Roger Federer: The great survivor who doesn't know when to stop

Dedans Penthouse said:
I can still remember when Fed hit a dry patch and the fanbois were all calling for him to retire least he compromise his legacy.

I hope he plays as long as he likes -- empty the tank Fed! His legacy's already been established.
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sureshs disagrees. It must not be economical for him given his entourage and also he has to feed 4 children. The financials are pretty bad for Fed as per latest reports.
 
Someone Needs to put a tonya Hardin on his azz. This is getting rediculous. He is like a parasite latched onto it's host that will never die.
 
swordtennis said:
Someone Needs to put a tonya Hardin on his azz. This is getting rediculous. He is like a parasite latched onto it's host that will never die.
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swordtennis said:
Why is it that only fed fanatics think he is not playing well while the entire world thinks he is? The stats as well.
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If Andy beats Fed tomorrow, the first thing you would hear is when was the last time Fed beat a big 4 at a major ? AO 2014, right ? He can only win Dubai and Istanbul.
 
It's amazing how many times he's been counted out and how many times we've heard how some tournament may be his "last best chance." How many of those have come and gone? And now he's one match away from being in another Wimbledon final. The man's ridiculous and at this point, I truly believe the only thing fueling him is a pure love for the sport, which is the most admirable thing about Federer. I hope he plays as long as playing makes him happy.
 
tennisaddict said:
If Andy beats Fed tomorrow, the first thing you would hear is when was the last time Fed beat a big 4 at a major ? AO 2014, right ? He can only win Dubai and Istanbul.
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Prob only nadal fans would be saying that. The crew knows Federer shows up at the majors. Wimbledon mostly now where his game shines.

Added of course he is not 25 anymore. But he can not just baseline bash anymore.
 
Dedans Penthouse said:
I can still remember when Fed hit a dry patch and the fanbois were all calling for him to retire least he compromise his legacy.

I hope he plays as long as he likes -- empty the tank Fed! His legacy's already been established.
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They still do. Never understood that mindset. You hear with all kinds of great players...as if playing beyond their prime somehow diminishes what they accomplished. Makes no sense.

And, once more, we find ourselves watching Federer's last great chance to win a major. Déjà vu. 2012 Wimbledon, 2014 Wimbledon and U.S. Open. Just enjoy watching the guy...or don't watch him if you don't like. Pretty simple. He's won 17 majors. They won't take any of them away from him for playing too long.
 
FlashFlare11 said:
It's amazing how many times he's been counted out and how many times we've heard how some tournament may be his "last best chance." How many of those have come and gone? And now he's one match away from being in another Wimbledon final. The man's ridiculous and at this point, I truly believe the only thing fueling him is a pure love for the sport, which is the most admirable thing about Federer. I hope he plays as long as playing makes him happy.
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I think he's playing better in 2015 than he has since winning Wimbledon and returning to #1 in 2012.

2013 was a tough year. He had a very good 2014, but I think he's more comfortable with the new, more aggressive style and is playing his best tennis of the last three years. Whether he can keep it up for two more matches...and whether that will be enough, remains to be seen. But, as a Fed fan, 2012 was the "one more major" I wanted him to get. Everything, every opportunity, since is just gravy. I just sit back and enjoy these events where he plays well and pushes deep into the draw...hoping that things might break his way once more, but completely content if they don't. It's good to be a Fed fan.
 
spinovic said:
I think he's playing better in 2015 than he has since winning Wimbledon and returning to #1 in 2012.

2013 was a tough year. He had a very good 2014, but I think he's more comfortable with the new, more aggressive style and is playing his best tennis of the last three years. Whether he can keep it up for two more matches...and whether that will be enough, remains to be seen. But, as a Fed fan, 2012 was the "one more major" I wanted him to get. Everything, every opportunity, since is just gravy. I just sit back and enjoy these events where he plays well and pushes deep into the draw...hoping that things might break his way once more, but completely content if they don't. It's good to be a Fed fan.
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I agree. He's playing with a lot of confidence, and for good reason. His renewed aggressiveness combined with the margin, power, and safety in his new racquet have really helped a lot these last 18 months. 2013 was very rough but last year made up for it and 2015 is doing much of the same.

