Roger Federer admits he cried after losing to Novak Djokovic in the 2019 Wimbledon final

clout

Hall of Fame
Damn had Fed just won one more point he honestly would’ve been the undisputed GOAT. Now it looks like he could end up as the third best player of his era...crazy to think how much historical significance that match had in store
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
Damn had Fed just won one more point he honestly would’ve been the undisputed GOAT. Now it looks like he could end up as the third best player of his era...crazy to think how much historical significance that match had in store
You speak like Nadal and Djokovic never lost important matches.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
You speak like Nadal and Djokovic never lost important matches.
I never said they didn’t but neither of them came so close to winning such a monumental event just to see it slip out of their hands. That loss was absolutely brutal for Fed and as a result, he could very well finish his career as the third best player behind Rafa and Nole.
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
It'd be weird if he didn't cry. It just shows how much he loves the game. RAFA cried after the 07 Wimby final and AO 2014 final. Joker cried during the 2015 RG final and after getting knocked out of the 1st round in Rio Olympics. Sir Andeh cried after the 2012 Wimby final. Not everyone is Nicky Kyrgios out there not giving a damn.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
It'd be weird if he didn't cry. It just shows how much he loves the game. RAFA cried after the 07 Wimby final and AO 2014 final. Joker cried during the 2015 RG final and after getting knocked out of the 1st round in Rio Olympics. Sir Andeh cried after the 2012 Wimby final. Not everyone is Nicky Kyrgios out there not giving a damn.
Maybe Kyrgios cry himself to sleep while his mother stroke his hair.
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
Maybe Kyrgios cry himself to sleep while his mother stroke his hair.
Hair only a mother could love.
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OhYes

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I never said they didn’t but neither of them came so close to winning such a monumental event just to see it slip out of their hands. That loss was absolutely brutal for Fed and as a result, he could very well finish his career as the third best player behind Rafa and Nole.
Novak's net rush at RG was pretty close to 40-15.
 

a10best

Legend
Serving at 40-15 double championship point, He was serving!!!.
I can accept him losing if he was returning serve because that part of his game has been sub-par. But he was serving for it. And on grass!!.
It should have been a gimmee like all the service games he won easily after that horrible serve game. That pissed me off even more that he held those games easily but could't do what he needed at the most important point of the match.
If he won this, it would have neutralized his previous 2 Wimbeldon losses to Novak.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Thanks to this match , Novak will be remembered as one of Mental giants of the Sport .
Had fed won it , He would have been crowned GOAT for eternity , by Media and his fans .
After 40-15 , Novak actually played simple text book tennis and he expected Fed to make errors and Fed obliged .
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Serving at 40-15 double championship point, He was serving!!!.
I can accept him losing if he was returning serve because that part of his game has been sub-par. But he was serving for it. And on grass!!.
It should have been a gimmee like all the service games he won easily after that horrible serve game. That pissed me off even more that he held those games easily but could't do what he needed at the most important point of the match.
If he won this, it would have neutralized his previous 2 Wimbeldon losses to Novak.

At 40-15 Novak's 1st return at Fed's feet was superb and that return actually made Fed bit nervous ,and after that Djoker played simple low risk efficient tennis . Fed was just too afraid to play during that game .
 

a10best

Legend
Thanks to this match , Novak will be remembered as one of Mental giants of the Sport .
Had fed won it , He would have been crowned GOAT for eternity , by Media and his fans .
After 40-15 , Novak actually played simple text book tennis and he expected Fed to make errors and Fed obliged .
mental GOAT for sure. Did he get that from Becker? wasn't it Becker who coached him when he beat Fed at their 1st Wimbledon final in 15'?
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
mental GOAT for sure. Did he get that from Becker? wasn't it Becker who coached him when he beat Fed the 1st at Wimbledon?

I won't use the word GOAT lol , too much fan-wars over the word 'goat ' . :D
Definately Mental Giant , and don't know if Becker should be credited for it coz during USO 10 and 11 , Djoker displayed bigger Mental prowess versus Fed and Vajda was his coach back then .

Maybe , Personally I felt Djoker always plays GR8 in adversity . Win or lose but he always plays fearless and free-flowing when he is on verge of defeat . Sometimes he lose and sometimes he make great comebacks and win it ..
Poor Fed was at the receiving end on 3 occasions .
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
I understand, however Rafa didn't have match points in that match.

