ROME - 2010 ATP Masters 1000 - Discussion

Who will add the champ's 1000 points to his ranking?


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It wasn't likely that he was going to face all three (sod, federer and djokovic). He can be on cruise control with that lineup.

Yep, and come to think of it, they are not even top 25, except the opponent in the hypothetical final. Easy draw after all.
 

sdont

Legend
Funny fact: Wawrinka will be the third right-hander with a 1HBH in a row that Rafa will face in Rome.
 

Lsmkenpo

Hall of Fame
The clay courts in Rome this year are the lowest bouncing clay courts I have ever seen,
the top grit must be ground very fine to play this way.
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru

RESULTS -- Thursday, 29 April

Singles - Third Round
[2] N Djokovic (SRB) d T Bellucci (BRA) 64 64
[3] R Nadal (ESP) d V Hanescu (ROU) 63 62
[13] D Ferrer (ESP) d [4] A Murray (GBR) 63 64
S Wawrinka (SUI) d [5] R Soderling (SWE) 63 62
[6] F Verdasco (ESP) d G Garcia-Lopez (ESP) 64 76(2)
[7] J Tsonga (FRA) d [Q] S Giraldo (COL) 63 64
F Lopez (ESP) d [11] I Ljubicic (CRO) w/o (left side strain)
E Gulbis (LAT) d [WC] F Volandri (ITA) 62 36 76(4)

Doubles - Second Round
[3] L Dlouhy (CZE) / L Paes (IND) d I Ljubicic (CRO) / M Llodra (FRA) w/o (Ljubicic - left side strain)
J Isner (USA) / S Querrey (USA) d [4] M Bhupathi (IND) / M Mirnyi (BLR) 62 67(5) 10-6
N Almagro (ESP) / M Granollers (ESP) d [5] W Moodie (RSA) / D Norman (BEL) 61 36 10-8
[7] L Kubot (POL) / O Marach (AUT) d J Tipsarevic (SRB) / V Troicki (SRB) 64 60
[WC] S Bolelli (ITA) / P Starace (ITA) d [8] M Knowles (BAH) / B Soares (BRA) 63 67(3) 10-3


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Outbeyond

Legend

RESULTS -- Thursday, 29 April

Singles - Third Round
[2] N Djokovic (SRB) d T Bellucci (BRA) 64 64
[3] R Nadal (ESP) d V Hanescu (ROU) 63 62
[13] D Ferrer (ESP) d [4] A Murray (GBR) 63 64
S Wawrinka (SUI) d [5] R Soderling (SWE) 63 62
[6] F Verdasco (ESP) d G Garcia-Lopez (ESP) 64 76(2)
[7] J Tsonga (FRA) d [Q] S Giraldo (COL) 63 64
F Lopez (ESP) d [11] I Ljubicic (CRO) w/o (left side strain)
E Gulbis (LAT) d [WC] F Volandri (ITA) 62 36 76(4)

Doubles - Second Round
[3] L Dlouhy (CZE) / L Paes (IND) d I Ljubicic (CRO) / M Llodra (FRA) w/o (Ljubicic - left side strain)
J Isner (USA) / S Querrey (USA) d [4] M Bhupathi (IND) / M Mirnyi (BLR) 62 67(5) 10-6
N Almagro (ESP) / M Granollers (ESP) d [5] W Moodie (RSA) / D Norman (BEL) 61 36 10-8
[7] L Kubot (POL) / O Marach (AUT) d J Tipsarevic (SRB) / V Troicki (SRB) 64 60
[WC] S Bolelli (ITA) / P Starace (ITA) d [8] M Knowles (BAH) / B Soares (BRA) 63 67(3) 10-3


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Can't wait to watch the Verdasco-Djokovic rematch!! Vamos Nando!!!:twisted:
 

Bud

Bionic Poster

RESULTS -- Thursday, 29 April

Singles - Third Round
[2] N Djokovic (SRB) d T Bellucci (BRA) 64 64
[3] R Nadal (ESP) d V Hanescu (ROU) 63 62
[13] D Ferrer (ESP) d [4] A Murray (GBR) 63 64
S Wawrinka (SUI) d [5] R Soderling (SWE) 63 62
[6] F Verdasco (ESP) d G Garcia-Lopez (ESP) 64 76(2)
[7] J Tsonga (FRA) d [Q] S Giraldo (COL) 63 64
F Lopez (ESP) d [11] I Ljubicic (CRO) w/o (left side strain)
E Gulbis (LAT) d [WC] F Volandri (ITA) 62 36 76(4)

Doubles - Second Round
[3] L Dlouhy (CZE) / L Paes (IND) d I Ljubicic (CRO) / M Llodra (FRA) w/o (Ljubicic - left side strain)
J Isner (USA) / S Querrey (USA) d [4] M Bhupathi (IND) / M Mirnyi (BLR) 62 67(5) 10-6
N Almagro (ESP) / M Granollers (ESP) d [5] W Moodie (RSA) / D Norman (BEL) 61 36 10-8
[7] L Kubot (POL) / O Marach (AUT) d J Tipsarevic (SRB) / V Troicki (SRB) 64 60
[WC] S Bolelli (ITA) / P Starace (ITA) d [8] M Knowles (BAH) / B Soares (BRA) 63 67(3) 10-3


