Rome 2025 FINAL - Sinner vs Alcaraz

[sortof]

@Hitman: A proper poll is closed before the match starts. Your polls stay open until the end of time.

Again heart versus brain: Raz in 3 probably.

 

[tudwell]

I’ll go with Sinner in two

To be honest, I could see either guy winning in either two or three. Sinner looked pretty vulnerable today in the first and even the third set. Alcaraz has been up and down this week but more (from what I’ve seen) on a point-by-point level, rather than playing flat for an entire set and then having to recover. And he tends to raise his level against Jannik. Though Sinner was on song prior to the semi, so who knows. I think it all kind of cancels out.

This is a day match, right? If so, I think conditions help tilt things Alcaraz’s direction, if only slightly.

 

[dking68]

To be honest, I could see either guy winning in either two or three. Sinner looked pretty vulnerable today in the first and even the third set. Alcaraz has been up and down this week but more (from what I’ve seen) on a point-by-point level, rather than playing flat for an entire set and then having to recover. And he tends to raise his level against Jannik. Though Sinner was on song prior to the semi, so who knows. I think it all kind of cancels out.

This is a day match, right? If so, I think conditions help tilt things Alcaraz’s direction, if only slightly.

Well if Sinner loses, I think he wins RG. If he wins, he probably loses RG

 

[Incognito]

Sinner confirmed he is not injured. He has a blister on his foot which is impacting his movement. And that caused him to get a tight hamstring.

So this means his movement won’t be 100% on Sunday?

 

[Vincent-C]

whose the dude in the pink tank-top

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

Well sinner needs it more than alcaraz. He needs to start collecting titles off hard if he wants to get in GOAT convos in the future

 

[Al Czervik]

 

[dking68]

About right. Sinner is the ever so slight favorite. World number 1, 26 match win streak, giving bakery products in front of the Roman crowd who will be backing him.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Here we go!!!!

Heart wants Carlos, head says Jannik.
Let's go with head this time, Jannik in 2 tight or 3 regular sets.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Alcaraz would have to summon his 2022 clay form. Cause his 2025 form just isn’t good enough at the moment . And sinner is better now on clay than he was last year when they met at RG
If I guess if there is a chance to get sinner though it’s on clay. But off clay I don’t think so anymore.

Well not exactly, dude. In 2022, he lost to Korda & Maroszan of all people in R32 of both MC & Rome masters.

 

[dking68]

Heart wants Carlos, head says Jannik.
Let's go with head this time, Jannik in 2 tight or 3 regular sets.

I’m going with Sin in 2. Thought about it deeply

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Sinner did not beat Carlos at all last year even on hc,

The sample size was too small tbh

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

I’m going with Sin in 2. Thought about it deeply

Could be, he is in a better form & can run Carlos ragged if he gets the crowd behind him & establish early leads in both sets. Let's say he goes up a break to open sets, holds tough the next game, saving BPs, Alca may end up spraying too much and gifting the next or another service game of his, and boom that's game over.

 

[dking68]

Could be, he is in a better form & can run Carlos ragged if he gets the crowd behind him & establish early leads in both sets. Let's say he goes up a break to open sets, holds tough the next game, saving BPs, Alca may end up spraying too much and gifting the next or another service game of his, and boom that's game over.

My only problem for Sinner, he has not played much in the day, and that could really hurt him if it gets boiling hot.

Otherwise, yes, he has been the steadier player and the stats show it.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

My only problem for Sinner, he has not played much in the day, and that could really hurt him if it gets boiling hot.

Otherwise, yes, he has been the steadier player and the stats show it.

I'd want day conditions too, because it favours Alcaraz xD.

But yeah, slow and steady wins the race here (although Sinner is anything but slow)

 

[dking68]

I'd want day conditions too, because it favours Alcaraz xD.

But yeah, slow and steady wins the race here (although Sinner is anything but slow)

If they really want their homebody to win, it would have to be at night. But I have a feeling it’s in the boiling heat. The time has not yet been announced, but historically it has been played in the day

 

[Dropshot777]

Here we go!!!!

Sinner’s gonna win like 6-2 6-3 or something, but I hope it goes to 3. I don’t really care who wins as long as it’s a good match. Maybe I’d lean towards sinner but I’m not sure.

 

[dking68]

@Rafa4LifeEver believe it or not, I actually want Sinner to lose. I think if he wins here, he’s going to lose RG and vice versa. But let’s see

 

[Vincent-C]

I’m going with Sin in 2. Thought about it deeply

Straights would be fine. This ain't RG, though..

