Roland Garros moved to September - not a drill
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TennisHockey
Rookie
Calling it now, Djokovic is gonna win Wimbledon, US, then RG.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Beckerserve
Legend
It is perfect for Nadal. That is gifting him the trophy. I am that cynical i wonder if he has something to do with it.
Clearly Federer did not as it clashes with his Laver Cup. Not one player will adjust to clay at that time of year apart from Nadal.
Ridiculous decision.
Beckerserve
Legend
The average temperature in Paris in September is higher than May and less rainy. Last year in Paris was awful weather.Cold weather, rainy, heavy conditions. This is Tim's big chance.
Beckerserve
Legend
Yes he is a 4 time champion but this seems a huge slice of luck for him. He is far more likely to win USO and FO back to back if hardly any tennis is played until then. Wimbledon will probably be cancelled after the Euro football has been around same time.
Nadal is a 4 US Open Champion, better than Djokovic!
I have respect for Nadal but this just seems unfair on Federer. He probably loses his best Slam, and then gets his worse two back to back.
If Nadal breaks his record there will be a shadow over it.
Milehigh5280
Professional
What will we call a potential USO-FO double?
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
According to the ATP Rulebook, Rafa is not required to compete in the mandatory Masters.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer is too old and injured.
He will be retiring very soon, and he should focus on his business like the Laver Cup, which I know he will do everything in his power to make it happen this year.
One more reason to decline his participation at RG.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
There is nothing unfair on Fed, he did not plan to play RG this year.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Transatlantic Slam!
The player who pull this off will get this accolades and will have an even greater recognition than the already famous Channel Slam, which is how the winner of the French Open and Wimbledon is known in the same season.
octobrina10
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DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal aim this year is to win at least one Major, be it Wimbledon, the US Open or RG.
If he succeeds in NY and then fails in Paris, nothing happens; He will have fulfilled the objective set by him and his technical team at the beginning of this year, which is none other than matching Federer's 20 Majors.
If he succeeds, he will be satisfied and this 2020 will be a success for him.
Weeks like number 1 are welcome but secondary for him at this point in his career.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
DSH
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octobrina10
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octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
But he can't whine.
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, but RG is normally played in end of May and early June. Quite different from late September and early October.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Imagine ending the year like we did last year again
it was so great
Subway Tennis
Legend
Imagine ending the year like we did last year again
Confession time: I've re-watched The US Open final a few times since the tennis calendar was suspended.
Not a bad place to get a tennis fix
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
At the rate this is going, it's likely no tennis will be played for most if not all of this year. Tournaments can try to say they'll hold it in September but we have no idea where the world will be at that point.
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Deleted member 770618
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Thiem will win this year.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
This is true but the fact is that they are trying to steal their way back into the calendar, so if tennis did get underway again the FO is going to try to squeeze other events out.
Not exactly the 'we're all in it' attitude!
Not exactly the 'we're all in it' attitude!
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
I know all the talk has been for the ATP and the Laver Cup but how about the WTA?
They first week they've relocated this to is the week of the Premier Tokyo tournament as well as the Guangzhou Open and Korean Open. The next week is ironically the Premier 5 Wuhan Open. So essentially a slam is happening the same week as a Premier 5 tournament? Then the expectation is the players will fly from Paris on clay to Beijing to play the Premier Mandatory China Open?
They first week they've relocated this to is the week of the Premier Tokyo tournament as well as the Guangzhou Open and Korean Open. The next week is ironically the Premier 5 Wuhan Open. So essentially a slam is happening the same week as a Premier 5 tournament? Then the expectation is the players will fly from Paris on clay to Beijing to play the Premier Mandatory China Open?
Cashman
Hall of Fame
None of this stuff is going to be played; least of all the China swing.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
This really ****s things up for #1 Ash Barty who is literally the French Open champion. I wonder if she got a courtesy phone call like Nadal did?
Let's say this does go ahead which is unlikely.
French Open now held the weeks of September 21 and 28. Ash Barty is the defending champion - 2000 points.
Week of September 21 the points from the 2019 Wuhan tournament will come off. She was a SFist - loses 350 points and can't play that tournament.
Week of September 28, the points from the 2019 Beijing tournament come off. She was a Finalist last year, loses 600 points. Can play the tournament the following week but would have to fly from Paris on clay to Beijing on hard court.
What idiot decided this?
