so he might get a year or two, especially to send a message that doping is for LOSERS and DEGENERATES.

 

[tennis3]

WADA will recommend him for The Ordine al Merito della Repubblica Italiana

 

[Bartelby]

The reality is that Sinner's Independent Tribunal was the one that wears kid gloves whereas less successful players get the iron glove.

I've never met a person who accepts doping, plus Sinner's story is ludicrous, given that his Physio worked for a basketball team that had a doping case with exactly the same substance!
Never mind that both the Trainer and the Physio would know which substances have a doping warning on them... I mean its literally their job to know this stuff.
The Physio would know this, so the story makes no sense, and was made-up to protect Sinner who was on doping cycle a few weeks before his test which caught the last bits of it
Sinner's case has nothing like Swiatek's so he might get a year or two, especially to send a message that doping is for LOSERS and DEGENERATES.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Roddick has been sucking up to the establishment & simping for evil dopers so much that I wish for Nalbandian to not have defeated Federer in that 2003 USO.
This stupid Raw-duck deserved no slam.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

I've never met a person who accepts doping, plus Sinner's story is ludicrous, given that his Physio worked for a basketball team that had a doping case with exactly the same substance!
Never mind that both the Trainer and the Physio would know which substances have a doping warning on them... I mean its literally their job to know this stuff.
The Physio would know this, so the story makes no sense, and was made-up to protect Sinner who was on doping cycle a few weeks before his test which caught the last bits of it
Sinner's case has nothing like Swiatek's so he might get a year or two, especially to send a message that doping is for LOSERS and DEGENERATES.

And what's the point of decision right after AO, the first slam of the season?
Why can't this be on 11th of January instead?

 

[Aussie Darcy]

If Sinner wins the Australian Open but then does get a ban, will the Aus Open be stripped off of him? In fact, will everything he's won since he got caught doping on two separate occasions be stripped off of him?

 

[tennis3]

If Sinner wins the Australian Open but then does get a ban, will the Aus Open be stripped off of him? In fact, will everything he's won since he got caught doping on two separate occasions be stripped off of him?

Sinner knows where Peng Shuai is, but he's not telling.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

If Sinner wins the Australian Open but then does get a ban, will the Aus Open be stripped off of him?

 

[Bartelby]

She has been seen driving a top-of-the-range BEV while shopping at Chanel and Prada around Beijing.

Sinner knows where Peng Shuai is, but he's not telling.

 

[RSJfan]

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Sinner's case has nothing like Swiatek's so he might get a year or two, especially to send a message that doping is for LOSERS and DEGENERATES.

 

[zagor]

Sinner knows where Peng Shuai is, but he's not telling.

Honestly, joking aside that whole story is one of the most disturbing ones around tennis I've ever seen.

I really hope that girl is alive and safe, but I have some serious doubts regarding that.

Not that the tennis world cares, they're still happy to allow China to host WTA events. Despite all the woke BS virtue signaling so prevalent in tennis, It's all about the $$$ in the end, the rest is just a charade mostly.

 

[anarosevoli]

If Sinner wins the Australian Open but then does get a ban, will the Aus Open be stripped off of him? In fact, will everything he's won since he got caught doping on two separate occasions be stripped off of him?

And will they allow Berrettini to play under neutral flag?

 

[Bartelby]

Peng Shuai was rather disgracefully detained but she was released within a few weeks, paid compensation and lives safe and sound in Beijing.

The banning of Russians from Wimbledon was far worse as it was an arrogant display of English racism.

Honestly, joking aside that whole story is one of the most disturbing ones around tennis I've ever seen.

I really hope that girl is alive and safe, but I have some serious doubts regarding that.

Not that the tennis world cares, they're still happy to allow China to host WTA events. Despite all the woke BS virtue signaling so prevalent in tennis, It's all about the $$$ in the end, the rest is just a charade mostly.

 

[Gazelle]

Honestly, joking aside that whole story is one of the most disturbing ones around tennis I've ever seen.

I really hope that girl is alive and safe, but I have some serious doubts regarding that.

Not that the tennis world cares, they're still happy to allow China to host WTA events. Despite all the woke BS virtue signaling so prevalent in tennis, It's all about the $$$ in the end, the rest is just a charade mostly.

If you ban countries for stuff they have done wrong, you won't have many countries left.

 

[zagor]

If you ban countries for stuff they have done wrong, you won't have many countries left.

Fair enough, I certainly see your point. But this is a recent event and she is one of tennis' own, you protect your own.

I just find the whole situation and the way it was handled (or really wasn't in this case) to be disturbing.

 

[zagor]

Peng Shuai was rather disgracefully detained but she was released within a few weeks, paid compensation and lives safe and sound in Beijing.

I'll believe that when I see actual proof. Not some assurances from the government, I don't trust the government.

The banning of Russians from Wimbledon was far worse as it was an arrogant display of English racism.

Didn't agree with that decision either but those are two very different situations. All those players lost prize money and ranking points, but they're safe and sound.

 

[GodlessEndeavor]

If you ban countries for stuff they have done wrong, you won't have many countries left.

It's not about that I think. It's about banning countries that aren't safe for athletes.

But since the WTA has clearly shown that Saudi Arabia is "just fine" despite their mistreatment of women and LGBT people, I guess that's not a huge concern

 

[Aussie Darcy]

If you ban countries for stuff they have done wrong, you won't have many countries left.

I think the difference is countries actively doing wrong things like genocide, collecting people from a certain religion and putting them in camps etc vs countries that have done wrong things in the past.