It hurts a lot less when I know my guy (usually Fed) had no chance, as opposed to having chances and squandering them.
No missed sitters, putaways or overheads, and no double faults. Just because he didn't ruthlessly seize them doesn't mean he squandered them; I mean, that's at least not the word I'd use if he merely played suboptimally while the opponent didn't miss. Also, you'd be surprised how quickly the mind betrays you once the body gets tired. The final furlong can often get scrappy.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Damn had Fed just won one more point he honestly would’ve been the undisputed GOAT. Now it looks like he could end up as the third best player of his era...crazy to think how much historical significance that match had in store

Literally 1 point.
 

ForumMember

Hall of Fame
If I were a Nadal fan, I'd think that the AO17 loss would be the worst. Up a break in the 5th vs a guy whose heart he'd gleefully broken from 2008-14.

Although since he's assured to wind up at 30 GS titles, I don't think that Nadal fans and Fedfans can measure failures in the same way.

Have never been able to overcome that defeat. Most crushing for me. It changed next 3-4 years of Tennis. If Nadal has held onto his serves in 5th after breaking Fed early in set, I don't think Fed would have got any more GS beyong 17 and Rafa would have been sitting at 20-21 already. That win revitalized Federer who had not won any GS for 4 years and half.

I still haven't been able to watch any of the highlights of that match.
 
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Deleted member 629564

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Is there any video recording from that legendary 5SG16 different to an official BBC broadcast?
 

S'in-net

Semi-Pro
Literally 1 point.

People keep saying Federer was one point away from winning

That would be true if Djokovic was serving and saved matchpoints with aces

Federer was nearer than one point away...It was ball on racket x 4 inside matchpoints

Two weeks inside the tournament to reach that point, backed up by a career heaping achievements onto the apex, to reach that point

That's what the problem is all about

Looks like rest of career will now be a Stalingrad style rearguard action trying desperately to shore up the disappearing apex of the mountain that's now getting climbed by others

Same thing happened with Sampras:-

Finished as clear gap No. 1 on top of mountain full 360° uncluttered view, call it a career
Then went to just No. 1 no clear gap (Federer one slam short)
Then went to joint No. 1 (Federer equaling0
Then went to No 2 (Federer + 1)
Then went to clear gap No. 2 (Federer + 2)
Then went to just No. 2 no clear gap (Nadal - 1)
Then went to joint No. 2 (Nadal equaling)
Then went to No. 3 (Nadal +1)
Then went to clear gap No. 3 (Nadal +2)
Then went to distant, large gap No. 3 (Federer/Nadal + 3 or more)
Then went to just No. 3 no clear gap (Djokovic - 1)
Then went to joint No. 3 (Djokovic equaling)
Then went to No. 4 (Djokovic + 1)
Then went to clear gap No. 4 (Djokovic + 2)

Sampras slid well down the mountain

The ball on racket x 4 thing is the start of the Federer slide which already since then has shifted from Federer clear gap No . 1 to Federer No. 1, no clear gap (Nadal - 1)
 
Not crying after such a tough and stressful loss would've been unhealthy. Bottling strong emotions inside is a problem, letting them out is natural and good for the person.
 

EdSWright

Professional
Should Rafa end up with 1 more slam than Fed when all is said and done, that moment will symbolize his failed struggle in the GOAT race.

And a reminder of his own arrogant finger wag to Novak in RG 2011.

That's almost a given.
There is no GOAT race here. Fed let his main rivals win 35 slams, Nadal 36, Djokovic 39. No one is particularly dominant. Call me when someone goes undefeated 5 years in a row.
 
Why not?

He's on 19 now.

Why can't he win 5-6 more French Opens? No reason.

The tour is so titled in favor of the Clay season that his strategy is unbeatable. He skips large portions of the year and still gets seeded #2 or #3 in every Slam because of all the clay points.

He could easily do this another 5 years, there is no one to consistently challenge him on clay.

And for as bad as he has been on hard courts...he just won the US Open with the help of an extremely weak draw, and do we honestly believe this will be the last time that will happen?

