Roland Garros 2013 is beyond reach for Djokovic and company
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Start da Game
Hall of Fame
nice to see nadal trolling the haters......giving them false hope before destroying everyone at roland garros......
abmk
Bionic Poster
lul, wut ? rafa is still the favourite at RG ... doesn't mean he can't lose there this year...get the difference ?
falstaff78
Hall of Fame
TheF1Bob
Banned
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Actually there is a sizable (in fact 10%) difference between 90% and 100% Socrates.
You need to relax mate. Although I can just imagine the conniptions you're having today.
RG is certainly not out of reach for Djokovic, and even if Nadal does win RG your thread title is an epic fail since it never was "beyond reach" even if Nadal had won MC today. Your choice of title is impeccable as usual.
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Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
I concur. Don't listen to them ark, I like your posts.
Start da Game
Hall of Fame
excepting 2009, he has not lost a best of 5 sets tennis match on clay in his career.......until i see someone beating him there, there is no reason to believe that he can lose.......andreev, gaudio, federer, ferrero and in the recent years djokovic, they all scored wins over rafa before roland garros, but it accounted for nothing as far as roland garros is concerned.......
if nadal vs djokovic happens at RG, expect a thrashing of massive proportions.......something like 6-2, 6-3, 6-3 to rafa.......nadal will make a joke of djokovic's clay movement and game......
abmk
Bionic Poster
but soderling did beat him in RG 2009 ........ rafa is still the favourite at RG , but he's not in top form on clay and can be beaten if someone plays inspired tennis and can keep it up mentally .....
also got lucky that federer played an inspired match and took out djoker in RG 2011
LOL @ the last para ..... rafa himself would not stop laughing if he heard your statments .....he couldn't even do that to kid djoker in 2006 ( djoker won 4 games in each set before he retired ) , nor in 2008 at his absolute peak ......
Start da Game
Hall of Fame
so roland garros is "within reach" for djokovic(and others) according to you.......delusions are certainly within your reach it seems.......
come back and speak to me when someone else wins roland garros......until then it's beyond reach.......i know it pains for fediva enthusiasts because they could never assert their authority even during their player's so called peak.......
abmk
Bionic Poster
hey, federer won RG in 2009 ........now go cry about it ..... :twisted:
your posts are full of butthurt. Good to know nole's 3rd straight set win over rafa on clay has had some impact . :lol:
Start da Game
Hall of Fame
i don't cry, bro......i take losses equally like my favourite does.......from your suggestion i can only think that you cried and ended up with a running nose watching your favourite cry on tv after receiving runner up plate from laver......
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Sure it's within reach. Djokovic just won MC which would lead to any normal person making the conclusion that Djokovic could potentially win RG so therefore it is "within reach." It's simple logic. What is wrong with you?
abmk
Bionic Poster
two words to describe what is wrong with him - butthurt, arrogance ...
abmk
Bionic Poster
your posts are just revealing more and more of your butthurt ......
your fav takes loses badly as well, like hiding and making up injury excuses after shock losses to soderling, rosol etc ....
oh and yeah, at this rate nole will surpass nadal as the 2nd best player of the fedalovic trio ......... if nadal losing to djoker once on clay upsets you this much , here's a fair warning, you need to be prepared for FAR FAR worse ....... :twisted:
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal lost in straight sets today, this must mean he'll win easily in straight sets in a best of five.
**** logic at its finest.
West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
I give @Start da Game some credit for showing up and not slinking away like most Nadal fans after an outrageous comment. How many userids is NSK up to now? 
Anyone who watched today saw: a) Djokovic's return of serve shred Nadal's spinners - only won 32% of his 2nd serve points; b) Djokovic's high BH more than held up against the kicking FH of Nadal; c) Djokovic's FH broke down Nadal's BH until he got an error or an easy DTL shot. Scoreline should have been 0 and 4, barring Novak losing concentration. Nadal was just along for the ride.
Anyone who watched today saw: a) Djokovic's return of serve shred Nadal's spinners - only won 32% of his 2nd serve points; b) Djokovic's high BH more than held up against the kicking FH of Nadal; c) Djokovic's FH broke down Nadal's BH until he got an error or an easy DTL shot. Scoreline should have been 0 and 4, barring Novak losing concentration. Nadal was just along for the ride.
cknobman
Legend
It was nice to see someone hold it together for an entire match against Nadal.
Nadal was already not looking that great at MC this year but his opponents just could not keep it together long enough to capitalize.
Novak just showed that Nadal still has some work to do. Right now Nadal is a little to passive in his game and is lacking the ability to attack. It was painfully obvious when Nadal tried to play more aggressive he was spitting out UE rather quickly.
Nadal was already not looking that great at MC this year but his opponents just could not keep it together long enough to capitalize.
Novak just showed that Nadal still has some work to do. Right now Nadal is a little to passive in his game and is lacking the ability to attack. It was painfully obvious when Nadal tried to play more aggressive he was spitting out UE rather quickly.
Michaellearningtennis
New User
Nice Rocky 2 quote there!!
Start da Game
Hall of Fame
once again nole fans, no need to get too greedy.......just be content with what you have, your australian opens and small clay titles here and there.......forget roland garros and forget career grandslam.......
Clarky21
Banned
Please go back to MTF where you belong. This entire thread is just total nonsense.
