Rome BNL Rain Delay on the final day!
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Virginia
Hall of Fame
As I posted elsewhere, the Roland Garros site is showing Federer as the No 2 seed and the ATP rankings for this week have been updated, so the result in Rome is immaterial.
nadal_slam_king
Banned
The seedings won't matter in the end. Last couple of weeks, Federer dropped sets to Raonic, Berdych, FERRERO, so no way is he in the form required to make a run at Roland Garros. He will lose points, probably a QF exit.
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cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Are you a psychic too now? Just worry about your hero Nadal would you. Your predictions about all of the last 8 Djokovic/Nadal matches (aside from the MC anomaly) where you said Nadal would win easily and Djokovic would have no chance have been wrong.
The Gentleman's Sport
Rookie
I didn't argue that both should get the winner's points, so either direct your argument at someone else or fine tune it.
But yes, in Rome, Djokovic and Nadal are special, because they reached the final and could potentially gain more points - they shouldn't be effectively penalised for circumstances out of their control. That goes for every final, by the way, not just today's situation.
As for your implausible musing on a semis cancellation, here's another of equal relevance: What if tennis was canceled does that mean djokovic #1 4eva???
The worst solution to an issue like this.
"BREAKING: Roland Garros crowns Djokovic winner in Rome!"
nadal_slam_king
Banned
Are you a psychic too now? Just worry about your hero Nadal would you. Your predictions about all of the last 8 Djokovic/Nadal matches (aside from the MC anomaly) where you said Nadal would win easily and Djokovic would have no chance have been wrong.
I haven't made any predictions about Djokovic/Nadal last year, go and check my history and get into reality.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Sure Bulszilla or whatever your 10 other alias names are. You are not fooling anybody on here. :mrgreen:
FlashFlare11
Hall of Fame
Anyone remember when Ferrer took a set from Roger in the past few weeks? Anyone?
Is NSK in his own fantasy?
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nadal_slam_king
Banned
You are in a fantasy land, good luck with that. From what I can tell, Bulszlla is Clarky21.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Ferrer is Roger's pigeon even more so than he is Nadal's pigeon.
RF20Lennon
Legend
Why are you so condescending?? no wonder so many folks dislike you around here. Its one thing to support your fav player another to bash everyone else. Calm down son
nadal_slam_king
Banned
Look who's bashing who now. If you have a problem with me then do the SMART thing and put me on your ignore list, as I am about to do to you in 5 seconds. BYE, kid.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
I apologise, what was your solution, give them both 800 points? I don't see the sense in giving them points for a match they didn't win unless you just give them the same points they got last year so no-one LOSES anything, and no one gains anything relative to Rome 2011.
Nadal and Djokovic may have made the final but they didn't win the title, so finalist points is probably the best solution. It's unfourtunate but maybe they can have a one match play off for 400 points later in the season
anyway hopefully it gets played.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
he must be thinking of Nadal almost losing both sets of the barcalona final against him.
Anyway let's not be too hard on nadal slam king, it's obvious he has some issues, maybe depression or mental illness and needs help.
RF20Lennon
Legend
Cool story bro obviously you dont know how to act in a civilized manner.
nadal_slam_king
Banned
Speaking of issues, you continue to post like a psychotic, obsessed with me. How does it feel to be owned by an unknown person online?
RF20Lennon
Legend
LOL look at you talking to yourself
FlashFlare11
Hall of Fame
Yes, it's best not egg him on. He has this illusion that he's "owned" all of us and it's better for all of us that this charade is maintained.
Clarky21
Banned
Please ignore Bullzilla. We all backslide once in a while and respond to him,but it is always a waste of time.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
I've hardly ever mentioned you except when responding to you directly, and you know, responding to people is what a forum is for. Perhaps you have some sort of false sense of importance syndrome.
