You speak like Nadal and Djokovic never lost important matches.Damn had Fed just won one more point he honestly would’ve been the undisputed GOAT. Now it looks like he could end up as the third best player of his era...crazy to think how much historical significance that match had in store
I never said they didn’t but neither of them came so close to winning such a monumental event just to see it slip out of their hands. That loss was absolutely brutal for Fed and as a result, he could very well finish his career as the third best player behind Rafa and Nole.You speak like Nadal and Djokovic never lost important matches.
You'd think he's one based on how he conducts himself on court.the big news being that he is just a human and has emotions?
did someone believe that he is a robot with some flesh on top, a la Terminator style?
Maybe Kyrgios cry himself to sleep while his mother stroke his hair.It'd be weird if he didn't cry. It just shows how much he loves the game. RAFA cried after the 07 Wimby final and AO 2014 final. Joker cried during the 2015 RG final and after getting knocked out of the 1st round in Rio Olympics. Sir Andeh cried after the 2012 Wimby final. Not everyone is Nicky Kyrgios out there not giving a damn.
Hair only a mother could love.Maybe Kyrgios cry himself to sleep while his mother stroke his hair.
TrueHair only a mother could love.
Novak's net rush at RG was pretty close to 40-15.I never said they didn’t but neither of them came so close to winning such a monumental event just to see it slip out of their hands. That loss was absolutely brutal for Fed and as a result, he could very well finish his career as the third best player behind Rafa and Nole.
Serving at 40-15 double championship point, He was serving!!!.
I can accept him losing if he was returning serve because that part of his game has been sub-par. But he was serving for it. And on grass!!.
It should have been a gimmee like all the service games he won easily after that horrible serve game. That pissed me off even more that he held those games easily but could't do what he needed at the most important point of the match.
If he won this, it would have neutralized his previous 2 Wimbeldon losses to Novak.
mental GOAT for sure. Did he get that from Becker? wasn't it Becker who coached him when he beat Fed at their 1st Wimbledon final in 15'?Thanks to this match , Novak will be remembered as one of Mental giants of the Sport .
Had fed won it , He would have been crowned GOAT for eternity , by Media and his fans .
After 40-15 , Novak actually played simple text book tennis and he expected Fed to make errors and Fed obliged .
mental GOAT for sure. Did he get that from Becker? wasn't it Becker who coached him when he beat Fed the 1st at Wimbledon?
No missed sitters, putaways or overheads, and no double faults. Just because he didn't ruthlessly seize them doesn't mean he squandered them; I mean, that's at least not the word I'd use if he merely played suboptimally while the opponent didn't miss. Also, you'd be surprised how quickly the mind betrays you once the body gets tired. The final furlong can often get scrappy.I understand, however Rafa didn't have match points in that match.
It hurts a lot less when I know my guy (usually Fed) had no chance, as opposed to having chances and squandering them.
Damn had Fed just won one more point he honestly would’ve been the undisputed GOAT. Now it looks like he could end up as the third best player of his era...crazy to think how much historical significance that match had in store
It was and still is hilarious.But you're not his fan.
There was nothing funny about it.
If I were a Nadal fan, I'd think that the AO17 loss would be the worst. Up a break in the 5th vs a guy whose heart he'd gleefully broken from 2008-14.
Although since he's assured to wind up at 30 GS titles, I don't think that Nadal fans and Fedfans can measure failures in the same way.
Literally 1 point.
There is no GOAT race here. Fed let his main rivals win 35 slams, Nadal 36, Djokovic 39. No one is particularly dominant. Call me when someone goes undefeated 5 years in a row.Should Rafa end up with 1 more slam than Fed when all is said and done, that moment will symbolize his failed struggle in the GOAT race.
And a reminder of his own arrogant finger wag to Novak in RG 2011.
That's almost a given.
Why not?
He's on 19 now.
Why can't he win 5-6 more French Opens? No reason.
The tour is so titled in favor of the Clay season that his strategy is unbeatable. He skips large portions of the year and still gets seeded #2 or #3 in every Slam because of all the clay points.
He could easily do this another 5 years, there is no one to consistently challenge him on clay.
And for as bad as he has been on hard courts...he just won the US Open with the help of an extremely weak draw, and do we honestly believe this will be the last time that will happen?
I see him getting 5-7 more French titles, and 2-3 more outside of that (likely US and/or Wimbledon)
Hmm, interesting.