Not that it makes it ok but we need to do something and make sure a stand is taken. And when you look at nations like China, Israel and Saudi Arabia, it's quite clear we need to stomp that out.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

It's not about that I think. It's about banning countries that aren't safe for athletes.

But since the WTA has clearly shown that Saudi Arabia is "just fine" despite their mistreatment of women and LGBT people, I guess that's not a huge concern

It's truly awful. Kasatkina, an openly lesbian athlete had to get assurances from the WTA that she would be safe to play the WTA Finals as an alternate.

In what world do we accept that that's how things should be done? Seeking assurances from your employer that you won't be arrested or punished for being gay? It's disgusting.

China is no different. Sure they'll put on a show just like Saudi Arabia but we all know that Peng Shuai isn't holidaying in Beijing as I just saw a user (that i've long blocked) suggested.

 

[Bartelby]

There have been many public outings for Peng Shuai, which indicates that she is willing to participate presumably because she was paid compensation.

Given Peng Shuai is safe and sound and with a healthy bank balance, the Russian players fared worse.

I'll believe that when I see actual proof. Not some assurances from the government, I don't trust the government.



Didn't agree with that decision either but those are two very different situations. All those players lost prize money and ranking points, but they're safe and sound.

 

[ibbi]

The headline for your thread seems grim until you realize the other person got a 1 month ban

 

[Bartelby]

China is not committing genocide. China is merely authoritarian and repressive, but a far more humane state than Saudi Arabia. There is no comparison.

I'd be happy to live in China, but not to be a citizen. It would be a disgrace if tennis were withdrawn from China, but there is an ill wind blowing from the West.

I think the difference is countries actively doing wrong things like genocide, collecting people from a certain religion and putting them in camps etc vs countries that have done wrong things in the past.

Not that it makes it ok but we need to do something and make sure a stand is taken. And when you look at nations like China, Israel and Saudi Arabia, it's quite clear we need to stomp that out.

 

[zagor]

There have been many public outings for Peng Shuai, which indicates that she is willing to participate presumably because she was paid compensation.

Proof man, show me proof.

 

[Bartelby]

If I can find newspaper articles about her meeting various foreign sporting dignitaries then you can too, but it suits you not to look.

Proof man, show me proof.

 

[Gazelle]

I think the difference is countries actively doing wrong things like genocide, collecting people from a certain religion and putting them in camps etc vs countries that have done wrong things in the past.

Not that it makes it ok but we need to do something and make sure a stand is taken. And when you look at nations like China, Israel and Saudi Arabia, it's quite clear we need to stomp that out.

Is Australia in the clear on this topic?

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Is Australia in the clear on this topic?

No, we've established that next to no country is truly good. But others are restricting women's and LGBT rights (Saudi Arabia), sending Uyghurs to concentration camps (China), slaughtering thousands of innocent Palestinians (Israel) or invading another nation and bombing them into oblivion (Russia).

I'm not happy with many things my government is doing right now but we aren't impacting tennis by endangering the lives of players unlike Russia, unlike China, unlike Saudi Arabia, unlike Israel.

 

[Bartelby]

No Uyghurs are being sent to concentration camps although factory work is harsh. This is a claim awaiting proof, as some might say.

Australia's treatment of the Indigenous people is disgraceful, although the Maori are now being treated far worse.

This does not impact tennis so neither China nor Australia should be banned.

No, we've established that next to no country is truly good. But others are restricting women's and LGBT rights (Saudi Arabia), sending Uyghurs to concentration camps (China), slaughtering thousands of innocent Palestinians (Israel) or invading another nation and bombing them into oblivion (Russia).

I'm not happy with many things my government is doing right now but we aren't impacting tennis by endangering the lives of players unlike Russia, unlike China, unlike Saudi Arabia, unlike Israel.

 

[FeroBango]

No Uyghurs are being sent to concentration camps. This is an invention of Western propaganda.

Australia's treatment of the indigenous people is disgraceful, although the Maori are being treated far worse.

This does not impact tennis since it's a predominantly white sport. Neither China nor Australia, however, should be banned.

I don't believe it's propoganda but truly, anywhere the whites have gone, the natives have been tinkered with to say the least, and this includes the current good guys that Canada are, for example.

 

[FreeJannik]

From what I have read from newspapers the ban, if it happen, can’t last less than 1 year. Swiatek case is totally different, it’s like comparing 2 different “crimes”.

 

[Bartelby]

One year is the lowest starting point, but Sinner can certainly receive a far lesser ban, I would bet on around four or five months, but slightly more might be possible.

The trick to the Sinner case is that there was clearly fault or negligence in the Sinner team and he just can't avoid a penalty because others were involved. It's his team after all.

From what I have read from newspapers the ban, if it happen, can’t last less than 1 year. Swiatek case is totally different, it’s like comparing 2 different “crimes”.

 

[FreeJannik]

One year is the lowest starting point, but Sinner can certainly receive a far lesser ban, I would bet on around four or five months, but slightly more might be possible.

The trick to the Sinner case is that there was clearly fault or negligence in the Sinner team and he just can't avoid a penalty because others were involved. It's his team after all.

Are you sure he can get less than 1 year? from what I’ve read it’s impossible… it is not allowed by the rules.

 

[Rovesciarete]

God, we are once again talking about genocide in a contamination case, talk about escalation. Guys talking tough about minuscule traces are defending the former! Repetitive, bad first post and still it is all downhill from that...