How does it feel to have your life ruled by a spanish man who plays tennis and has nothing to do with your life? The sooner you stop with this bleak little game the better for you.
nadal_slam_king
Banned
So you are obsessed with my posts, because you keep replying to every one of my posts. It is flattering that my tennis opinion means so much to you.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
Are you a psychic too now? Just worry about your hero Nadal would you. Your predictions about all of the last 8 Djokovic/Nadal matches (aside from the MC anomaly) where you said Nadal would win easily and Djokovic would have no chance have been wrong.
Get off your high horses. Federer fans make worse predictions against Rafa.
Nobody does it like Clarky who is a closeted Fed fan, DFTW etc.
And you don't say anything against it. NSK should even it out.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
Hi Clarky. Miss me ?
The Gentleman's Sport
Rookie
Ah, I don't think I can give it the proper consideration it deserves, but out of the options presented, I agree with jm1980's 800 point each solution.I apologise, what was your solution, give them both 800 points? I don't see the sense in giving them points for a match they didn't win unless you just give them the same points they got last year so no-one LOSES anything, and no one gains anything relative to Rome 2011.
Nadal and Djokovic may have made the final but they didn't win the title, so finalist points is probably the best solution. It's unfourtunate but maybe they can have a one match play off for 400 points later in the season
anyway hopefully it gets played.
Djokovic obviously loses out here, but less so than if he simply received the finalist's 600. Nadal gains, but less than if he had won the title properly. Both players are technically equal if the match isn't played. Yes, no one wins if it isn't played, but tennis has no 'draw' outcome, so from my p.o.v., someone had to win, and those winner's points should be distributed evenly otherwise there's a net loss in points for the total year. Without the current circumstances influencing this decision (where finalists are defending points from last year and rankings are at stake), I think this would be an adequate solution.
Awarding anyone based on last year's results is unreasonable imo, especially since this isn't an ordinary situation (same 2 players meeting in a masters final in consecutive years).
It will be played, so these are just my 2 cents on the fairest solution for situations like this.
Clarky21
Banned
stringertom
Bionic Poster
By this "logic", how do you explain the RG'11 run to the finals? After all, he lost MATCHES, not sets to Melzer and Gasquet, neither of them as highly ranked as Berdych. Explain this, o seer of the future!
nadal_slam_king
Banned
Melzer and Gasquet are chokers at the slams. Whereas if Federer ran into Berdych at Roland Garros, you know Berdych is ok with beating Federer, as he did at Wimbledon. And Raonic, while inexperienced, will only get better at slams.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
I haven't replied to even 5% of your 3000 posts so again you are suffering from a heightened sense of importance. i have replied to many posters more then you. and you keep replying to me even when i wasn't talking to you. seriously dude, get some help.
Wait so...if Federer loses to some chokers it means he is in good enough form to make a grand slam final, but if he loses sets to others, some of whom have actually MADE a grand slam final before, it means he's in too bad of form?
Might as well tell everybody you found a square circle.
ThoughtCrime
Rookie
NSK is peaking
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
No sorry, NSK and his 10 or more aliases (are you another alias) are worse than most other posters. This guy makes comments in his posts that even most Nadal fans cringe at. He is in a class all by himself I am afraid, out to lunch completely.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Non_Sense_King spinning at his/her best again...you said Fed will exit QFs or earlier bcoz of set losses to Raonic, Berdych and Ferrero @ Madrid and Rome. I countered he lost matches (@M-C & Rome) in '11 to Melzer and Gasquet. Nobody mentioned any of their performance lines at majors. Besides, Melzer has a SF appearance @ RG. Not exactly how you describe a "choker", no?
The mark of a loser at the art of debate is the habit of changing subjects when confronted with reality. In that skill category, you truely are a Slam King!
volleynets
Hall of Fame
No one noticed your absence, Clarky and NSK have kept us so inundated and entertained
NSK's peaks coincide with Nadal's. If Noel starts dishing them out, NSK will un-peak. That is why the Rome final is so crucial -- it determines whether NSK will keep poasting or not.
NSK, if Noel wins Rome final:
Sentinel have you already forgotten about the GTOATs gj011 and King of Aces?
