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All this talk has got us Wilson fans very excited, Has any one heard anything yet about an impending release?
Even the KPS88 was significantly lighter, and had much lower swingweight, than Pete's actual spec.Another was the KProstaff 88 which many advanced players purchased but that is like less then 1% of the whole tennis playing universe.
Even better, they should do what Yonex does with their Tour line frames: release a heavy spec, in this case Fed's playing spec, and also a lighter spec, which is about 20 grams lighter and 15 units lower in swingweight.If Wilson has this(profit) in mind, they should release the exact same model Roger uses because there will be huge demand for this racquet, I can assure you. They don't even have to do any more marketing/advertising because it has already been done during the past half year. Once it is released, it will sell out in a few weeks. It will be hard for Wilson to meet the demands, in fact.
mr flip, PLAYING with his cat again!!!!!Spoke with RFRF the other day and he said he definitely knows whats going on with Rogers racquet. It's only seconds away, if not microseconds from being announced.
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Even the KPS88 was significantly lighter, and had much lower swingweight, than Pete's actual spec.
mr flip, PLAYING with his cat again!!!!!
I have the feeling that the new racquet will be more playable than the K90. It's bigger, and it may have lower swingweight for less stress on his back on serves.
Yup, I still see lots of people using the KPS88, too.
I have seen one guy use it, around the time I used to use it. I think your sample set is highly skewed.
What do you mean bigger? Is it a 95?
Even better, they should do what Yonex does with their Tour line frames: release a heavy spec, in this case Fed's playing spec, and also a lighter spec, which is about 20 grams lighter and 15 units lower in swingweight.
Wilson knows full well how to do this, as the Asian Tour 90s spec out just like the lighter versions of Yonex Tour models. Wilson has never released the Asian spec in Western markets though, which has caused a lot of grumbling and complaining. They should do it this time. If they don't, they're silly. I think they will, especially as they are already building in the "L" designation (light) into several of their lines.
Yep, but the other poster was asking for the new Fed stick be sold with Fed's actual specs. I pointed out that even Pete's KPS 88 was not released at his spec. We'll see what effect, if any, the two lawsuits against Wilson will have on what they release.Actually Pete's was exactly the same as the public version -- just with Nate's leadwork on it.
Maybe there's just more better players around where I play? But I do indeed see lots of people using the KPS88. Heck, I played against three such people in just the past few months.I have seen one guy use it, around the time I used to use it. I think your sample set is highly skewed.
This Raquet is transforming the game of a certain 3.5 I know. He is adjusting his game the same way Rogi has. Preparing for eventual larger stick switch. Building up forearm mussels in the house of no repute.
Then what kind of people use an 85?No. It's not me. I am still using a 90. I'm not influenced by all the hype.
90 is the correct size for coordinated athletic people. 100+ is for uncoordinated people who have extreme difficulty playing Galaga or other hand/eye coordination demanding GOAT games.
Then what kind of people use an 85?
"Bionic" people?
I disagree. Tons of recreational players used the Dunlop Max 200G back in the 80's and 90's and many used them very well. They were not heavy at all compared to most other racquets of that era. And for people coming from wood racquets (like McEnroe and myself), they actually felt very light.
Remember the Wilson TV commercial in 1984 in which Jimmy Connors touts how light the ProStaff 85 was? At 12.8 oz., it's considered heavy today but back then it was considered feather light.
The racquet is destined to be the GOAT. It is being developed and tested on ATP tour by none other than Federer and Wilson.
If you've ever played with anything remotely similar to Federer's previous set up, you'd know that it is pretty hard to play. The combination of a polarized racquet at low tension made for a big challenge. Looking at his current tension, it may be easier, however, his personal racquet will most likely still be polarized and very few players actually like that. Racquets cannot be GOAT because they are made for a specific type of player, so what is the best racquet is a very subjective matter. For example I love thin beam, low flex racquets (e.g PS 95) whereas a friend of mine hates them and prefers thick beamed and stiff racquets such as the Pure Drive. There might be a racquet that is the GOAT for you, but not in general I'm afraid.
If you've ever played with anything remotely similar to Federer's previous set up, you'd know that it is pretty hard to play. The combination of a polarized racquet at low tension made for a big challenge. Looking at his current tension, it may be easier, however, his personal racquet will most likely still be polarized and very few players actually like that. Racquets cannot be GOAT because they are made for a specific type of player, so what is the best racquet is a very subjective matter. For example I love thin beam, low flex racquets (e.g PS 95) whereas a friend of mine hates them and prefers thick beamed and stiff racquets such as the Pure Drive. There might be a racquet that is the GOAT for you, but not in general I'm afraid.
You must be a dead serious person. Of course, everyone knows that no racquet can suit everyone. Sorry for giving you wrong impression.
I thought that polarized frames were pretty popular with ATP players today.
My setup is 15 grams of lead between 10:00 and 2:00 and silicone in the handle - is that polarized enough?
I'm not so sure about that. Wilson sold millions of all the previous versions of the Tour 90s and most of them were not the exact model that Federer used. I think people will buy it as long as it LOOKS like the model that Federer uses.
I thought that polarized frames were pretty popular with ATP players today.
My setup is 15 grams of lead between 10:00 and 2:00 and silicone in the handle - is that polarized enough?
My setup is 15 grams of lead between 10:00 and 2:00 and silicone in the handle - is that polarized enough?
Holy smokes I only just read how much lead you put in the head, that is a LOT! :shock: Just as a comparison, Nadal plays one of the most polarized set-ups and he only has 8g of lead at 12 ^^'
How would you get close to 390 SW without putting more than 8g at 12? Add more at 3/9?
Not saying Nadal has 390, but more as a general question.
Almost every player in the top 20 uses a "polarized" setup. Djokovic is a good example. 370+ swingweight, 360 or less static mass and 32cm balance. That is more polarized than any frame currently on the market. Pat Rafter played at 360g/32cm/350 swingweight, very similar to Fed's spec. Safin was at 352g/32cm/347 swingweight. Not quite as polarized as Djoker, but pretty typical for ATP players for over a decade.They are becoming MORE popular, however they are still very rare on the Tour. Most players still prefer the depolarized set-up.
Almost every player in the top 20 uses a "polarized" setup. Djokovic is a good example. 370+ swingweight, 360 or less static mass and 32cm balance. That is more polarized than any frame currently on the market. Pat Rafter played at 360g/32cm/350 swingweight, very similar to Fed's spec. Safin was at 352g/32cm/347 swingweight. Not quite as polarized as Djoker, but pretty typical for ATP players for over a decade.
How would you get close to 390 SW without putting more than 8g at 12? Add more at 3/9?
Not saying Nadal has 390, but more as a general question.
It'll work great for everyone, and thus everyone will play exactly like Roger. :wink:The racquet is destined to be the GOAT. It is being developed and tested on ATP tour by none other than Federer and Wilson.
Nadal's SW is around 362-364 and he's starting out with a retail frame whereas I have a Pro Stock frame which starts out with a lower SW compared to retail.
oh sorry didn't pick up your sarcasm there
It'll work great for everyone, and thus everyone will play exactly like Roger. :wink: