Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by MonkeyBoy, Mar 20, 2013.
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Is nobody else noticing what Rosol is doing right before his opponent's serve everytime? Ticking the racquet on the ground and sometimes making a distracting motion (atleast it looks like what some club players do to distract the opponent)
I am waiting with baited breath that Nadal draws this mug sooner rather than later. He's a gigantic joke with too much mouth and nothing to back it up. Hopefully, this solid beatdown from Cvac will shut up the people around here and make the word "Rosoled" totally extinct.
I guess Djokovic just wanted to go sleep early
lol I did notice the hitting the racquet on the ground thing. Pretty annoying.
Remember last year at Wimby when Nadal was playing him, he was doing all sorts of things to distract Nadal before he served? People on here were giving Nadal hell for complaining about it, but here he is doing it yet again. Rosol may have just taken over for Cvac as my most hated player. Mug and clown do not even begin to describe this guy.
Yep, no one had a problem with it then.
Mr. Berdych would like a word with you
I didn't see it last year. You don't hear the tick on grass, you do hear it (very loudly) on hard court. I honestly didn't really see what the big deal was at Wimbledon. The dancing around was a bit annoying but isn't that done by more players, just to get yourself ready for moving to the ball?
Haha I remember that video! It's not difficult to make Berdych upset
What would you do if Rafa draws him first round at Wimbledon with roof closed. That would be a terrific match wouldn't it?
Sure would. Nadal will never lose to that mug again so I am not one bit worried about that scenario happening. I say bring it on.
What if he does, though? It's safe to say that all hell would break lose in TT. It's better for Nadal to just never play him again. Now it just looks like a fluke and everyone knows Nadal is the better player anyway. If he loses again though..
Come on, Rosol is not beating Nadal again. There really is no "if".
Nadal would lose to THIS version of Djokovic too. Better players than Rosol have been obliterated by Djokovic on these courts. Check back to 2011 and see what Djokovic was doing to players like Soderling, Berdych, Wawrinka, Monfils, Fish, etc.
Oh God that would be a blemish on his entire career if he loses again to Rosol in a major. It would be worse than Roger's 2-8 H-H against Rafa.
First week of Wimbledon, if Rosol is in form and serving big on the fast grass, his game can hold up. These courts aren't like Wimbledon grass. LOL
By these courts is it only in miami or does it include last weeks hard courts?
any hardcourts. If Djokovic is in the mood, he'll destroy anybody. Today's Djokovic might have been in elite form compared to the version that played in last week's Indian Wells.
Nadal wouldn't share your sentiments if he had to play Rosol again on grass. Grass is designed for big serving ball bashers. Molasses slow Miami hardcourts aren't.
Rosol hits the ball so hard. Even more recklessly than Blake sometimes.
This proves how much tougher it is to beat Djokovic with ball striking compared to Nadal.
now all we need is for nadal to play rosol and destroy him to end all of the rosol references on ttw...
Not really. Rosol played a completely different match that day at Wimbledon with almost no unforced errors on a faster court with a lower bounce. Not sure how you can compare the two.
Nadal would have to destroy Rosol at Wimbledon to end all the rosol references.
Yeah, not sure why people are comparing fast grass to molasses hardcourts.
Rosol played the match of his life to win versus Nadal in that 2012 Wimbledon match. Nadal was not at his best either. Both factors combined led to a huge upset. Yet, the commentators had it right when they said that folks should stop expecting those same results from Rosol day in and day out. They mentioned that it was a "one off" match for Rosol and that seems accurate. Since then, his tournament results have essentially mirrored his results prior to the Nadal win. He is not going to be a top 10 or top 20 player anytime soon. He can exhibit flashes of brilliance, but he is just too inconsistent to compete with the top players like Djokovic on a regular basis.
Well..didn't expect the scoreboard to be like that
Why was this a thread haha? Did anyone expect anything other than Djokovic destroying Rosol?
6-1 6-0 was impressive though. For me Djok is still the best hard court player out there (Nadal fan as I am). Djok may struggle on the slower grittier hard courts like IW sometimes, but give him a smooth hard court in decent conditions and he takes some beating.
Will we see Nadal vs. Djokovic at the U.S. Open again? As of now, I'm going with Nadal if they play there again this year, but we'll see how things play out with the French Open, Wimbledon and the hard court season first.
see the poll
I agree that Cvac is the best hc player right now, but Rosol played so awful last night, Cvac didn't have to do much to get the win. Check out the stats for the match if you don't believe me.
Rosol's win against Nadal at Wimbledon wasn't a huge surprise. Look back at Nadal's runs in previous Wimbledons. A lot of his matches went 5 sets or he had to come back from 2 sets to 1 down or 2 sets down. He always struggled at Wimbledon, especially in the first week.
2010 Wimbledon first week was a near disaster for him.
Dont count out Murray or Del Potro there either though. Any of those 4 could win the U.S Open this year.