 

[nolefam_2024]

Sinner has surpassed Raz as odds on favorite here.

This is what I was thinking last year during RG when I switched my favorite from Raz to Sinner. But he lost in the fifth.

I think on Sunday , Sinner will have his moment on clay. If it happens, it would be MONUMENTAL. Changing the equations on clay.

 

[Pheasant]

So far at Rome:

Sinner
5-0
64.7% Service points won
50.0% return points won
DR 1.42

Alcaraz
5-0
61.5% service points won
45.0% return points won
DR 1.17

Sinner has definitely been more consistent. But this Alcaraz fellow plays Sinner tough. But I cannot ignore the stats. I’m still sticking with Sinner in 3 tight sets. Sinner will win 6-2, 5-7, 7-6 in a barn-burner.

 

[dking68]

So far at Rome:

Sinner
5-0
64.7% Service points won
50.0% return points won
DR 1.42

Alcaraz
5-0
61.5% service points won
45.0% return points won
DR 1.17

Sinner has definitely been more consistent. But this Alcaraz fellow plays Sinner tough. But I cannot ignore the stats. I’m still sticking with Sinner in 3 tight sets. Sinner will win 6-2, 5-7, 7-6 in a barn-burner.

Who’s competition was harder?

Sinner had:
1. Ruud - Madrid Champion
2. Cerundolo - most matches on clay

Alcaraz had:
1. Draper - Madrid finalist
2. Musetti - MC finalist and Madrid SFist

 

[Pheasant]

Who’s competition was harder?

Sinner had:
1. Ruud - Madrid Champion
2. Cerundolo - most matches on clay

Alcaraz had:
1. Draper - Madrid finalist
2. Musetti - MC finalist and Madrid SFist

I’d say the competition was a push. Sinner also had Paul. But Carlos had Khatch.

Carlos will disrupt Sinner’s rhythm. Sinner will need to go big early in rallies in order to win. Alcaraz will need to serve well to win.

I can’t wait for this match.

 

[duaneeo]

One can't help but smile looking at this picture of strong youth.

 

[Arak]

There is no way to predict anything in this match. I don’t even know who I’m rooting for. Just going to enjoy the spectacle.

 

[ghostofMecir]

It might be a long time before Carlitos is a plus-money bet on clay again. This is a value bet if I’ve ever seen one.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

If they really want their homebody to win, it would have to be at night. But I have a feeling it’s in the boiling heat. The time has not yet been announced, but historically it has been played in the day

It should be in the day yes, like it's always been.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

@Rafa4LifeEver believe it or not, I actually want Sinner to lose. I think if he wins here, he’s going to lose RG and vice versa. But let’s see

Come on man, don't believe in such jinxes lol. Jannik would get a lot of confidence if he wins, which is a good thing for his chances at RG.

 

[Krish872007]

Alcaraz is the only one capable of stopping Sinner at the moment. Doesn't mean he will do it here, but he's got as good a chance as any
If they both bring their A games this will be blockbuster. Onwards!

 

[Rosstour]

Hmmmnn, why is Alcaraz Ivan Drago? He never injected himself with steroids.

Yeah Sinner is Drago if anyone lol

 

[Fedforever]

So torn on who to support here.

I feel like actually becoming a Carlos fan leads to a world of possible heartbreak.

But then there's this.......

https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/1kmo981/carlos_alcaraz_and_the_fans_in_rome_after_the

 

[Rosstour]

So torn on who to support here.

I feel like actually becoming a Carlos fan leads to a world of possible heartbreak.

But then there's this.......

https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/1kmo981/carlos_alcaraz_and_the_fans_in_rome_after_the

It has to be Carlos. If for no other reason than the PED ban. On top of that he's the more interesting player and the more engaging personality (maybe the most interesting and engaging on the entire tour)

 

[TennisGrandpA]

Finally the final we have been eagerly waiting for. Both players are on fire , Sinner will be the red hot favourite but Carlos will not be an easy opponent by any means. I urge all Sinner fans to respect Carlos , putting him down doesn’t speak well for Sinner’s competition.

 

[TennisGrandpA]

It has to be Carlos. If for no other reason than the PED ban. On top of that he's the more interesting player and the more engaging personality (maybe the most interesting and engaging on the entire tour)

Man it’s okay if you like Carlos and support him but the reason to dislike Sinner is kinda meh.

 

[TennisGrandpA]

Come on man, don't believe in such jinxes lol. Jannik would get a lot of confidence if he wins, which is a good thing for his chances at RG.