I see him getting 5-7 more French titles, and 2-3 more outside of that (likely US and/or Wimbledon)



Hmm, interesting.

So was it worse for you when Rafa lost in straights to Djoker at AO19, than when he blew a 3-1 lead over Fed in the 5th in 2017?

Even if he gets seven more titles at RG and three elsewhere, which is the top of both your prediction ranges, he'll be on 29 Slams. I am very much an advocate of Nadal doom and gloom, but even I don't think he'll get to 30 Slams. I agree with you that he might well win Roland Garros several more times. I can see him getting to 25 Slams, certainly. 30 seems to be pushing it.
 

MugOpponent

Hall of Fame
Not surprising as it was about the most cruel way to lose a match. Playing much better than Novak but somehow never ahead and then a brief window presents itself and Novak does what he does so well and then you have to play more tennis knowing you probably blew it and that Novak will win the tiebreak.
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
For me that was the most crushing defeat, also Rafas reaction was the most heartbreaking of all losses. He didnt have matchpoint but it was really bad in other ways.

I never got as upset over that 2014 AO final as other Rafa fans. I was mainly surprised at the shock result but also happy for Stan.

But you're right, there's no doubt that the stakes were high in that match. To think that Rafa could have already achieved the double career slam 5 years ago is crazy.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
I never got as upset over that 2014 AO final as other Rafa fans. I was mainly surprised at the shock result but also happy for Stan.

But you're right, there's no doubt that the stakes were high in that match. To think that Rafa could have already achieved the double career slam 5 years ago is crazy.
I don’t like Stan that much... I like Federer better! Federer had some crushing losses to Rafa, so the loss in AO wasn’t so bad for me.
Rafa been soooo close to winning AO... I’m not giving up on that one. I want that one much more than another Wimbledon.
 

pmh1983

New User
I'm still pissed off and upset about it over 2 months later.

The ONLY way I would ever get over it 100% is Federer defeating Djokovic in the Wimbledon final next year.

Fed could go on a mission from here and beat Novak at WTF, Australian Open, French Open, Olympics and US Open, and as good as that would be I would still look back at 40-15 gate and be upset about it.

Deep down I know that was Fed's last chance to beat Novak in a Wimbledon final; at best he has 2 Wimbledon's left and I don't see the stars aligning like they did this year. I think that is what hurts the most is that the chance is gone.
 
I'm still pissed off and upset about it over 2 months later.

The ONLY way I would ever get over it 100% is Federer defeating Djokovic in the Wimbledon final next year.

Fed could go on a mission from here and beat Novak at WTF, Australian Open, French Open, Olympics and US Open, and as good as that would be I would still look back at 40-15 gate and be upset about it.

Deep down I know that was Fed's last chance to beat Novak in a Wimbledon final; at best he has 2 Wimbledon's left and I don't see the stars aligning like they did this year. I think that is what hurts the most is that the chance is gone.
If he did half of that I'd never think about Wimbledon'19 again lol
Not even half, a slam win would be enough.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
You know what ?

Novak was totally blameless for that Fed choke.

He had already conceded defeat at 40-15 after these 2 aces.

He simply played these 2 points by instinct, in total resignation almost.

Which makes what ensued so crazy and mind-boggling.

I really think that if Fed had just dinked his first serve in at 40-15, that Novak would have just sailed a ball long during that point.

The inability to make his first serves on match points is what turned the match.
 

pmh1983

New User
If he had hit a backhand cross-court at 40-15 he would have been in control of the point, seemed like he got impatient. However he shouldn't have missed the forehand on the first point, that was a key moment IMO.

Also should have challenged the 1st serve at deuce as I am 100% sure it was in.......
 

Eren

Professional
Have never been able to overcome that defeat. Most crushing for me. It changed next 3-4 years of Tennis. If Nadal has held onto his serves in 5th after breaking Fed early in set, I don't think Fed would have got any more GS beyong 17 and Rafa would have been sitting at 20-21 already. That win revitalized Federer who had not won any GS for 4 years and half.

I still haven't been able to watch any of the highlights of that match.

You serious lol? Nadal has won many many matches against Federer. This was Federer's first win against Nadal in a Slam match in a decade. It was bound to happen. Nadal wasn't affected too much since he won two Slams that year too. Nadal's most painful losses/loss (is he even has any) have to be 2011-2012 defeats to Djokovic on all surfaces (both times being straight setted on clay in two big finals).
 