I agree about 2012 being so much more than I had hoped as a Federer fan. I mean, winning Wimbledon was enough as I always believed he had another slam in him. But getting back to No. 1 the year after Novak and Rafa had dominated just about every major tournament? It was a dream, really. You're right, everything after that, it doesn't even matter. Just adds to his already legendary legacy.

Now I only want him to keep playing because I love his tennis. I'll stay up to 3:30AM or wake up at 6AM or whatever time of day to watch him play. I love tennis, I love to play tennis, I love to watch tennis, but Roger's tennis is just so different, so beautiful to watch. I could go on but when he leaves the game, there will definitely be a void that will take some time to fill.
 
FlashFlare11 said:
I agree. He's playing with a lot of confidence, and for good reason. His renewed aggressiveness combined with the margin, power, and safety in his new racquet have really helped a lot these last 18 months. 2013 was very rough but last year made up for it and 2015 is doing much of the same.

I agree about 2012 being so much more than I had hoped as a Federer fan. I mean, winning Wimbledon was enough as I always believed he had another slam in him. But getting back to No. 1 the year after Novak and Rafa had dominated just about every major tournament? It was a dream, really. You're right, everything after that, it doesn't even matter. Just adds to his already legendary legacy.

Now I only want him to keep playing because I love his tennis. I'll stay up to 3:30AM or wake up at 6AM or whatever time of day to watch him play. I love tennis, I love to play tennis, I love to watch tennis, but Roger's tennis is just so different, so beautiful to watch. I could go on but when he leaves the game, there will definitely be a void that will take some time to fill.
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I would echo everything you said. He's so fun to watch. Especially now that he's committed to attacking more. And, on grass where the surface suits his style - so fun to watch. I particularly enjoy his encounters with guys like Murray and Djokovic. It's actually pretty relaxing to watch him against those guys now, since he's not necessarily expected to win like he is in most matchups. I can just sit back, enjoy, and accept the results. I think it's great that he can still compete on their level at this stage of his career.
 
spinovic said:
I would echo everything you said. He's so fun to watch. Especially now that he's committed to attacking more. And, on grass where the surface suits his style - so fun to watch. I particularly enjoy his encounters with guys like Murray and Djokovic. It's actually pretty relaxing to watch him against those guys now, since he's not necessarily expected to win like he is in most matchups. I can just sit back, enjoy, and accept the results. I think it's great that he can still compete on their level at this stage of his career.
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I could not agree more! Honestly, the fact that he's not guaranteed a win against players like Djokovic or Murray, or even big hitters like Berdych and Tsonga adds to the thrill of watching Federer. I mean, it's always been there. He goes for shots no one else would think to go for in dire situations and, more often that not, makes them. But now that he's going out there and, sometimes, expected to lose, makes you want to watch and see how he brilliantly comes up with the victory. It's so much fun to watch! And I think it's unreal that at almost 34 years old and over 10 years after he first reached World No. 1, he's down just ONE spot in the rankings at 2. It's unreal!

He's my favorite sportsman and I could not be more proud of being his fan.
 
FlashFlare11 said:
I could not agree more! Honestly, the fact that he's not guaranteed a win against players like Djokovic or Murray, or even big hitters like Berdych and Tsonga adds to the thrill of watching Federer. I mean, it's always been there. He goes for shots no one else would think to go for in dire situations and, more often that not, makes them. But now that he's going out there and, sometimes, expected to lose, makes you want to watch and see how he brilliantly comes up with the victory. It's so much fun to watch! And I think it's unreal that at almost 34 years old and over 10 years after he first reached World No. 1, he's down just ONE spot in the rankings at 2. It's unreal!