@Rafa4LifeEver believe it or not, I actually want Sinner to lose. I think if he wins here, he’s going to lose RG and vice versa. But let’s see

Same here, Rome winners have been losing RG lately so i don’t want Sinner to win this. He might get complacent.

 

[Deleted member 827468]

Come on man, don't believe in such jinxes lol. Jannik would get a lot of confidence if he wins, which is a good thing for his chances at RG.

btw, last time a guy not named nadal who won rome and rg the same year, was...another austrian..muster, exactly thirty years ago..

 

[Dilexson]

I think Raz will take this. Don't mind tho, can't hate the dude.

 

[dking68]

Same here, Rome winners have been losing RG lately so i don’t want Sinner to win this. He might get complacent.

2020 - Djokovic won Rome. Lost in RG F
2021 - Nadal won Rome. Lost RG SF
2022- Djokovic won Rome. Lost in RG QF
2023 - Medvedev won Rome. Lost in RG
2024 - Zverev won Rome. Lost in RG F

Yup, not a good look

 

[Deleted member 827468]

2020 - Djokovic won Rome. Lost in RG F
2021 - Djokovic won Rome. Won RG
2022- Djokovic won Rome. Lost in RG QF
2023 - Medvedev won Rome. Lost in RG
2024 - Zverev won Rome. Lost in RG F

Yup, not a good look

nadal won rome in 21

 

[dking68]

nadal won rome in 21

Yes I corrected

 

[dking68]

@alexio so basically if Sinner has aspirations of winning RG, he’s should lose Rome. But knowing him, he’s probably going to win and lose RG

 

[dking68]

2020 - Djokovic won Rome. Lost in RG F
2021 - Nadal won Rome. Lost RG SF
2022- Djokovic won Rome. Lost in RG QF
2023 - Medvedev won Rome. Lost in RG
2024 - Zverev won Rome. Lost in RG F

Yup, not a good look

@Rafa4LifeEver @TennisGrandpA @TheGoldenEra1990’s @Lleytonstation

 

[Deleted member 827468]

@alexio so basically if Sinner has aspirations of winning RG, he’s should lose Rome. But knowing him, he’s probably going to win and lose RG

yea, from historical standpoint better to lose for him here in order to have more chances at rg, although muster did it back then, why he cant do it too, so its kinda a double-edged sword a bit haha

 

[TennisGrandpA]

btw, last time a guy not named nadal who won rome and rg the same year, was...another austrian..muster, exactly thirty years ago..

Even Nadal lost at RG in 2021 after winning Rome I guess

 

[TennisGrandpA]

@Rafa4LifeEver @TennisGrandpA @TheGoldenEra1990’s @Lleytonstation

You know that’s why i told you before I don’t care about Rome and wanted it to be a practice tournament for Sinner, bigger prize is RG

 

[TennisGrandpA]

Now it’s time to predict winner and I’ll go with Carlos , he can happily win it and get gassed for RG after a long clay season and then rested and well massaged Sinner can smoke his way to RG titles @dking68 ill be cheering against Sinner today

 

[TennisGrandpA]

Could be, he is in a better form & can run Carlos ragged if he gets the crowd behind him & establish early leads in both sets. Let's say he goes up a break to open sets, holds tough the next game, saving BPs, Alca may end up spraying too much and gifting the next or another service game of his, and boom that's game over.

I am happy to see how you started seeing the light and now acknowledge the beast Sinner has become now, we have been telling you for ages.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I’m still leaning alcaraz slightly. It on clay and it will be played in day time where he stronger and his last couple matches been played then. Alcaraz also has won the recent battles between the two.

Sinner has the form, consistency and game to win but he has to solve the alcaraz puzzle. Alcaraz is very tough to beat in big finals and I think he might just edge it again. This is a huge match though just before RG. Sinner needs it to prove he can beat alcaraz again and alcaraz needs it to still look like the main favourite on clay and for RG.

It should be a cracker. It can go either way but going Carlos in 3.

 

[speedysteve]

Alca in 3 for me.
There will be ups and there will be downs

I reckon Alca will jerk Sinner's slight injury about with dropshots.
(Did we see Paul play one dropshot yesterday?)

I don't mind who wins.
Want a good match and none of this harping on that past players were better.
Please post that carp in the former proplayer area.

 

[James P]

Sinner with the opportunity to win his 6th straight big title, one short of the (Open Era, at least) record 7 in a row that Djokovic has twice done.