I'd agree, but would actually add in Roger Federer there. I'll still take Nadal as #1.
Even if Nadal has struggled before in early matches, he was seen with perhaps a 5% chance of winning that match and rightly so. He had never played that way at Wimbledon and of course, hasn't played that way since against a top opponent. So, it was a huge surprise, no matter how one slices it. Now, was it completely out of the realm of possibility given that Nadal had at times struggled in early Wimbledon matches? No it wasn't, but ask any seasoned observer and they'll answer that the result was absolutely unexpected. With hindsight, especially given his knee injury, the loss looks more understandable. It was a shocker at the time though.
There's no guarantee that Nadal with a good knee would've won either. He came out and got broken immediately and that's ALL it took. Even though he held all of his service games thereafter, he couldn't get a racquet on anything Rosol hit. It was basically like playing Karlovic in that set. Even Nadal dreads playing him because it only takes 1 break of serve or a lapse in focus.
What the hell? Clarky saying Nadal will NOT lose to someone?!! Much like nadal's knees she's been rehabilitated!
Must have been interesting watching rosol vs cvac. kind of like Hitler vs Stalin.
this US Open has Berdych written all over it...
I completely agree. That final set Rosol played was almost flawless. Nadal was in the zone too after playing a great 4th set. He didn't lose it, Rosol won it. Nadal at his absolute best would have struggled to beat Rosol in that 5th set. Some of the shotmaking was ridiculous.
Again agree with that. Look at the Petschzner and Haase matches in 2010 (I think?) When the courts are fast and lower bouncing Rafa struggles more than in the second week when they can play more like a clay court.
I agree that Rosol played lights out, but it was the match of his life too. Has he played that well in any other match, before or ever since? He started playing great right at the start and I'm not sure that Nadal would have won had he been healthier, but I know the chances would have been much better. What are the odds of Rosol playing that well at Wimbledon and Nadal playing poorly and being not at his best physically? That was not expected that it would all happen at once, but since there was that confluence of factors, a big upset occurred.
Exactly. First week of Wimbledon is probably the highest risk for everybody on the tour including the top 4 players. Federer was lucky he didn't get bounced in the first round of Wimbledon 2010. His opponent was actually serving for the match!
Wimbledon first week is just very tense. I could very easily see somebody like Kevin Anderson, Jerzy Janowicz, Lucas Rosol, Gulbis, Karlovic, Isner, etc eliminating ANYBODY in the top 4 in the first week. No doubt in my mind. The grass is just designed for huge servers and big hitters.
Yep good post. Although of the big 4, I would say Rafa is the most vulnerable in that first week but arguably the most at home come the final 2-3 days when the courts break up (you could argue Federer is at home on the grass whatever the conditions I guess).
What will hurt Rafa is if the rain comes and the roof closes. Damn British summer...
Well the thing is, Nadal hasn't played his best in many many matches that he's won. I mean if everybody played their absolute best in every match, we probably wouldn't have the top 4 winning everything. We'd have many many more surprises and upsets.
Nadal won tournaments which he played poorly in. He wins because he has that extra thing about him that others don't. The self belief, the will to win, etc.
Rosol just happened to have something special that day. Whether Rosol could pull off such a performance again is anybody's guess but we certainly know that his style of game on fast grass could be dangerous for anybody.
It's actually possible that Nadal may have lost that match in straight sets to Rosol if you look back.
Nadal was pretty lucky to even win the first set in the tiebreaker as Rosol was a bit loose. Rosol won the next 2 sets and Nadal had to fight for the 4th before the rain came. If Rosol had won that first set, maybe he'd have gotten Nadal out of there in straights which would've been even more of a shocker. But tennis doesn't quite work that way. There are ups and downs and momentum shifts in sports.
Indoor grass is splendid to watch. It's like shotguns being fired with those big serves and forehands echoing throughout the stadium. Didn't Rosol hit a 99mph backhand winner against Nadal in that 5th set?
Oh yeah, remember when Gulbis eliminated Berdych in straight set tiebreakers last year at Wimbledon in the first round? And what was Gulbis' ranking compared to Berdych's again? :lol:
Then Nadal loses to Rosol. Another example of the curse of Wimbledon week 1.
He did yes. I remember that too. Some of the shotmaking was insane. I was gutted for Rafa but in awe of some of that shotmaking because it was just too good. I guess the roof closing helped because it took the elements out of the equation and the margin for error, but fair play to Rosol. One of the best sets I have seen at Wimbledon; right up there with Djokovic's 2nd set vs Nadal in 2011.
Ah yeah, that was an impressive level for Djokovic. It helped that Nadal lost his focus after the first set when being up 30-0 and on serve and then still losing the set even despite serving at what was it, 91% first serves???
Djokovic's return was classic that day. Not even Murray or Federer at their best handled Nadal's serve so well on grass.
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