I could not be more proud of being his fan.
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Those Tsonga, Berdych, etc., matchups can be more tense to me, because I still expect him to win them, but I know that it's a very real possibility that he could catch them on the wrong day and get hammered off the court. Those losses aren't that bad, knowing that those guys are capable of doing that to anyone and Roger is more vulnerable to that now, but I still hate when it happens. It always results in that inevitable "what if". Like, what if Marin Cilic had not caught fire in NYC last year. Fed may be chasing #19 right now. But, it is what it is. Just gotta tip your cap to a guy playing that well.
 
spinovic said:
Those Tsonga, Berdych, etc., matchups can be more tense to me, because I still expect him to win them, but I know that it's a very real possibility that he could catch them on the wrong day and get hammered off the court. Those losses aren't that bad, knowing that those guys are capable of doing that to anyone and Roger is more vulnerable to that now, but I still hate when it happens. It always results in that inevitable "what if". Like, what if Marin Cilic had not caught fire in NYC last year. Fed may be chasing #19 right now. But, it is what it is. Just gotta tip your cap to a guy playing that well.
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He wins a vast majority of them and I'm happy with that. Sometimes those losses are easier to swallow because you kinda have to accept that it was a good day for them and there's not much Roger could've done to change the result. The ones hard for me to take are the ones where he kinda beats himself by committing a ton of errors. Those "what-ifs" sting more to me, personally, but I totally get what you're saying as well. In that sense, I was okay with the Cilic loss because of how well Marin played, and him winning the final helped quell the sadness too. But when you think about it, it's astounding that despite how much Federer's won, he was mere points away from so much more so many times in his career.
 
swordtennis said:
interesting I am a LeBron guy.
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It is an interesting comparison, I think Novak has achieved more at this stage though.
But they're both the current "Gen X" of their sports, the face of their sports, and have both been fairly dominant, so it's definitely interesting.
 
swordtennis said:
Why is it that only fed fanatics think he is not playing well while the entire world thinks he is? The stats as well.
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He is playing really well, he just isn't racking up the slams any more because he doesn't have quite as much consistency as he used to. Gotta hang with that level for 7 matches in a row.
 
Dedans Penthouse said:
I can still remember when Fed hit a dry patch and the fanbois were all calling for him to retire least he compromise his legacy.

I hope he plays as long as he likes -- empty the tank Fed! His legacy's already been established.
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tennisaddict said:
sureshs disagrees. It must not be economical for him given his entourage and also he has to feed 4 children. The financials are pretty bad for Fed as per latest reports.
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You mean like ...

sureshs said:
He will retire if he does not get to the semis here
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Dedans Penthouse said:
I can still remember when Fed hit a dry patch and the fanbois were all calling for him to retire least he compromise his legacy.
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That's only one side of the coin, most annual "Fed should retire" threads are made by guys like Suresh (I think he alone made like 10 or something) who aren't Fed fans in the slightest. Not to mention that every time Fed lost a big match in last 5 years or so you had butthurt individuals (like 90s Clay and the like) pointing and shouting how this loss is the absolute proof Fed would have won 5 slams max in this hypothetical scenario he pulled out of his behind.

No one's record should be beyond criticism and I don't like putting any single tennis great on the pedestal above others (except maybe Laver for obvious reasons) but all those hypothetical scenarios people come up with can't change the fact that Fed is one of the best (not the best but definitely up there with other tennis greats) and his achievements are what they are, it just comes off as tilting at windmills.

Dedans Penthouse said:
I hope he plays as long as he likes -- empty the tank Fed! His legacy's already been established.
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My attitude in that regard is same for every player whose playing style I like, I hope he plays as long his health allows and he's enjoying himself on court. That said, the bolded part is what a lot of people have trouble accepting.
 
zagor said:
That's only one side of the coin, most annual "Fed should retire" threads are made by guys like Suresh (I think he alone made like 10 or something) who aren't Fed fans in the slightest. Not to mention that every time Fed lost a big match in last 5 years or so you had butthurt individuals (like 90s Clay and the like) pointing and shouting how this loss is the absolute proof Fed would have won 5 slams max in this hypothetical scenario he pulled out of his behind.

No one's record should be beyond criticism and I don't like putting any single tennis great on the pedestal above others (except maybe Laver for obvious reasons) but all those hypothetical scenarios people come up with can't change the fact that Fed is one of the best (not the best but definitely up there with other tennis greats) and his achievements are what they are, it just comes off as tilting at windmills.



My attitude in that regard is same for every player whose playing style I like, I hope he plays as long his health allows and he's enjoying himself on court. That said, the bolded part is what a lot of people have trouble accepting.
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Well said. That's dead on.

I enjoy watching Nadal as well, so I'm hoping he can find some answers and get back in the mix. I've always had my doubts about him aging as gracefully as Federer, but we are about to find out I think.
 
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