Maybe, but I'm convinced she can still do a LOT better than what we saw today if she puts in the work. And if she does a lot better, she can get a few wins. Probably not a slam, but a few wins yes.41 out of shape come on man. She has been out of shape for years. Been saying it. She should retire.
That the best quote.tantastic match
It’s cool.Serena had never lost 1R at Wimbledon (in a completed match) in her entire career. Even without a year on tour, it’s still an upset. Especially against a French unknown.
I mean I do agree to an extent. On paper, not an upset. But betting odds had Harmony at $5 to Serena’s $1.25. And I don’t think many had her losing 1R. And she actually looked like she should have won the match. She was up 3-1 in the third set. She served for the match at 5-4. And she led 4-0 in the tiebreaker.It’s cool.
i just don’t think there’s a lot to expect from her at 40, in her shape, with zero matches in ages.
So I don’t think it’s really an upset.
Just dramatic.
Say that again and I will ram my racquet down your throat
Whaaaaaat....Tauziat is her coach? I watched the whole match and never noticed. Doh.
But she has not played for a year, I know her record an all that, but it rather makes a mockery of the tour if she can turn up that unprepared and win , give the women on the tour some credit, even the unknowns, for participation and moving up the rankings ,( HT was not a wild card in the tournament,) and being match fitSerena had never lost 1R at Wimbledon (in a completed match) in her entire career. Even without a year on tour, it’s still an upset. Especially against a French unknown.
...but she showed some clear rust and hasn't played in a year. I think this match was encouraging. Maybe she'll try to play a few tournaments and get herself back into some semblance of form.I mean I do agree to an extent. On paper, not an upset. But betting odds had Harmony at $5 to Serena’s $1.25. And I don’t think many had her losing 1R. And she actually looked like she should have won the match. She was up 3-1 in the third set. She served for the match at 5-4. And she led 4-0 in the tiebreaker.
I'd agree. I'd felt the same way for that long. If she was more slender like Venus, without all the extra ---, maybe she might still have chances now. Plus been way too part-time in the last two years.41 out of shape come on man. She has been out of shape for years. Been saying it. She should retire.
Mouratoglu found SW evasive for months about when he could expect her to do some serious training. She kept putting it off. Finally he went to see her in person and told her she'd have to show up by some set date, and if she didn't, he'd sever connection with her.Tbh if Serena wants to be competitive again, she needs to get more fit and match ready (i.e. actually playing more matches). Her movement was terrible (has been for many years), she hesitated on many shots leading to a ton of errors and even her trusty serve couldn't bail her out
Do you think so? In planning her return, SW might have had her eye on Wimby as at least some chance of that 24th, because Barty and Osaka wouldn't be there, even if Swiatek probably would be. It was a humiliating defeat....but she showed some clear rust and hasn't played in a year. I think this match was encouraging. Maybe she'll try to play a few tournaments and get herself back into some semblance of form.
...but she showed some clear rust and hasn't played in a year. I think this match was encouraging.
FTFY.Serena saves match point to hold serve and force a tiebreak in her first match in a year against a nobody.
She's out of the doubles, after narrowly winning a first-rounder. She teamed with Jabeur, who withdrew due to an injury (the kind that doesn't keep you from playing singles).Anyone know if Serena is sticking around for the doubles?
She could conceivably do well there (cough cough).
Maybe wheelchair doubles?
Tan came out with a great game plan. Instead of the usual brainless WTA ball bashing, she has decided to use actual skill. Serena is not enjoying all these dropshots, side spin shots and low bouncing slices coming her way.
Ultimately Tan is a lightweight trying to fight a heavyweight, so despite her greater skill, I suspect she will lose. Still there is a lesson for the rest of the WTA is how to beat monster power players.
Not to diss Serena who fought hard despite having no match form whatsoever, but I think Federer takes tennis in general and preparation for tournaments more seriously than she does. Yes, he was a bit half-cocked upon his return in 2021, but it was nothing close to this degree of half-cocked. He showed that he could still play although his body couldn't quite keep up in the end. But it's clear to me that Federer would never show up to a Major like this. Not at 40. Not at 50.As a Federer fan, I hope this isn't what I can expect 12 months from now - Fed losing gallantly in 5 sets to Johnny Nobody and it's somehow one of his most impressive achievements ever.
