Roger Federer admits Novak Djokovic can surpass his Grand Slam titles

Do you admit as well?


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Jonas78

Legend
A key part of it will be Federer not getting 18 himself. If he stays at 17, I think ND has a reasonable chance, but not much margin for error.
I think you are right. Fed has probably 2 chances left (Wimbledon16, UsOpen16), at most 4 chances left (W/US 2017). If he wins Halle, i think he has a reasonable chance to win one of them if Novak slips. I also think there is a chance Novak might slip after his huge achievement of winning the last 4 slams. With Novak its impossible to say. If he stays injury-free and keeps the fitness he will have tons of chances. But I think its easy to forget how tough it is to win a slam. To get to 18, Novak still needs the number his coach used his whole career to achieve, and Novak is 29.
 
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I think you are right. Fed has probably 2 chances left (Wimbledon16, UsOpen16), at most 4 chances left (W/US 2017). If he wins Halle, i think he has a reasonable chance to win one of them if Novak slips. I also think there is a chance Novak might slip after his huge achievement of winning the last 4 slams. With Novak its impossible to say. If he stays injury-free and keeps the fitness he will have tons of chances. But I think its easy to forget how tough it is to win a slam. To get to 18, Novak still needs the number his coach used his whole career to achieve, and Novak is 29.

I think that's Federer's best chance out of those 4. Most people think Novak could fade back slightly because he will be on a honeymoon period and I understand that train of thought; but I think the pressure of going for the CYGS would really be where he could slip up. At Wimbledon, I expect to see Novak still playing well. Becker said they are "aware of the historical opportunity", I doubt he's going to fade due to fulfillment, but I do think there's a chance he can't handle the pressure come USO, which isn't exactly his favorite slam either.

Federer, for all his struggles, has consistently been in the semis or finals of Wimbledon and USO the last couple years. A slip up from Novak would put him in position as the favorite as long as Roger can remain relevant with level of play before aging overwhelms him.

I'd put the odds of Roger winning another slam at less than 50 percent, but more than 25.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Good suggestion. @TMF are you able to put that list up so we can all see.
I've posted that list for so many times already and got sick of doing it again. Not only that, some fans like Dedans Penthouse hates it because Sampras stats were inferior to Federer.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
From what I can recall of the stats you used to post in your list, I'd say that ship's sailed already.
Are you saying that Nole has surpassed Nadal on every single stats? No way. Nadal still has some ahead of Nole, especially the slam count which is the biggest and most important one.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Are you saying that Nole has surpassed Nadal on every single stats? No way. Nadal still has some ahead of Nole, especially the slam count which is the biggest and most important one.
He's passed Nadal in most of the stats you used to list so he's closer than close already. And I'm fairly certain that you yourself have argued that there's more to tennis than just slam counts.
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
Yes you do care.

You wish. I couldn't care less. All I care about is Nadal whipped Fed's a**. If Novak overtakes Nadal in every stat, good luck to him because at least Novak didn't have to avoid Nadal unlike Federer who could only win 2 out of his 17 majors by going through Nadal...

I've posted so many times in the past so if you want to see it hit the 'search button'. I'm not here to spoon-feed you.

No, the ones in the past are not up to date. You need to update your list and post it but you can't do that because Federer's stts haven't changed much whereas NOvak is fast approaching him hahahahahaha
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
In my ideal world, Federer or Nadal be crashing the party like

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Roddick85

Hall of Fame
I hope I'm wrong, but I think Federer is done being a legitimate slam contender, especially given his level of play of the last 2 weeks. Unless a miracle happens and he finds his form and more importantly, his serve, it will be tough and a respectable achievement for him to only make it to the 2nd week of W/USO this year. This year has 2013 written all over it, maybe even worst. Perhaps he'll turn things around by the end of the year and set himself up for one last decent run in 2017, but at 35+, it will definitely be harder than ever before. Federer's best chance at winning slams were last year, especially after that superb SF against Murray @W and a very convincing USO, yet he managed to go AWOL during both finals.

Djokovic certainly has a chance to break Federer's record. The only thing that could really prevent him from doing so are emerging new players and father time. While I'm not really concerned about the former for now, father time is something he will have to deal with soon. Decade of stats have shown how hard winning a major past 30 is. Another 5 major looks easily attainable based on how he plays now, but 5 majors after 30 is an entirely different beast. I don't think Novak is done winning majors, but the road will become significantly tougher as he ages, just like it's been for other aging legends of the game.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Fed must stop him at W2016. Do or die.

I think the chances of that happening are about on par with Jimmy Connors (with two hip replacements) stopping Novak.

Unless Fed undergoes a truly miraculous transformation in the next 10 days, he is not even beating someone like Stepanek at W., never mind the #1 seed.
 

Tennisanity

Legend
I think the chances of that happening are about on par with Jimmy Connors (with two hip replacements) stopping Novak.

Unless Fed undergoes a truly miraculous transformation in the next 10 days, he is not even beating someone like Stepanek at W., never mind the #1 seed.

Low chances yes, but a bit too much hyperbole on your part.
 

Peters

Professional
I fancy Murray to take another 2 or 3 slams over the next 2 years, but no more than that. A combination of Wimby's and a US Open perhaps. Which would be 2 or 3 less for Novak to hoover up.

But that still leaves him with up to 10 genuine shots (as favourite) at a slam over the next 3 years. He's gonna need to seriously drop away from where he is at the moment to fail to overtake Federer. The likes of Thiem & co. aren't going to get up to speed quick enough to prevent it IMO, Raonic is touch and go whether he can make that final mental step and interfere. He could make things interesting though.

Hell, Novak might even go crazy and get 2 consecutive calendar slams. He's reached a level of control I've never seen on a court before. Sure, Federer produced a more classically beautiful game and the purists may always think of him as the best player of all time regardless (which is a debate which will go on for decades), but I think Novak will eventually have the stats to back him up.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
You wish. I couldn't care less. All I care about is Nadal whipped Fed's a**. If Novak overtakes Nadal in every stat, good luck to him because at least Novak didn't have to avoid Nadal unlike Federer who could only win 2 out of his 17 majors by going through Nadal...
Basing on years of whining about Federer and his achievements, it's obvious that you care about where nadal stands when all said and done, and you don't want Nole to surpass him. Nadal won all of his 9 RG against the weak field.


No, the ones in the past are not up to date. You need to update your list and post it but you can't do that because Federer's stts haven't changed much whereas NOvak is fast approaching him hahahahahaha
You can update yourself. Don't tell me that you're incapable of doing a simple task.
 
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