I think from a strategic perspective, if the FTF know that the FO can’t go ahead in May then makes sense for them to stake their claim to a new spot on the calendar as early as possible. The longer this goes on, the more crowded the back end of the season will potentially become. Coming out early may also mean that they catch players and sponsors before they commit to things like Laver Cup.Don't you think it's ridiculous to take ANY decision, or make ANY announcement at this point?
If the tour is up and running by September, every player is going to be desperate for ranking points and prizemoney: if the ATP tries to force them to play an exho instead of a Slam then there will be a riot.They can do what they want with their event, but if they want players then they have to negotiate with the ATP.
Would be cool if Nadal sided with Federer and boycotted RG. If all the big players boycott this ridiculous move and we have a champion like Tomic or something, it would be priceless.
Why not like this if it is possible
7/27 Tokyo
8/10 Madrid
8/17 Rome
8/24-9/6 RG
9/14 Montreal/Toronto
9/21 Cincy
9/27-10/11 USO
I know, but I don't believe that RG will be held in September and the US Open is in it's normal time slot so only combination that seems logical to me is this:Maybe not even the USO will be held, if the COVID-19 pandemic lasts another 18 months, as scientists from the Imperial College London are predicting. They claim that we will have to wait till the vaccine is available to control the virus.
And, in any case, it seems largely unlikely that the USO will be held but not RG, when the USO is scheduled sooner.
Oh well atleast I triedThat is not possible. Half the top players will be injured by the time RG is finnish.
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Would be cool if Nadal sided with Federer and boycotted RG. If all the big players boycott this ridiculous move and we have a champion like Tomic or something, it would be priceless.
It will be a glorious summer/fall if Corona virus pandemic is put under control. US Open followed by the French shortly after... Historic year for sure regardless of who wins/loses.Imagine ending the year like we did last year againit was so great
Would be cool if Nadal sided with Federer and boycotted RG. If all the big players boycott this ridiculous move and we have a champion like Tomic or something, it would be priceless.
I must say, you do a lot for jinxNo chance of Roland Garros being cancelled.
The pompous reaction of US Open has guaranteed that Roland Garros will be played out of spite, regardless of coronavirus.
Rafa will collect slam #21 at Roland Garros.
That reveals a level of desperation in Rafa, not to mention selfishness. He wants #20 so bad he's willing to get it from a depleted, tired, unprepared field of players, as well as ruin The Laver Cup which has spent months preparing and selling out tickets, and has a good portion of the worlds best players under contract to be in Boston.Nadal isn't boycotting anything. He gave it an ok when RG consulted him.
Who’s already “under contract” to play Laver Cup? Teams haven’t even been named yet.That reveals a level of desperation in Rafa, not to mention selfishness. He wants #20 so bad he's willing to get it from a depleted, tired, unprepared field of players, as well as ruin The Laver Cup which has spent months preparing and selling out tickets, and has a good portion of the worlds best players under contract to be in Boston.
it's a shame, Federer and Nadal were getting on so well.
no worries, negotiations will be starting soon.if they want players then they have to negotiate with the ATP.
no worries, negotiations will be starting soon.
i imagine they were under the belief the Asian tournaments were off the table anyway, so every player would rejoice.
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I am sorry for this silly question but isn't the Laver Cup an Expo, akin to the Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Generals.
Roland Garros had 520,000 spectators in 2019. Capacity at TD Garden is 19,580; over 3 days that 58,740 people through the turnstiles.
The FFT is being proactive, now the world is p*ssed.
You're wrong, of course, but the FO is obviously more important. But the ATP has seen its slots poached so they'll demand compensation.
What if Wimby and USO want to move around the same date? Can we have 3 slams in 3 months for the first time?
i meant that most players might rejoice as RG pays more money. and what do you know about business, haha hahaThat's not really the way to do business, and it's not really about a few players rejoicing. It's about money and how much the FO will pay.
i meant that most players might rejoice as RG pays more money. and what do you know about business, haha haha
cancelling a Slam is also probably pretty bad because of the GOAT problem. they might write that RAFA was ROBBED or so.
I made that exact same point earlier today. That and nobody cared when Laver Cup was scheduled during the same week as other tournaments like St. Petersburg.I am sorry for this silly question but isn't the Laver Cup an Expo, akin to the Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Generals.
Roland Garros had 520,000 spectators in 2019. Capacity at TD Garden is 19,580; over 3 days that 58,740 people through the turnstiles.
The FFT is being proactive, now the world is p*ssed.
I made that exact same point earlier today. That and nobody cared when Laver Cup was scheduled during the same week as other tournaments like St. Petersburg.
hmmpf, you seem to know something about business after allIf a competitor muscles in on your turf and tells you to get out of the way that's pretty obvious schoolyard behaviour.
@The Blond Blur I don't why anyone is taking the Laver Cup seriously? They play a 10 tiebreaker after splitting sets. It's a fun expo. That fact that the ATP runs it does not make it less of an expo. This event should be at the end of the year.
Dude we've been over this, ITF events don't need the approval of the ATP and vice versa. As far as Wimby is concerned, the ITF has come out and said that all their events will be suspended until June 8th. That is after RG will have been concluded, meaning as of now Wimby will remain in its scheduled slot (not to mention grass tennis would be much more difficult to pull off in October). The FFT rescheduling of RG makes more sense now. There must have been closed door meetings, so they learned that the ITF was going to further suspend the season, so they proactively moved the event during one of the deadest points in the season. Laver Cup has already set the precedent of being scheduled during other long-standing ATP events without a peep from fans.So what if Wimbledon moves into a new slot after the USO with full ATP approval?
Dude we've been over this, ITF events don't need the approval of the ATP and vice versa. As far as Wimby is concerned, the ITF has come out and said that all their events will be suspended until June 8th. That is after RG will have been concluded, meaning as of now Wimby will remain in its scheduled slot (not to mention grass tennis would be much more difficult to pull off in October). The FFT rescheduling of RG makes more sense now. There must have been closed door meetings, so they learned that the ITF was going to further suspend the season, so they proactively moved the event during one of the deadest points in the season. Laver Cup has already set the precedent of being scheduled during other long-standing ATP events without a peep from fans.
And again, good luck trying to get the player’s approval for playing Laver Cup over any slam. There's a reason Wimby is held in the summer, it won't work in the fall, plus RG has already been rescheduled to its current slot. Saying that the players would support playing Wimby over Laver Cup, but not RG is more baseless speculation and wishful thinking on your end.They do need the players and that means the ATP, and I've been over this with you as well.
Wimbledon is still on track to be held as usual, but if that becomes impossible it will probably move to after the USO with the ATP's support.
A clay slam can be held in late autumn, whereas a grass one probaby can not.
When Laver Cup was scheduled during the same week as a couple of ATP tournaments, these tournaments weren't cancelled.So the French can do whatever the hell they want without consultation and everyone has to say OK and cancel their events? That’s bulls—t.
The ATP organisers want to give every possible chance for Nadal and Djokovic to overtake Federer's slam count. The race between The Big 3 is THE big story in the sport and brings in so much revenue. They will do everything possible to keep all 4 slams this year, even if it means cancelling a few meaningless ATP 250's/500's.When Laver Cup was scheduled during the same week as a couple of ATP tournaments, these tournaments weren't cancelled.
Why should other tournaments be cancelled, when RG is also scheduled during that week ?![]()
Imagine if Rafa wins the USO and FO back to back
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So it’s Wimbledon - > olympics -> us open -> laver cup -> French open ... all in span of 2.5 months with little to no warmup tournaments i between? Lol
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What dates was RG supposed to be played ?