I'd agree. I'd felt the same way for that long. If she was more slender like Venus, without all the extra ---, maybe she might still have chances now. Plus been way too part-time in the last two years.
Do you think so? In planning her return, SW might have had her eye on Wimby as at least some chance of that 24th, because Barty and Osaka wouldn't be there, even if Swiatek probably would be. It was a humiliating defeat.
I'm not sure she wants to risk another defeat in NY, and she doesn't like to put in the training effort.
I'm half convinced we've seen the last of her on court.
I have no idea if this would work for her but Ronaldo is known to reduce his body fat every ear. He’s now below 7% compared to the male player average of 11%. All to make up for his loss in speed and movement.
If Serena is serious about a great run, she of course needs to be on tour but also get into a shape she’s never been in. I doubt however she is that obsessed with another slam like many pretend to know she is
Evert knows she had a kid. We ALL know she had a kid. OK, enough. Ready for some spicy Radu comments tomorrow. Ciao.See my reply below re her
Osaka wouldn't necessarily have been any better, she skipped Wimbledon for a reason (it wasn't the points). She is the WTA Medvedev, best on hard courts
Lots of talk about how fat she is and how she needs to get more serious. But no mention of the fact that she had a kid, which absolutely wrecks your core strength. That's why she's having issues moving AND putting the sting on her shots. Her arms and legs are having to do all the work.
Evert knows she had a kid. We ALL know she had a kid. OK, enough. Ready for some spicy Radu comments tomorrow. Ciao.
You can't be serious!Serena looks a hell of a lot less fat than Kim Clijsters did.
You can't be serious!
Clijsters wasn't wearing a cover to hide anything (like Serena was).
You can't be serious!
Clijsters wasn't wearing a cover to hide anything (like Serena was).
That's kind of what I was thinking. Better than losing 6-2 6-0 to a higher ranked player.- She got to go out with a nail-biter of a close match instead of being trounced 6-1, 6-0 etc.
I saw that, embarrassing to be acting like that in a first round match!
Hey, she lost, but at least she fell to her knees in jubilation, celebrating as if she'd just won the tournament and her 24th slam. Some iffy karma right there. And some classic memes waiting to happen.
That was Eastbourne ...she is not entered in the doubles at Wimbledon, in fact I think she would struggle to get an entry unless a really good doubles player took the hit to pair with herShe's out of the doubles, after narrowly winning a first-rounder. She teamed with Jabeur, who withdrew due to an injury (the kind that doesn't keep you from playing singles).
Yeah because she has been playing on the tour, and has skills that she thinks can win matches , that how it works,The old Serena would not get broken serving for the match at 5-4 in the 3rd set. Tan held her nerve quite well and even though she didn't have the power to match Serena, played well and hit some absolute clutch forehands and backhands down the line.
and I cannot unsee that.Yeah, when Serena's skirt blew up and stuck to her waist, she was, shall we say... exposed.
As a Federer fan, I hope this isn't what I can expect 12 months from now - Fed losing gallantly in 5 sets to Johnny Nobody and it's somehow one of his most impressive achievements ever.
Serena Williams can sometimes beat tennis odds, but she can't beat the laws of physics, which is what she needed to do with the extra weight she was carrying around.
Serena looks a hell of a lot less fat than Kim Clijsters did.
See my reply below re her
Osaka wouldn't necessarily have been any better, she skipped Wimbledon for a reason (it wasn't the points). She is the WTA Medvedev, best on hard courts
Lots of talk about how fat she is and how she needs to get more serious. But no mention of the fact that she had a kid, which absolutely wrecks your core strength. That's why she's having issues moving AND putting the sting on her shots. Her arms and legs are having to do all the work.
She needs to be 20 againTbh if Serena wants to be competitive again, she needs to get more fit and match ready (i.e. actually playing more matches). Her movement was terrible (has been for many years), she hesitated on many shots leading to a ton of errors and even her trusty serve couldn't bail her out
Should've. But she got badly outplayed in the tie-break from the 4-1 point onwards.All due respect to Tan (who put up a great fight) but Serena really should have won that match after going up 6-1 in the 2nd set and then racing to a 4-0 lead in the deciding tie-break!![]()