Roland-Garros 2025 Final - Jannik Sinner [1] vs Carlos Alcaraz [2]

[M4tchP0int]

chokersinner won't recover for Wimbledon. Coria only had 2MP's in RG2004 as well as federer in 2019Wimbledon F. Alcaraz can choke once (serving at 5-4 in the 5th set today or versus djokovic in 3rd set of Wim2024) but can't choke twice and won the tie-break like in shanghai 2024 or like Djokovic won them in last year olympics or like in the Wimbledon2019 final.

Biggest choke ever in my opinion. Sinner will surely lose his number 1 ranking at the end of the year. Sinner mentally and especially physically will never be like djokovic. He will never be like djokovic on grass and clay and the djokovic hater of panatta who infamously said sinner is going to retire djokovic will have to eat his hat. Alcaraz is gonna retire Sinnner. Not sure they will be a real rivalry. It's gonna be worse thant the "rivalry" between Nadal and Federer

 

[TennisGrandpA]

Be honest
Did Sinner choke?

Having three match points in the same game and not being able to convert them is criminal.

 

[cha cha]

What a tedious speech.
He snatched it from right under your nose. You worked for 5 hours to get nothing, man.
Tell him you hate him. : - )

 

[Oval_Solid]

awkward

 

[Tsongerer]

Controversial take: Carlos would've made this comeback at the Olympics if it was BO5. The 2 sets vs Djokovic were toss ups just like the first two sets today (as well as the other ones except the last set tiebreak blow out). Carlos is just different in BO5 vs BO3.

 

[bluetrain4]

Tennis has the best and worst trophy ceremony - forcing the losing player to speak. Which may be great for the fans, but can at times be just terrible for the losing player.

 

[ibbi]

Be honest
Did Sinner choke?

In the last 2 sets, he got his first serve percentage up, his winner/error ratio into the positive. The other guy just got better too. Anyone reducing what just happened to a choke is as thick as two short planks, doesn't know what the funk they are talking about, and you should never take anything they say seriously again. Let's see them go out there for 5 and a half hours and play like these guys were playing at the end. Sabalenka yesterday, that was a choke. Sinner had his misses, sure, so does everyone.

 

[Breakpointerer]

Pleasant change from the women's ceremony eh...

 

[-NN-]

Doesn't help that "choke" is used so broadly now as to lose any substantive meaning. If a player does ANYTHING wrong or tight and misses on any point that has any meaning, it's an "epic choke" - not just the normal game of tennis where human players might miss when it matters. If a player had a lead and then doesn't - "epic choke." A true "epic choke" IMO, would have been Sinner losing his opportunity in the third and then being so despondent/anxious/unnerved that he couldn't perform at decent level the rest of the match. But, as we saw, he performed admirably.

My impression is that this match wasn't choked away, but i keep hearing it was a choke.

 

[jm1972]

Why are people saying Sinner choked? Alcaraz stepped up and took this match. Look at what he did on the pressure points. Nothing short of amazing.

Because this place is full of idiots that started watching tennis yesterday.

Except for SamprasBruguera1993, he's just an idiot.

 

[nolefam_2024]

**** this sport

Going on very long hiatus.

 

[Ronaldo]

neither one even looks tired lol

Youth is wasted on both

 

[TennisFan3]

oh please, Stop with rubbish.
Sinner came from a break down in the 1st set. broke back when Alcaraz was serving for the match in the 5th set.

this is absolutely not even close to 2020 USO final or Med's AO chokes.

Absolutely. Boggles my mind on how this compares to the UsOpen 2020. They are not even in the same universe in terms of quality.

 

[McGradey]

Sinner spoke very well. ***** of a job having to do that.

 

[Rebel-I.N.S]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931788466100330703

 

[cha cha]

My impression is that this match wasn't choked away, but i keep hearing it was a choke.

The match was won, not lost.

 

[Mustard]

Rome + FO curse broken today?

This year is the first time that a player has won Rome and the French Open in the same calendar year since Nadal in 2019. It's the first time that the winner and runner-up at both Rome and the French Open have been the same since 2012 when Nadal beat Djokovic in both finals. In between, Djokovic beat Nadal in the Rome final of 2014, but the opposite result happened at that year's French Open. Also, in 2016, Djokovic and Murray met in the finals of Madrid (Djokovic won), Rome (Murray won) and French Open (Djokovic won).

 

[Stratotanker]

My impression is that this match wasn't choked away, but i keep hearing it was a choke.

Maybe a choke to close it out early for Jannik but Simner raised his level and played so well in the latter part of the 5th….Carlos just went nuclear for about four minutes when it looked like he was going to get broken at 5-6, 15-30 in the fifth.

 

[MilosRaonicFan]

In the last 2 sets, he got his first serve percentage up, his winner/error ratio into the positive. The other guy just got better too. Anyone reducing what just happened to a choke is as thick as two short planks, doesn't know what the funk they are talking about, and you should never take anything they say seriously again. Let's see them go out there for 5 and a half hours and play like these guys were playing at the end. Sabalenka yesterday, that was a choke. Sinner had his misses, sure, so does everyone.

At the end of the fourth/begining of the fifth, he was definitely rattled. But that is the nature of sport. I hate classic matches being reduced down into player x choked.

