Roddick's chances at wimby

RCizzle65

Hall of Fame
People saying Roddick looks real bad?

Up a set and break from what I see.

Doesn't mean he's playing well, he definitely wasn't dictating play like he should be able to, also saw him slicing his backhand when Baker is pulled out to the forehand side, he should just hit through it, wth. You would think he would get the memo after his past big wins over Nadal and Federer, especially since the Federer match was the last match he won, and the whole world tells him to be more aggressive....
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
Someone saying Roddick's chances are higher than Federer's? You are having a laugh.

Roddick can go deep, but probably achieving what Federer has achieved 32 times in a row, is the deepest Roddick will go and an amazing feat for him. That's how big the difference between them is.
 
Roddick was getting challenged by Baker. Its not a given that he even gets out of that match. Roddick would be handeled by ferrer if he could make it that far. He cant hurt Ferrer off the ground so he would have to serve like a mad man and Ferrer can return. I really dont see how Andy can make a run based on what I saw in his 1st rounder. He wasnt dictating play at all and went to duece on nearly every service game. It would be nice to see Andy do well, but with his injury issues and lack of form I dont think 2012 is the year for him to make a run into the second week.

This is what I say. If Roddick nails that serve, he wins the match. Dustin Brown isn't going to beat Daveed today, but he's given him all he can handle with that nuked serve of his.

But if he has to go to deuce on all his serves...buh bye Andy. Ferrer's just so damned scary consistent with his game, and people forget he hasn't lost to anyone other than the top 3 in three whole months. He doesn't beat himself, he doesn't make a zillion mistakes, and you have to work to get a point. Even in that match against Nadal that Nadal played like an absolute god, he still ran everything down to the bitter end. Grass isn't even his surface(only two titles), and he's playing crazy good on that too.

It will be a good match, should they get there, but it all depends on Roddick's serve.
 

axel89

Banned
guys roddick played pretty good idk what you guys expect him to play god like tennis please do not expect anything above average from him it rarely happens. HE HIT A DIVING VOLLEY WINNER FOR GOD SAKE!
 

onyxrose81

Hall of Fame
Up until that match with Murray (and to a lesser extent, Hewitt the previous round), Roddick wasn't really playing all that well in 2009. He turned it up in the second week. I don't think that's going to happen this year but I'm just saying that with Roddick these days, you can't bet on what will happen in just one match. It's a Jekyll and Hyde thing with him.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
Roddick played much better than he has for quite sometime, but he'll need to really work on being more aggressive off the first strike. He's too content to hit his backhand also, needs to just run around and unload on the forehand and shorten points up.
 

romeo8880

G.O.A.T.
Roddick played much better than he has for quite sometime, but he'll need to really work on being more aggressive off the first strike. He's too content to hit his backhand also, needs to just run around and unload on the forehand and shorten points up.




This. Those backhand slices that he does are stupid. He needs to be very aggressive with the forehand.
 

KennethJay

New User
Quote from Roddick at Wimby "No. I don't think so, no. The whole reason you play is to try to win something. Winning is fun, losing sucks. I don't know that that will ever change. I don't think I'm ever here to go through the motions."
 

Fugazi

Professional
Given that Federer's chances of winning are around 10% (85% chance of getting to the semis x 40% chance of beating Djoko x 30% chance of beating Rafa), I'd say Roddick's chances are very slim... 1% is generous.
 
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merwy

G.O.A.T.
Given that Federer's chances are around 8.5% (85% chance of getting to the semis x 40% chance of beating Djoko x 30% chance of beating Rafa). Roddick's chances are very slim... 1% is generous.


Are you really giving Federer that little of a chance against his rivals on grass? 30% against rafa is very little..I think it should be both 40%. Also lets give him a 90% chance of making the semis since there is more or less no one in Fed's way. I REALLY do not see him losing to tipsy and I would be very very disappointed if he does.

Anyway this would make 90%x40%x40%=14,4%.. which still isn't much.

Lets try Nadal (I'll just give them all 90% chance of making the semis): I'll give him 75% against Murray which I think is pretty fair, and he plays djokovic in the finals since Djoko has more chance of winning the semis.

90%x75%x50%=33%

That's quite a lot.

And Djokovic: 90%x60%x50%=27%


Well it seems like Nadal has got the biggest chance of winning and Fed's chances are very slim. Fortunately these calculations are complete bullsh1t and based on almost nothing.
 
N

NadalAgassi

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I would give Federer about 20% chance if he plays Nadal at best. He hasnt beaten Nadal in a slam since 2007, and Nadal has been a better grass court player ever since he first won the title at Wimbledon in 2008 as well. His chances in the U.S Open vs Nadal might be 40%.
 

egn

Hall of Fame
Besides, has brian baker even achieved much on grass before?

Lol has Jamie Baker achieved anything on grass before? I don't count beating Donald Young as achieving something. Jamie Baker's achievement is being British and getting wildcarded into so many Wimbledon. Brian Baker has already done better than Jamie Baker in his first wimbledon after being injured for his whole career practically. Besides as of late with Brian Bakers come back he has been the Baker everyone is referring to do. Though the all caps response was a bit ridiculous.
 

Fugazi

Professional
Are you really giving Federer that little of a chance against his rivals on grass? 30% against rafa is very little..I think it should be both 40%. Also lets give him a 90% chance of making the semis since there is more or less no one in Fed's way. I REALLY do not see him losing to tipsy and I would be very very disappointed if he does.