Eren

Professional
If he had hit a backhand cross-court he would have been in control of the point, seemed like he got impatient. However he shouldn't have missed the forehand on the first point, that was a key moment IMO.

Also should have challenged the 1st serve at deuce as I am 100% sure it was in.......

Ever seen a replay of that serve? How else can you be a 100% sure. Often on television it looks in and when it gets challenged I see that it was out. I am genuinely curious.
 

pmh1983

New User
Ever seen a replay of that serve? How else can you be a 100% sure. Often on television it looks in and when it gets challenged I see that it was out. I am genuinely curious.

Watch it on YouTube and pause it, let me know what you think. I am convinced from watching live, the replay and also on YouTube.

Had he challenged and it was in, I wonder if Djokovic would have claimed to have had a play on it...
 

Eren

Professional
Watch it on YouTube and pause it, let me know what you think. I am convinced from watching live, the replay and also on YouTube.

Had he challenged and it was in, I wonder if Djokovic would have claimed to have had a play on it...

I'd rather not, would pain me even more if I saw that it was in. I'll take your word for it.

On a second thought, why the hell would Federer NOT challenge it? He had nothing to lose and would have gotten a short pause to think about his second serve if it would have been out. I just don't get that guy.
 

pmh1983

New User
I'd rather not, would pain me even more if I saw that it was in. I'll take your word for it.

On a second thought, why the hell would Federer NOT challenge it? He had nothing to lose and would have gotten a short pause to think about his second serve if it would have been out. I just don't get that guy.

I was screaming at him to challenge it, even if he was wrong just to give him a few moments.

Every point he lost in that game is a what if for me, first point missing the forehand, trying inside out forehand at 40-15, poor approach to the FOREHAND at 40-30, not challenging the serve at deuce and off Novaks return at break point going back cross court rather than up the line. Even the 2 break points at 11 all still hurt, especially the second one.
 

topher

Hall of Fame
He would have cried even if he had won. His crying was the only thing that was certain in that epic match.
Nadal cried after 2007 Wimbledon final.

So what?

Exactly! What’s the big deal about this? Rafa cried after beating Med in 5 sets.

Has no one here ever been physically exhausted after a sporting event? Something about the exhaustion I think makes the emotions of the moment easy to boil over.
 
Exactly! What’s the big deal about this? Rafa cried after beating Med in 5 sets.

Has no one here ever been physically exhausted after a sporting event? Something about the exhaustion I think makes the emotions of the moment easy to boil over.
The crowd is a big factor too. They help fuel the emotions running through you. They bring it out.
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
That's lovely that woman instantly became an icon of cynicism, lack of respect and poor sportsmanship.

Her arrogant gesture will be teased forever and ever.

Some people just like the sport event outcomes which punish that kind of audacious attitude.

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Okay, how on earth is that lack of sportsmanship and cynicism? She’s rooting for, presumably, her favorite player, who was one point away from winning the biggest tennis tournament in the world. I’m sure thousands of fans have made similar gestures in similar situations. I seriously see nothing malignant or ill-intentioned about that.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Every player has cried after losing a big match. Nadal cried after Wimby2007 and during the Ferrer match and after the Stan match, both at the AO. Djokovic cried after the Nadal gold medal match and the Del Potro match both at the Olympics. Murray cried during speeches at Wimbledon2012. The only one who doesn't cry is Kyrgios because he doesn't give that much of a sh*t. LOL
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
If he had hit a backhand cross-court at 40-15 he would have been in control of the point, seemed like he got impatient. However he shouldn't have missed the forehand on the first point, that was a key moment IMO.

Also should have challenged the 1st serve at deuce as I am 100% sure it was in.......
Yeah, he tried to run around too deep a return that point. A good play but Djokovic’s return was just too good.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
That's lovely that woman instantly became an icon of cynicism, lack of respect and poor sportsmanship.

Her arrogant gesture will be teased forever and ever.

Some people just like the sport event outcomes which punish that kind of audacious attitude.

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Lol how is it arrogant when he has double MP and she waited hours to be able to celebrate?
 
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