So was it worse for you when Rafa lost in straights to Djoker at AO19, than when he blew a 3-1 lead over Fed in the 5th in 2017?
For me that was the most crushing defeat, also Rafas reaction was the most heartbreaking of all losses. He didnt have matchpoint but it was really bad in other ways.
Not if he doesn't win another, though.It may not end up being a pivotal moment in tennis history after all one day, tennis changes fast
it only feels final now, if he wins a slam, that gets washed away.
I don’t like Stan that much... I like Federer better! Federer had some crushing losses to Rafa, so the loss in AO wasn’t so bad for me.I never got as upset over that 2014 AO final as other Rafa fans. I was mainly surprised at the shock result but also happy for Stan.
But you're right, there's no doubt that the stakes were high in that match. To think that Rafa could have already achieved the double career slam 5 years ago is crazy.
If he did half of that I'd never think about Wimbledon'19 again lolI'm still pissed off and upset about it over 2 months later.
The ONLY way I would ever get over it 100% is Federer defeating Djokovic in the Wimbledon final next year.
Fed could go on a mission from here and beat Novak at WTF, Australian Open, French Open, Olympics and US Open, and as good as that would be I would still look back at 40-15 gate and be upset about it.
Deep down I know that was Fed's last chance to beat Novak in a Wimbledon final; at best he has 2 Wimbledon's left and I don't see the stars aligning like they did this year. I think that is what hurts the most is that the chance is gone.
You know what ?
Novak was totally blameless for that Fed choke.
He had already conceded defeat at 40-15 after these 2 aces.
He simply played these 2 points by instinct, in total resignation almost.
Which makes what ensued so crazy and mind-boggling.
Have never been able to overcome that defeat. Most crushing for me. It changed next 3-4 years of Tennis. If Nadal has held onto his serves in 5th after breaking Fed early in set, I don't think Fed would have got any more GS beyong 17 and Rafa would have been sitting at 20-21 already. That win revitalized Federer who had not won any GS for 4 years and half.
I still haven't been able to watch any of the highlights of that match.
If he had hit a backhand cross-court he would have been in control of the point, seemed like he got impatient. However he shouldn't have missed the forehand on the first point, that was a key moment IMO.
Also should have challenged the 1st serve at deuce as I am 100% sure it was in.......
Ever seen a replay of that serve? How else can you be a 100% sure. Often on television it looks in and when it gets challenged I see that it was out. I am genuinely curious.
Watch it on YouTube and pause it, let me know what you think. I am convinced from watching live, the replay and also on YouTube.
Had he challenged and it was in, I wonder if Djokovic would have claimed to have had a play on it...
I'd rather not, would pain me even more if I saw that it was in. I'll take your word for it.
On a second thought, why the hell would Federer NOT challenge it? He had nothing to lose and would have gotten a short pause to think about his second serve if it would have been out. I just don't get that guy.
He would have cried even if he had won. His crying was the only thing that was certain in that epic match.
Nadal cried after 2007 Wimbledon final.
So what?
The crowd is a big factor too. They help fuel the emotions running through you. They bring it out.Exactly! What’s the big deal about this? Rafa cried after beating Med in 5 sets.
Has no one here ever been physically exhausted after a sporting event? Something about the exhaustion I think makes the emotions of the moment easy to boil over.
Okay, how on earth is that lack of sportsmanship and cynicism? She’s rooting for, presumably, her favorite player, who was one point away from winning the biggest tennis tournament in the world. I’m sure thousands of fans have made similar gestures in similar situations. I seriously see nothing malignant or ill-intentioned about that.That's lovely that woman instantly became an icon of cynicism, lack of respect and poor sportsmanship.
Her arrogant gesture will be teased forever and ever.
Some people just like the sport event outcomes which punish that kind of audacious attitude.
It might hurt less in a few years if Djokovic wins the Slam race.I still just can't believe it got away from him. Damn it damn it damn it.
Yeah, he tried to run around too deep a return that point. A good play but Djokovic’s return was just too good.If he had hit a backhand cross-court at 40-15 he would have been in control of the point, seemed like he got impatient. However he shouldn't have missed the forehand on the first point, that was a key moment IMO.
Also should have challenged the 1st serve at deuce as I am 100% sure it was in.......
That's lovely that woman instantly became an icon of cynicism, lack of respect and poor sportsmanship.
Her arrogant gesture will be teased forever and ever.
Some people just like the sport event outcomes which punish that kind of audacious attitude.