Rublev will win slams.

socallefty

Hall of Fame
It seems like Rublev has won all the non-Slam tournament this year that Djokovic did not win. Impressive!

Looks like his confidence will be sky-high going into 2021 and only good things can happen as a result - at least a few Slam semifinals should happen next year.
 

Olli Jokinen

Semi-Pro
I do not see ANY of Rublev, Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Sinner, Alliasime, Medvedev, Berretini, Thiem* - or any of that overhyped generation ever winning Slams.

None of them have any offensive weapons, they're all just pushers.

The next guy with the firepower to actually win a Slam probably hasn't even been born yet.

*And yes, Thiem still hasn't won a proper Slam, that USO doesn't count - it was a joke and everyone knows it.
Tsitsipas a "pusher"?
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Rublev is really not that good. Just because he's winning now, doesn't mean he's overall a good player to win some slams. He's winning now because all the good players have had their fill and are resting or won enough that they don't need to play all these smaller tournaments. He doesn't win enough against the top 8 players. He loses to a lot of lower ranked players as well randomly. Dan Evans, Hurkacz. You won't win slams if these guys are standing in your way, let alone a Medvedev. If you have problems with these guys, don't even think you will have much chance against a Djokovic who isn't in tank mode. When Djoker isn't tanking, you're going to get steamrolled under serbian tiger.

Dude is consistent af lately, and the wins are starting to rack up. Definitely expecting him to win a slam in the next few years (if it even takes that long). He was scary good against Thiem yesterday :eek:

 

Clay lover

Hall of Fame
I see some people discrediting him because he defends well too and it's frankly unfair. Nowadays basically if you happen to have grit along with aggression your defence gets overblown and your offence ignored. Worse still, if you win the FO, then you must be the greatest pusher.

It's not the players' choice the conditions make it so hard for hitting through people. Incorporating a good defensive game is basically a must nowadays.
 

stingstang

Professional
Rublev is really not that good. Just because he's winning now, doesn't mean he's overall a good player to win some slams. He's winning now because all the good players have had their fill and are resting or won enough that they don't need to play all these smaller tournaments. He doesn't win enough against the top 8 players. He loses to a lot of lower ranked players as well randomly. Dan Evans, Hurkacz. You won't win slams if these guys are standing in your way, let alone a Medvedev. If you have problems with these guys, don't even think you will have much chance against a Djokovic who isn't in tank mode. When Djoker isn't tanking, you're going to get steamrolled under serbian tiger.
100% get why you’re skeptical, so many hyped players who ain’t dun nuttin. I’ve watched a lot of his matches and I’m feeling he is for real and this isn’t just a hot streak. He’s always been a great ball striker but it’s all looking grooved and reliable now. Mentally way more mature.

Not saying hes going to win a slam just yet but expect him to carry on winning 500’s, win a 1000 and make a slam semi soon.
 

GhostOfNKDM

Rookie
Dude is consistent af lately, and the wins are starting to rack up. Definitely expecting him to win a slam in the next few years (if it even takes that long). He was scary good against Thiem yesterday :eek:

I’m not sure scary good is the adjective I’d use but yeah he’s one of the many promising young guys.

I just don’t see a killer shot in this gen to dominate the slams. So many matches will come down to who’s marginally the better guy on a given day.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Rublev beat a "lucky loser" in the finals that hasn't posted any big victories besides a tanked out Djokovic who wants to go on holidays. Rublev grunts and tries to go all out on every ball, but you can't fernando gonzalez the ball and think that you'll get GS results. You'll get Fernando Gonzalez results. Gonzalez was the same around the top 6-8, made a finals appearance. But like Rublev, once you get into the late stages of a slam, the really good players don't care how hard you grunt or try to rocket the ball. They have tactics that will disjoint your game and throw you off. And frankly, guys like Djokovic aren't really bothered by his hard flat shots. If everybody gets knocked out early like Kevin Anderson's USO grandslam run, then maybe rublev will get lucky.