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Why did they even bother making an announcement now anyway? Incredibly dumb move. Should've just waited til it was closer. Instead they've pissed off all the other slams and tournaments + Tennis Australia and all those involved in the Laver Cup etc. It was still over 2 months away. Making an announcement in March made no sense and did far more harm than good.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Acapulco's tournament director slams RG saying the decision was selfish and treacherous
Translation:
The decision of @rolandgarros Moving the tournament to September is, from my point of view, treacherous and selfish and only shows the disdain they have towards the other Tournaments on the Tour and apparently also the players, because they did not consult them.
Translation:
The decision of @rolandgarros Moving the tournament to September is, from my point of view, treacherous and selfish and only shows the disdain they have towards the other Tournaments on the Tour and apparently also the players, because they did not consult them.
WarriorRafa
Hall of Fame
Looks like its the FFT on one side and ATP, WTA, Tennis Australia, and Wimbledon on the other. Doubt this decision stands tbh
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Cashman
Hall of Fame
Probably because they wanted to snag the spot in the calendar before anyone else did.
If you look at the calendar it makes sense. Laver Cup is Mickey Mouse, and right now the WTA China swing is as good as cancelled. You can’t play the FO in the snow, so that was going to be the least disruptive fortnight.
I suspect nobody actually expects it to be played, and this is mostly a way to defer having to pay out a ton of cash in ticket and sponsorship refunds for a few months.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Wouldn't the first week of October make far more sense?
If as you say, the WTA China swing is cancelled, it's safe to say that the ATP China/Asia swing would be cancelled too.
So if you have the French Open starting the first week of October (October 5) you get two extra weeks after the USO, you only bump out Tokyo, Beijing and Shanghai on the ATP side and Beijing, Hong Kong, Tianjin and Linz on the WTA side. All of those events except for maybe Linz are likely to be cancelled anyway.
So the benefits are:
You've now got 3 weeks after the USO for RG instead of 1.
Laver Cup still goes ahead.
Most tournaments would've been cancelled anyway
Additionally, the following week (October 19) for the ATP is in Europe with tournaments in Stockholm, Antwerp and Moscow and for the WTA its tournaments are in Moscow and Luxembourg.. Those tournaments are lot closer to Paris than if the schedule is two weeks earlier and mean's player have to go from Paris to China/Japan than back to Europe.
fedfan08
Professional
Laver Cup is not Mickey Mouse. FFT should have consulted other slams/tournaments before they made this decision.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
They can do what they want with their event, but if they want players then they have to negotiate with the ATP.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Confession time: I've re-watched The US Open final a few times since the tennis calendar was suspended.
Not a bad place to get a tennis fix
Everyone should, it was an epic match
PeoplesChamp
Legend
The FO may snag this spot on the calendar in the end, but not without some issues. LC has the right to make this statement and fight for the spot. It's obviously a success being sold out. Money is money whether a person/fan respects the event or not.Laver Cup says
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Why China least of all? The virus has completely leveled off there and it’s mid-March. Seems to me they’d be more likely to get back to normal by September than Europe would be (especially France). Normal enough to host a tennis event, at least.
Not that I’m an epidemiologist or anything.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Oh please. Any slam takes precedence over the Laver Cup.
Laver Cup is an embarassing joke.
How is any top 10 player going to forgo playing in a slam for the Laver Cup.
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
There is no order of precendence in a financial sense. The Laver Cup is sold out and makes a lot of money for the ATP.
The ATP can suspend a player from the tour, so they may have to choose.
The ATP can suspend a player from the tour, so they may have to choose.
Oh please. Any slam takes precedence of Laver Cup.
Laver Cup is an embarassing joke.
How is any top player going to forgo a slam for the Laver Cup.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
How does Laver Cup revenue stack up to Grand Slam revenue?
Just give everyone a refund for their Laver Cup tickets now.
PeoplesChamp
Legend
The French and Guy Forget like to be arrogant about things and do stuff their own way. Definitely the thickest skulls among the tennis community. Of course a slam is more important, but that doesn't mean that they did this the right way. They did not. Most reactions have been negative up to this point outside of Vamos crew. It's not just LC.Oh please. Any slam takes precedence of Laver Cup.
Laver Cup is an embarassing joke.
How is any top player going to forgo a slam for the Laver Cup.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
Laver Cup says
Laver Cup to officially supplant RG as the fourth Major, after it holds its own in attendance, sponsors and participation vs RG.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Best to leave it as is. Have to believe virus will have been contained by then. Unless the French govt knows something we don't...
