Roger : best ever, The four of us? That’s a really difficult call.

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    Okay, I forgot about the advice about the "edit". I think I will not make the electronic mistake again. Going to give it one more try. Here is my reply to BobbyOne's question, "Where do you make a cut for Laver/Rosewall encounters?"

    I have thought about this. "Where do you make a cut for Laver/Rosewall encounters?" That is a great question.

    I made the cuts where I stated above. And that is where I make them still and my answer will be the very slight advantage Laver. However, if we pare down to the bare essentials of Major and near-Major tournaments (or events), Rosewall does nick the win, 10-9. Here is how I think it plays out: In absolute Majors, Rosewall has the edge, 7-6. Interestingly, The Little Master led 5-2, 1963-65, and Rocket led 4-2, 1966-69.

    I may misunderstand, but the impression I get is that you (and Krosero) consider the WCT finals to be a virtual Major, close enough that it makes no difference. If that is the case, then you must also include the 1970 and 1971 TCC, and the 1967 Wimbledon Pro. That would make things a tie, at nine victories each. Note that I do not think that you "must also include" the 1970 Grand Prix Masters, which, if you did include it, would have given Laver a 10-9 lead. I am trying to be Krosero-like careful here. And, I also have to be transparent: I consider Rosewall's 1963 WCS tour victory to be a Major, giving Kenny number 10. And that gives him the historical edge.

    Reducing the number of matches considered as the "key matches" of their rivalry is a legitimate approach, obviously. I am going to stick to my own list, with adjustments to bring in the NSW Pro, per Krosero's observation. Where I make the "cut", Laver will have the edge. But I will also point out this alternative criterion, which gives the edge to Rosewall.

    (I did not quote much of what you wrote in your Post, just to make sure I could get my reply in under the word limit. Your other comments were good, but the comment I needed to think about was "Where do you make a cut for Laver/Rosewall encounters?")
     
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