This guy is nothing special. It's not about hitting the ball hard (a la Jerzy Jancovicz). The better players have a much more smooth relaxed style. You don't hear Fed grunt and slam the ball on his groundies, and djokovic is more of a medium paced guy with just excellent defense and ball placement. Rublev does well during this tournament and you all jump on his band wagon. How about letting someone prove you by 1 solid year of constant results.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Jerzy Jancovicz was one of the most over hyped modern players. But he did prove himself by beating Djokovic, Nadal and maybe even murray all in one tournament. But where is he now? A phantom. People need to pare down their expectations because it reminds me of a 15 year old kid who dates some girl then thinks that that girl will be his wife for 80 years.

100% get why you’re skeptical, so many hyped players who ain’t dun nuttin. I’ve watched a lot of his matches and I’m feeling he is for real and this isn’t just a hot streak. He’s always been a great ball striker but it’s all looking grooved and reliable now. Mentally way more mature.

Not saying hes going to win a slam just yet but expect him to carry on winning 500’s, win a 1000 and make a slam semi soon.
 
Rublev beat a "lucky loser" in the finals that hasn't posted any big victories besides a tanked out Djokovic who wants to go on holidays. Rublev grunts and tries to go all out on every ball, but you can't fernando gonzalez the ball and think that you'll get GS results. You'll get Fernando Gonzalez results. Gonzalez was the same around the top 6-8, made a finals appearance. But like Rublev, once you get into the late stages of a slam, the really good players don't care how hard you grunt or try to rocket the ball. They have tactics that will disjoint your game and throw you off. And frankly, guys like Djokovic aren't really bothered by his hard flat shots. If everybody gets knocked out early like Kevin Anderson's USO grandslam run, then maybe rublev will get lucky.

This guy is nothing special. It's not about hitting the ball hard (a la Jerzy Jancovicz). The better players have a much more smooth relaxed style. You don't hear Fed grunt and slam the ball on his groundies, and djokovic is more of a medium paced guy with just excellent defense and ball placement. Rublev does well during this tournament and you all jump on his band wagon. How about letting someone prove you by 1 solid year of constant results.
I couldn't have said it better.
 

TennisIcon

New User
I'll believe Rublev can win slams when he starts beating legitimately threatening opponents at any of the tournaments he's in. So far he's made use of good draws. I think it's way too early to claim that he'll win slams when he's never made a really good run at any so far. His best run was the quarter-finals at USO this year and a lot has already been said about how weak the field was this year.

I'll wait to see what happens next year but a few 250s and 500's do not make a slam winner. Maybe if he wins Paris I'll feel differently. I will say he's made some legitimate improvements in his game and if he keeps on steadily improving it will be really interesting to see where his game goes from here.

A lot of people want to compare his run to Medvedev's last year but objectively Medvedev's run was better and much more impressive.
 

3loudboys

Hall of Fame
Rublev wins Wien with a pair of 4's - good final for me as Sonego made a real fist of it - Djoker take note. Thats 5 titles for the year.

 

Clay lover

Hall of Fame
I also recall a poster saying that his serve +1 is pretty good. Throughout this week I observed the same. His serve is pretty good at inducing weak returns and his +1 forehand finds good angles. Even if he doesn't finish it off with the +1 it's normally forceful enough to set up a winner on the next shot.
 

BumElbow

Rookie
Head must be crying that Rublev is playing with a Gravity and is not under contract. They could be selling a lot of racquets! Rublev's style is bashing the ball especially on the forehand. He is not the physically biggest or strongest by any means. But, he is hungry and motivated. He is certainly a contender. I am looking forward to see what he can do at the upcoming Aussie open. Is he physically strong enough to win several consecutive 5 set matches? That's the question that needs to be answered.
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
Rublev grunts and tries to go all out on every ball, but you can't fernando gonzalez the ball and think that you'll get GS results. You'll get Fernando Gonzalez results. But like Rublev, once you get into the late stages of a slam, the really good players don't care how hard you grunt or try to rocket the ball. They have tactics that will disjoint your game and throw you off. And frankly, guys like Djokovic aren't really bothered by his hard flat shots.
Rublev is not a flat-ball hitter unlike someone like Medvedev as you can see from the chart below showing average RPM on FH and BH. He is almost identical to Djokovic who I believe has won a few Slams in his day. If anything, he hits flat when he takes the ball on the rise like Novak and when he stands back on other shots, he hits with even higher RPM than the average RPM shown. Also these numbers are from a couple of years ago and I get the feeling he is stronger and hitting bigger now. I think he is a threat to win Slams someday as he seeks to be motivated to win all the tournaments he can and has good intensity without too many mental lapses. He might need one or two years though to develop further, get some big wins over the top 3 of Nadal/Djokivic/Thiem and get the inner self-belief needed to win Slams.
 