 

[Oval_Solid]

alcaraz taller than agassi

 

[Rosstour]

poor mama sinner

My mom has some sort of weird crush on Sinner, it's like talking to a Trumper when it comes to him. He's innocent of everything, did nothing wrong, and even if he did, I just don't care

 

[Hood_Man]

I'm going with Alcaraz in 5. I suspect his creativity and improvisation will be enough to gain the edge over Sinner, and there's no question over his ability to play for 4+ hours.

Said it.

 

[Incognito]

@Incognito congrats, didn’t I say it’s a good news for you after one and half set that Carlos is starting to play like a mad man.

Thanks. Yeah, but this match proved to me that Carlos should fear Jannik in the future. I mean Carlos had to channel his inner 2006 Federer on grass in that tiebreaker in the 5th. They bring out the best out of each other everytime they play. I doubted Carlos there even during 5-0 in the tiebreak. That’s how good Jannik was.

 

[ibbi]

My impression is that this match wasn't choked away, but i keep hearing it was a choke.

The people who you hear it from will talk about mugs and weak eras, and I am here to tell you that they are the mugs, and tennis discourse has never been in a weaker era.

Tennis has its new Big 2 era, tennis discourse has its Dipshi* era.

 

[hugobosstachini]

Why are people saying Sinner choked? Alcaraz stepped up and took this match. Look at what he did on the pressure points. Nothing short of amazing.

Sinner stroke multiple UEs on the matchpoints in contrast to the shots he has hitting in the first three sets before the mps

 

[bluetrain4]

neither one even looks tired lol

I think a huge advantage for the players, and us by proxy, is that the weather was pretty tame. A nice cool (for tennis) day, but not too cold. If it was hot and more humid, maybe we'd see more fatigue issues. Great weather helped with an incredible final.

 

[roysid]

Jannik Sinner made two unforced errors in the first two championship points. He almost expected to be better. 3rd point was neutral

And that 30-30 point at 5-6 in 5th set. How alacaraz could retrieve that return. Else it becomes next championship point

 

[RS]

Sinner has def grown in height he looks at least 4 inches taller than Raz

 

[Topspin_80]

Ferrero needs to be quiet I think, it was all Alcaraz instinct and improvisation that won that.

Absolutely, Carlitos hear everyone, and listen to nobody.

 

[Dilexson]

You realize Sinner has lost his last 4 matches against him?

Disappointed it turned to 5. Congratulations to Carlito, can't hate that dude even if I tried lol

 

[MugOpponent]

Phenomenal match. it's a damn shame one player had to lose. You can't say Sinner choked that. With all the momentum against him in the fifth, he broke back and nearly won it.
A truly amazing match! I can't wait to see Wimbledon.

 

[Ronaldo]

**** this sport

Going on very long hiatus.

Allergic to grass? Play three sets then smoke whatever is left on the court or on your shoes

 

[ibbi]

At the end of the fourth/begining of the fifth, he was definitely rattled. But that is the nature of sport. I had classic matches being reduced down into player x choked.

Sure, but it's not like he gave up the set or the early break on unnatural errors clearly influenced by nerves. Alcaraz very obviously upped his level too.

 

[Mustard]

That's the least enthusiastic I've ever seen Carlos holding a trophy. The guy is absolutely gassed right now.

It really hits after the match, when the adrenalin levels start dropping.

 

[cha cha]

I vote next year we invite Bublik to do both of the final speeches.

 

[bluetrain4]

Thanks. Yeah, but this match proved to me that Carlos should fear Jannik in the future. I mean Carlos had to channel his inner 2006 Federer on grass in that tiebreaker in the 5th. They bring out the best out of each other everytime they play. I doubted Carlos there even during 5-0 in the tiebreak. That’s how good Jannik was.

I think they both have healthy respect and "fear" for each other.

 

[CoolCoolCool]

 

[Mustard]

**** this sport

Going on very long hiatus.

 

[Hood_Man]

The people who you hear it from will talk about mugs and weak eras, and I am here to tell you that they are the mugs, and tennis discourse has never been in a weaker era.

Tennis has its new Big 2 era, tennis discourse has its Dipshi* era.

2012 was peak banter era.

 

[I Am Finnish]

How is @Lleytonstation feeling right now ?

 

[Incognito]

It did but did you see how difficult it was?

You were right. Almost impossible

 

[-NN-]

Maybe a choke to close it out early for Jannik but Simner raised his level and played so well in the latter part of the 5th….Carlos just went nuclear for about four minutes when it looked like he was going to get broken at 5-6, 15-30 in the fifth.

The response to Sinner's vicious level was absurd. Sinner took it to 10 and then Alcaraz redefined the scale.

 

[nickp]

Brian Anderson is a top 5 PBP guy of all time Didn’t even know he did tennis

 

[Quaichang]

Carlos towering over AA.

 

[zvelf]

So was this better or worse than the other greatest Roland Garros final in 1984 when #2 Ivan Lendl d. #1 John McEnroe 3-6, 2-6, 6-4, 7-5, 7-5?

 

[jm1972]

**** this sport

Going on very long hiatus.

 

[Dilexson]

Well , looks like Fedpo had got his 100 pages and then some more lol

 

[Quaichang]

Classy runner up speech from Sinner. Hopefully Aryna was watching.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Every Alcaraz fan on TTW Right now

 

[-NN-]

Said it.

I guess what we can take from this though is that Sinner can play at a very high level for 5+ hours, so we don't need to doubt that anymore. He produced one of his very best stretches moments before Alcaraz decided to make the dinosaurs go extinct.

Alcaraz how could you...