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Some tasty matches on tap for tomorrow! :grin:

Can't wait to watch the Verdasco-Djokovic rematch!! Vamos Nando!!!:twisted:

Djokovic seems to be playing much better this tourny... should be interesting
 

ruerooo

Legend
What a day of tennis. Exciting!
Do we think TC will broadcast Isner-Querry/Federer-Allegro doubles, since the Americans are playing?
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
Can't wait to watch the Verdasco-Djokovic rematch!! Vamos Nando!!!:twisted:

It's weird to think I'd have to go to sleep now (9:30 p.m.) in order to get six hours sleep before alarm goes off at 4:00 a.m. to watch Nando vs. Nole! :eek: ....... but I gotta do it, cause I'm pretty sure it w/b a good match!

p.s. Yes, after my alarm rang at 4 this morning, I fell back asleep after about 30 minutes of Djokovic vs. Bellucci! :cry: .... don't think the same thing will happen with Nando/Nole! :D
 

sdont

Legend
Second time in a row that Verdasco fails to serve out the set. Even if Djokovic somehow gets to the final, he will be ripped apart by Nadal.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
You think so too? I really hate people who do that, complete lack of respect for the ball people as well, yikes.
 

matchmaker

Hall of Fame
Ferrer, impressive as ever. It is no surprise to me that he owns top players like Murray and Tsonga on this surface.

He is having a very good season, just like Verdasco and to a lesser degree Ferrero.

I would think that this time around, he might win tomorrow against Verdasco, who seems tired and Ferrer seems indefatigable.
 

Breaker

Legend
Ferrer, impressive as ever. It is no surprise to me that he owns top players like Murray and Tsonga on this surface.

He is having a very good season, just like Verdasco and to a lesser degree Ferrero.

I would think that this time around, he might win tomorrow against Verdasco, who seems tired and Ferrer seems indefatigable.

I still don't quite understand how he's never gotten past the quarters at RG, or even gotten to a clay court 1000/MS final (I think).
 

matchmaker

Hall of Fame
I still don't quite understand how he's never gotten past the quarters at RG, or even gotten to a clay court 1000/MS final (I think).

Me neither, it is a mystery... He might have bumped into formidable opponents. Truth is, I think he is top 5 on clay, and yes, he should have made the semis once at least.
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru

RESULTS -- Friday, 30 April, 2010

Singles - Quarter-finals
[6] F Verdasco (ESP) d [2] N Djokovic (SRB) 76(4) 36 64
[3] R Nadal (ESP) d S Wawrinka (SUI) 64 61
[13] D Ferrer (ESP) d [7] J Tsonga (FRA) 64 61
E Gulbis (LAT) d F Lopez (ESP) 76(6) 61

Doubles - Quarter-finals
N Almagro (ESP) / M Granollers (ESP) vs [2] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA)
[7] L Kubot (POL) / O Marach (AUT) d [3] L Dlouhy (CZE) / L Paes (IND) 63 64
J Isner (USA) / S Querrey (USA) d [WC] Y Allegro (SUI) / R Federer (SUI) 64 64
P Cuevas (URU) / J Monaco (ARG) d [WC] S Bolelli (ITA) / P Starace (ITA) 64 64


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ORDER OF PLAY -- Saturday, 1 May 2010
SEMIFINALS


CENTER COURT
Starting At: 1:30 pm
David FERRER (ESP) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP)
Not Before 4:00 PM
Ernests GULBIS (LAT) vs Rafael NADAL (ESP)
followed by
Lukasz KUBOT (POL)/Oliver MARACH (AUT) vs Bob BRYAN (USA)/Mike BRYAN (USA)

PIETRANGELI
Starting At: 12:00 noon
Pablo CUEVAS (URU)/Juan MONACO (ARG) vs John ISNER (USA)/Sam QUERREY (USA)


 

Max G.

Legend
Me neither, it is a mystery... He might have bumped into formidable opponents. Truth is, I think he is top 5 on clay, and yes, he should have made the semis once at least.

At Roland Garros:

2009 - lost in the 3rd round to Soderling in 4 sets.
2008 - lost in the quarterfinals to Gael Monfils in 4 sets.
2007 - lost in the 3rd round to Fernando Verdasco in 4 sets.
2006 - lost in the third round to Ruben Ramirez-Hidalgo in 3 sets???
2005 - lost in the quarterfinals to Rafael Nadal in 3 sets.
2004 - wasn't in the top 50 yet at the time, so I'll stop looking here. 2004 and 2003 he had losses in early rounds, didn't play RG before then.

So yeah, over the past 5 years at Roland Garros - one early flameout, a few early losses to tough players, a few runs to the QF. He just hasn't taken his opportunities when he got them - he's definitely good enough to beat, say, Monfils. Seems to be missing that extra gear in Grand Slams that some players get.
 

Max G.

