Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by lendl lives, Jul 2, 2004.
i've been waiting for this one!! both of them seem too good for everyone else.
Federer is too good for Roddick..
Fed is too good and Roddick is a break point down in the second, so hold your horses, Ancic might just come back and level the match.
Federer will be to much for Roddick, I saw the Fed V Grosjean semi live today and Fed looks far better in real life than on TV!!!
Scary really, he will take Roddick apart exactly like last year. I can't praise him enough.
I got a question... when is the final going to be? I've been searching the nbc and espn sites and no luck in finding out what day this happen. I am going on vacation and would like to record the final but is tthere even a tentative schedule?
true, but wen its break point against roddick, 3 aces/unreturned serves (which happen often wen roddick serves) n the games gone in 15 seconds.
I am new here. If all is right and normal in the world Federer should prevail over Roddick easily. For me it would be devestating to see Roddick win with his rather boring clumsy style.
Roddick wins only becuase of his serve. Take that away and he is often reduced to counterpunching. He doesn't have the shot making ability to place a ball precisely and think on his feet shifting position automatcially with the fluidity that Federer has.
I hope Federer puts Roddick in his place because maybe then the networks will get the idea that Federer is the great player that they should be featuring in their prime spots.
Roddick obviously can't break Federer. No one can. The only chance he has is to hold serve the entire match with his big gun and pray that he can get lucky in the tiebreaks when Federer turns up the heat. It may appear to be a close match, but Roddick is going to be struggling to stay in it.
Federer in an easy five sets.
Please not 5 sets! My nerves couldn't take it. Federer's got to win big in 3 sets!
I'm a fan of both these guys, but let's be for real. Federer's game is another level above the rest of the field so Roddick's chances are slim. I wouldn't be disappointed if Andy won though, shocked, but not disappointed.
Am I the only one who thinks it's going to be relatively close? How many times do you think Roger will break Andy's serve? I see maybe two tie brakes. Besides, that'd be pretty boring if it was another one sided final.
Roddick may be able to easily hold against most players on tour but this is Roger Federer. That ball is going to be returned with authority.
Geez guys, it seems most people here just LOVE to bash Roddick. Is it just something about an intense guy that chaps ya'll in the wrong places? I mean come on, ya'll take away his serve, and ya'll might as well take away something from Fed too. Look at any champion in the last 30years, and if you were to take away their big shot, or main attribute, they too would drop down a notch. Don't know why everybody's bashing the kid for having a big serve and relying on it. Don't see anybody here that could beat Roddick even if he was reduced to "counterpunching."
WOW, I wonder what would happen if you took away Roger's serve? GEE, NOBODY WOULD START THE DAMN POINT.
Thanks for being one sided and nominal. You sir, are banished.
Roddick isn't that bad w/o his serve, he could still win, he wouldn't be ranked as high, but still a pro. Roddick smashes the crap out of the ball, but does make a few rim shots. As with federer, he can put it anywhere but not with the amount of pace as roddick. I think it could become a awesome final if roddick gets the 3.5 free points a game from his serve.
Federer isn't like everyone else on tour. Fed is great at serve returns. Roddick definitely isn't going to get as many free points on serve as he usually does.
i agree that federer has a more interesting playing style, but that doesn't make Roddick bad, in fact he's pretty good, except that Roddick is all ESPN shows, which sucks.
I think Fed won't have trouble controlling Roddick's serve. It might take him a set to sense and accomodate himself to adjust his return to Roddick's serves (the big one and the kicker one, which is good too), but once he does he should take control on the course of the match.
Roddick may win some greats points here and there during the match, but I see Fed retaining the title in 4 sets.
The weather can be a wild card here... it seems there is a momentum shift everytime the players come back on the court. Even Fed is not immune to this.
It will be interesting. lets see. This Fed-Rodick rivalry on fast surface is shaping up to equal the Sampras-Agassi dual we had in the past, it's great.
Come On Tim!!!!!!
Fed in 3 with a close first set. That's seems to be the theme of most of his finals. Sure nobody wants another one-sided final, but it always turns out that way. Fed will save his best for last. Roddick must keep his first serve percentage 70% plus to keep the pressure on.
Aoya, you made me blow milk out my nose. :lol:
why is this everyones comeback when they have nothing to say? because a bunch of internet yahoos cant beat a pro doesnt mean they cant talk about that pros deficiencies...
if youreplaced roddicks serve with an average one he would be playing tennis for the university of nebraska not playing for the wimbledon title...
It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.
Roger doesn't serve as hard as the big servers and he knows it. That's why he finds other ways to win.....such as serve placement and his all court game. He also uses different spins and change of pace play and manuvering.
It's not to say Roddick's baseline game is horrible ....but all players even Agassi says that once you are in a rally with Roddick you have a pretty good chance of winning the point. Roddick's baseline game is not that of a top ten player.
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Fed shall win in 4 sets, he may loose one, the first one, on a tie break.
i've never seen:
1. roddick so hyped up and nervous
2. roddick's serve be nuetralized (how did this happen?)
3. federer's backhand broken down by power.
thing i didn't see this match:
1. rod hitting his raquet and saying good shot.
Well, I've never seen:
1. Roddick volleying the way he did on that game in the 1st set where he was 0-40 down. He looked like a true serve and volleyer
2. Fed taken out of his rhythm......let me rephrase....Fed NOT FINDING HIS rhythm due to another player's power
3. Fed display such mental toughness.....he knew early on he was being beaten but hung in there and made some changes and whatever it took to win........had he done that in last year's U.S. Open we may have seen Roddick vs. Fed in the semis
Things I didn't see in the match:
Mediocrity-----this match was extremely high level no matter what anyone says on the contrary.
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