clout

Hall of Fame
I'd hold my horses on this one. His game is quite one-dimensional as he doesn't really have a plan B if plan A isn't working that day, and it's also worth noting that all of his career titles so far have been at the 250/500 level (the "lowest" level of events on the ATP Tour). He has yet to make it past the quarterfinals at any 1000 event or greater, so let's wait and see here.

He is only 23 though so he certainly has both age and time well in his favour.
 
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socallefty

Hall of Fame
This chart is so stupid. Wawrinka and Gasquet hit more top spin than Nadal?

I don't need a chart to see what I can see. Rublev isn't known for spin, he hits the ball pretty flat.
I bet you don’t believe in a round earth, evolution and global warming either. You can believe these measurements actually made at tournaments or your lying eyes. I bet you haven’t even watched these players in person and are basing your ‘judgment’ by watching tennis on TV. If you watch them live in person from close range, you would absolutely believe these measurements.

You might want to read this article.

 

Clay lover

Hall of Fame
This chart is so stupid. Wawrinka and Gasquet hit more top spin than Nadal?

I don't need a chart to see what I can see. Rublev isn't known for spin, he hits the ball pretty flat.
No, it indicates that Gasquet and Wawrinka hit with more topspin than Nadal *on the backhand*, as is often the case with most 1HBHs
 
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stingstang

Professional
Jerzy Jancovicz was one of the most over hyped modern players. But he did prove himself by beating Djokovic, Nadal and maybe even murray all in one tournament. But where is he now? A phantom. People need to pare down their expectations because it reminds me of a 15 year old kid who dates some girl then thinks that that girl will be his wife for 80 years.
He ain’t janowizc. Worst case scenario for Rublev is a few big matches go against him, he loses intensity/confidence whatever, drops to 10-20 and stays there perpetually. Mindless ball bashing keeps him there. I don’t see that happening but we’ll see.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Lol. The earth is round. That is a fact. We're talking about opinions. That's where you're wrong. If you can't even execute a simple analogy and misstep it. Well then there's no hope in even conversing with you.

I bet you don’t believe in a round earth, evolution and global warming either. You can believe these measurements actually made at tournaments or your lying eyes. I bet you haven’t even watched these players in person and are basing your ‘judgment’ by watching tennis on TV. If you watch them live in person from close range, you would absolutely believe these measurements.

You might want to read this article.

 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
Yes, you can't hit like that for the span of your career. You can do that maybe 3-4 years and after that you get burnt out, wear down or get injured. So he needs to make a slam within that period of change his whole game around and the only thing he knows is his power game. In that honeymoon period of hitting like a maniac, I don't think Djokovic or Nadal really fear that type of hitting. I think it will lead to unforced errors when you hit against the best. Also they don't allow you to take full shots like that. Rublev is not very impressive. Sinner is much more steady, I like his game way more. And I think he can build his game more around his tools. Rublev's answer to build on his game is what? Hit harder than now?


He ain’t janowizc. Worst case scenario for Rublev is a few big matches go against him, he loses intensity/confidence whatever, drops to 10-20 and stays there perpetually. Mindless ball bashing keeps him there. I don’t see that happening but we’ll see.
 

cork_screw

Hall of Fame
And what did I say about Rublev vs the top 10 players? Just as I said, and is a foreshadowing to a "told you so."

This guy tries to hit it hard and grunts but you can't win against the best by just this mindless hitting. In London he's doing just as I imagined he would compete against the top elite players of the world. You might be able to beat Zverev, but that's because Zverev has no mental control. And double faults like crazy.
 
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