Legend
To add to that, over those years his losses in the claycourt Masters Series have come to:

Rafael Nadal (SF), Juan Monaco (R32), Paul-Henri Mathieu (R64), Fernando Verdasco (R16), Fernando Verdasco (R16), Radek Stepanek (R32), Rafael Nadal (QF), Roger Federer (QF), Igor Andreev (R64), Roger Federer (QF), Tommy Robredo (QF), Jose Acasuso (R64), Roger Federer (QF), Tomas Berdych (R64), Rafael Nadal (SF), Guillermo Coria (QF).

Again, a respectable list, not too many losses to complete unknowns, though occasionally there's some unexpected ones - but also a lack of dominating performances, and he hasn't been able to take his chances when he gets them. (Remarkable similarity to his Roland Garros performances, actually.)

I suppose I should expect the same thing this week - either a tough loss to Fernando Verdasco in the semis (Verdasco leads their head to head 6-3, having won their last 3 meetings), or a straightforward loss to Nadal in the finals. (That would still be his best result yet. )
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
. . . .
I suppose I should expect the same thing this week - either a tough loss to Fernando Verdasco in the semis (Verdasco leads their head to head 6-3, having won their last 3 meetings), or a straightforward loss to Nadal in the finals. (That would still be his best result yet. )

David hasn't lost a set all week, not even to Tsonga, while Nando did lose a set to Djoko. He did take Nando to 3 in the MC semifinal, and I think he's got a real chance to beat Dasco tomorrow, but even if he does, there's not much of a chance David (or anybody else) is gonna beat Rafa in the final (yes, I think Erno's gonna get a clay court lesson in their semi) :p
 

ruerooo

Legend
David hasn't lost a set all week, not even to Tsonga, while Nando did lose a set to Djoko. He did take Nando to 3 in the MC semifinal, and I think he's got a real chance to beat Dasco tomorrow, but even if he does, there's not much of a chance David (or anybody else) is gonna beat Rafa in the final (yes, I think Erno's gonna get a clay court lesson in their semi) :p

I look forward to that. I was just chatting with some people about the fact that I haven't seen anyone else beat Roger and stay in a tournament for more than two more rounds ... I don't remember the last person who did it. I don't think anyone has done it this season.

But I saw his interview and understand he found another gear in his second set -- and seems more conscious of how he needs to play, and to kind of limit the "warmup" time spent in the first set -- and so I must just be confident that he will play consciously.

Vamos!
 

Halba

Hall of Fame
So yeah, over the past 5 years at Roland Garros - one early flameout, a few early losses to tough players, a few runs to the QF. He just hasn't taken his opportunities when he got them - he's definitely good enough to beat, say, Monfils. Seems to be missing that extra gear in Grand Slams that some players get.

can ferru he stop federer's SF streak if in that part of draw?
has he got the game/mentality. certainly has the form.
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru

RESULTS -- Saturday, 1 May 2010

Singles - Semi-finals
[3] R Nadal (ESP) d E Gulbis (LAT) 64 36 64
[13] D Ferrer (ESP) d [6] F Verdasco (ESP) 75 63

Doubles - Semi-finals
[2] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA) d [7] L Kubot (POL) / O Marach (AUT) 61 62
J Isner (USA) / S Querrey (USA) d P Cuevas (URU) / J Monaco (ARG) 76(5) 76(2)



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stapler

Professional
Just noticed the All American doubles final. Nice to see Isner and Querrey making some deep runs, looks to be quite a promising doubles pair.
 

ruerooo

Legend
Wheee! Congratulations to the Bryans for their 60th doubles championship!

(Since Federer-Allegro couldn't be in the final, I can be a loyal American fan for once :) )

Congratulations to David for his first Masters 1000 final!

Congratulations to Rafa for his record-tying 17th Masters Championship!!

Vamos!!
 

Blinkism

Legend
Yeah, it turned out to be an OK tournament. Nothing amazing, but better than Monte Carlo.

Hopefully Madrid is even better :)

Congrats to Rafa, though, for another good tourney win. Looks like the ghosts of the title drought are gone.

Vamos, indeed!
 

seffina

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, it turned out to be an OK tournament. Nothing amazing, but better than Monte Carlo.

Hopefully Madrid is even better :)

Congrats to Rafa, though, for another good tourney win. Looks like the ghosts of the title drought are gone.

Vamos, indeed!

Although technically rankings wise he faced better competition in Monte Carlo. Funny that, eh?

I hope Madrid is even better. Would be lovely to have Novak/Roger go deeper there and I think they will. I'll be rooting for Rafa for the win (if he plays).
 

Dimension

Professional
Although technically rankings wise he faced better competition in Monte Carlo. Funny that, eh?

I hope Madrid is even better. Would be lovely to have Novak/Roger go deeper there and I think they will. I'll be rooting for Rafa for the win (if he plays).

Yep yep! This clay season is getting interesting and Rafa is picking up great form again. Good luck to him in Madrid and FO! :)
 

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
Wheee! Congratulations to the Bryans for their 60th doubles championship!

(Since Federer-Allegro couldn't be in the final, I can be a loyal American fan for once :) )

Congratulations to David for his first Masters 1000 final!

Congratulations to Rafa for his record-tying 17th Masters Championship!!

Vamos!!

My sentiments exactly!!!
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