Anyway this would make 90%x40%x40%=14,4%.. which still isn't much.

Lets try Nadal (I'll just give them all 90% chance of making the semis): I'll give him 75% against Murray which I think is pretty fair, and he plays djokovic in the finals since Djoko has more chance of winning the semis.

90%x75%x50%=33%

That's quite a lot.

And Djokovic: 90%x60%x50%=27%


Well it seems like Nadal has got the biggest chance of winning and Fed's chances are very slim. Fortunately these calculations are complete bullsh1t and based on almost nothing.
Fed's doubts against Rafa
And the slow grass propaganda
Will increase Nadal's chances in the end
To make Roger bow and bend

Although there's nothing I'd rather see
Than the King of grass! Fed again to be
I fear that Humbalito is more prone
To monkey his way onto the throne

As much as I enjoyed your pitch
From my 30 percent I won't switch
Nadal's spirit will prevail
He'll get money, women and ale!
 
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Crispix

Rookie
I hope roddicks form is a result of him saving energy for later matches, cause he isn't that flash right now, but he's getting it done at least.
 

1477aces

Hall of Fame
I was only able to catch the last 2 games of the third set (in the third set), but roddick was hitting very aggressively, whacking the serves and forehands as hard as he could. I think he started this agressivenes down a break in the third, correct me if I am wrong. I hope roddick continues this against ferrer, because he will need it to win.
 

dascud

New User
As much I disliked Roddick over the years mostly for his brattish behaviour on court I feel that he deserves a wimbledon title. I would be kinda happy if Roddick somehow managed to steal this years title over the usual favorites.
 

Faster

Hall of Fame
As much I disliked Roddick over the years mostly for his brattish behaviour on court I feel that he deserves a wimbledon title. I would be kinda happy if Roddick somehow managed to steal this years title over the usual favorites.

Federer also said in his post second round interview that Roddick deserved at least one win in the Wimbledon finals against him.
 

Cfidave

Professional
As much I disliked Roddick over the years mostly for his brattish behaviour on court I feel that he deserves a wimbledon title. I would be kinda happy if Roddick somehow managed to steal this years title over the usual favorites.

No offense, but you may want to change your user name to " California Dreamer".
 
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1477aces

Hall of Fame
Federer also said in his post second round interview that Roddick deserved at least one win in the Wimbledon finals against him.

Of course, roddick would have won the 2004 wimbledon final if not for the rain delays, that would have given him the #1 ranking. I think if not for the rain delays, roddick would have won atleast 4 slams, and fed would have won only 10-11 slams, he would have lost a lot of confidence when he lost to roddick.
 
Things seem to be going Roddick's way in the bottom half of the draw. His biggest threat is eliminated, and if he could beat Ferrer, well everything is possible.

It's either Murray or Roddick from that half now. Perhaps Tsonga, but I don't think so.
 

1477aces

Hall of Fame
Things seem to be going Roddick's way in the bottom half of the draw. His biggest threat is eliminated, and if he could beat Ferrer, well everything is possible.

It's either Murray or Roddick from that half now. Perhaps Tsonga, but I don't think so.

Whoa. Don't get ahead of yourself. roddick has to attack, or else he is going to get mauled by ferrer. He also has to get past delpo, which will be tricky. He does stand the second highest chance at winning this half, but murray is far more likely. Raonic and those clowns aren't beating murray.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Roddicks chances definitely increased big time with Nadals exit, but that does not make him a lock for the final in any sense. Ferrer will be tough. He just won a grass tournament and made a major SF. Ferrer is having a decent year and has to be feeling very good right now. Roddick to beat him will have to do what he did at the US Open and impose himself on his serve. If he can quickly put all the pressure on Ferrer to repeatedly hold and return well he can beat him.

Delpo will be a test as well. Delpo has however been sort of up and down in the last year, but he has steadily workes his way upwards in the rankings whereas Roddick has been largely going the other way. Delpo has variety and could really screw Andy up if he gets ahead early.

The key to Ferrer is really to be efficient and end it quickly. Andy cannot afford to be drawn into a grinder battle. Even if he wins it he does not wanna go 5. Delpo will be to take charge of the rallies and box him in, do not let him start using spin or the whole court.

Even if he gets past them...that only puts him in the QF and still 2 matches away. Not having Rafa as a possible in there makes his life much easier though. Murray is very beatable well...who knows. Its kinda tricky but not so tricky he cannot pull it out if he plays smart and his strengths well.
 
Whoa. Don't get ahead of yourself. roddick has to attack, or else he is going to get mauled by ferrer. He also has to get past delpo, which will be tricky. He does stand the second highest chance at winning this half, but murray is far more likely. Raonic and those clowns aren't beating murray.

Well, if anything I think Roddick is looking at this result and thinks "right, I might actually be able to pull this off!". He can, but as you say he's got to channel ye olde Roddick and be aggressive.
 

LetsGoRoddick

Professional
Well, Roddick clearly has to beat Ferrer for people to start thinking semi or final. But let's also not write off Nishikori as a potential opponent here as well because Del Potro doesn't seem to be the greatest grass courter.
 
Well, Roddick clearly has to beat Ferrer for people to start thinking semi or final. But let's also not write off Nishikori as a potential opponent here as well because Del Potro doesn't seem to be the greatest grass courter.

I'm thinking it can happen. A less than healthy Roddick beat Ferrer last USO, and ARod's riding a hot streak right now. Grass should help him out. It'll be physical, though.
 
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