Start da Game
Hall of Fame
it will take 7 hours just to drag nadal deep into the fifth set of a best of 5 sets tennis match on clay.......with sun beating down, that is the task awaiting novak and all that just to get a sniff.......and then there is also this job of finishing from there......just forget it already.......
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Now that they are enforcing the time delay rule, that won't happen. And because they are enforcing the time delay rule, which won't allow Nadal to cheat by recovering after each point, he will be dead tired by the 5th set. Thus, he will be vulnerable. Heck, he even completely ran out of gas in the 5th set on hardcourt against Federer (who plays fast and keeps points short) in Miami in 2005.
atptennis
Rookie
Man you are so delusional. Really. Take a break. Come out of that egg. Into new reality. Nole is here to stay. I'm not saying Nadal doesn't stand a chance at French Open; he surely does. But so does Djokovic. Probably more chance than the Nadal we saw at MC.
Start da Game
Hall of Fame
it will still take 6 hours, every single hour under the sun.......you just can't beat him with the 1-2 combos like on slow hardcourts or on the wet mud we had at montecarlo last sunday.......there is a high probablity that djokovic will lose the final in 4 sets and there is also a little probability that he will lose it in straight sets......the task is just too daunting baby.......
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
It won't take 6 hours for The Son of God to trounce The Nadal. :lol: :lol:
World Beater
Hall of Fame
Nadal couldnt even last 1 1/2 hours in MC.
He was gassed and admitted it.
How is nadal all of a sudden going to last 4 hours + against this nole...
Clarky21
Banned
Still going through the Kleenex, I see.
uliks
Banned
Backhand Compliment
New User
Business as usual for Start da Fail
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Personally, i'd love to see Monfils win a slam.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
Me too. Hope he can work out whatever he needs to contend for the Slams, first of which is, his shot selection (among other stuff)
Backhand Compliment
New User
He needs to stay healthy first and foremost
winstonplum
Hall of Fame
Lame thread. Djokovic is the favorite at RG this year unless Rafa can win both Madrid and Rome. I'd say Rafa is a close second favorite (even if Nole takes Madrid and Rome), but the slight favorite to win it this year is Djokovic.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
NO, he is not. Nadal is still the favorite at RG. The only way that will change is if Nadal loses Madrid and Rome and Djokovic wins them.
Clarky21
Banned
How on earth can Nadal still be the favorite to win RG? Cvac has owned his ass for more than 2 years now, and has just beaten him in MC. Nadal is also still not match fit after being out for so long, and still has knee troubles. Cvac is far and away the favorite at RG this year, and will be for years to come.
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
Because it's Nadal at Roland Garros.
Btw, how in god's name do you have 10k+ posts in two years?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
No he has not. In 2012 Nadal owned Djokovic on clay with three clay wins. We are only talking about one loss at MC this year. Nadal is still the favorite, he is the 7 time FO champion and he won it last year. Djokovic has reached the final of the FO ONE time. Too early to say Djokovic is the favorite for the FO after only one win on clay this year. Wait until Madrid and Rome. If Nadal loses both of those and Djokovic wins them, then you could say Djokovic is the slight favorite for the FO but not until then.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
LOL, don't get me started on that one. I never believed Nadal had serious knee injuries this year.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
It's no use. Clarky thinks Novak owned Rafa in 2012 for whatever stupid reason.
winstonplum
Hall of Fame
It's about 14 posts a day. If you scoured these boards hunting down every remotely positive thing said about Nadal and his play and then contradicted it with something negative about Nadal and his play, it probably isn't that hard to reach that number. She's intensely focused on her mission to prove to us that Nadal is a "clown" and a "mug." Perhaps even a muggy clown.
But, to your point, I don't think Rafa was the favorite last year at RG or the year before either. I don't feel that Nole was an outrageous favorite in those years, but he was, in my opinion, the slight favorite over Nadal. Nole 2.0 has been the best player in the world since 2011 and thus goes into most, if not all, tournaments as the slight favorite. I think Rafa can beat him, as he did nicely three times in a row last year, but I think it will take really great tennis from him to do it this year.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
It really is tedious already not to mention incorrect.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
IMO the clay masters decide who the favorite is. If Nadal wins Madrid and Rome, there's no way Djokovic is the favorite. If Djokovic wins Madrid and Rome, there's no way Rafa is the favorite.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
No he wasn't. How can a player who never reached the final of the FO (and that was the case for Djokovic last year) be the favorite over a player who has won the tournament seven times. Use some logic people, it is not difficult. The only way Djokovic will be the slight favorite over Nadal this year is if Djokovic sweeps the rest of the clay tune-ups prior to the FO.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Overdrive
Legend
Isn't clay Nadal's favorite surface?
Also, she's on the computer all day while I'm at work... :-|
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Im so ready for Madrid and Rome it's unreal! Let's get it on already!
winstonplum
Hall of Fame
Okay, I'll grant you that. What if they split them? Nole takes Madrid and Rafa takes Rome? Who would you call the RG favorite? I'd give the edge to Nole, as he took MC also.
I think the really issue is Nadal's fitness and intensity. What the hell was up with being up a break twice and then losing the first one at 15 and the next one at love? Nadal basically said he got tired. That's worrying. He lost 11 out of 12 points in the primetime Vamosing/fist-pumping part of the match--in other words the time of the match where Nadal has made himself a living legend.
I hope can find the spark/fitness/determination in the these three tournaments, or I'm not going to have a great feeling about RG.
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