Rune will never win a slam

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Can't believe the usual flavour-of-the-month hype-job susceptible Talk Tennis users who are actually touting this guy up to be a future Slam winner.

Rune's complete mental collapse against Djokovic already tells me everything I need to know; Rune will never win a Slam. Probably won't even win another Masters before his career is done.

Furthermore, he has no weapons in his arsenal, and he's too short and too lightweight to do any real damage on the court. His backhand is perhaps a bit above average, but laughable compared to the real heavy hitters on the tour.

I foresee a career path similar to Flilippo Volandri for him; marginal success on clay, nil elsewhere.
 
I feel this is not the bold call you think it is. Rune will never get a slam I agree. I’m unsure of people here who think he could be a slam champ?
 
The guy is really good when he enters his zone, but it's rare and does not last long. He needs to learn how to play when he is not feeling the ball well and to suffer to win points.

He and Shelton look the same to me. Lots of potential and talent, but very little discipline to make it shine on court.
 
I think it's still pretty early days to make that call, he is still only 21. He's elite on clay, you saw it at RG when he pushed Zverev to the limits. I see no reason why he's not going to be a title contender in RG at least for the years to come
 
weakera said:
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Yet again, the people who foolishly bought the propaganda of the little Danish boy look stupid, but I doubt they will ever learn. The delusional people will still believe that he is going to part of some Big Three with players who are far more talented than he is.

The little Danish boy is a Wawrinka-created fad. If Wawrinka took his match points at the Paris Masters, we wouldn’t be hearing about this overrated fraud.
 
He's still young and could turn things around in terms of his mentality on and off the court, but I've always been disappointed in his return numbers. They're not quite elite level and I'm not sure how likely they are to go up much from here. I think he'll get back to the top 10 and have some better deep slam runs, and he may even snatch one at some point, but don't think he'll ever be a dominant number one or anything.
 
mike danny said:
He'll probably grab one in the future, but he doesn't seem like the next great player.

And before anyone brings up Federer at 21, guy defeated Pete Sampras on Center Court, while Rune managed under 10 games against 37 year old Djokovic.
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Better comparison than Federer is to Sinner at this time 18 months or so ago. Comparing to Federer is setting the bar way too high.

You could compare Rune to Sinner a year ago, if you like, though Sinner was definitely improving by then - but he was almost 22, whereas Rune only turned 21 recently. Sure, Sinner had done some things much better than Rune did today - such as winning the first two sets against Djokovic at Wimbledon 2022. But until Wimbledon 2023, Sinner also hadn't made a slam semi (like Rune now) and he hadn't won a Masters (which Rune has). Sinner has improved a lot in the last 12 months and now looks likely to become a top player. It's possible that Rune might follow that trajectory. I'm not saying it's likely.
 
Rune repeatedly wets the bed in the biggest matches. Hasn’t won a single big slam match yet. Just does not have what it takes.
 
helterskelter said:
Better comparison than Federer is to Sinner at this time 18 months or so ago. Comparing to Federer is setting the bar way too high.

You could compare Rune to Sinner a year ago, if you like, though Sinner was definitely improving by then - but he was almost 22, whereas Rune only turned 21 recently. Sure, Sinner had done some things much better than Rune did today - such as winning the first two sets against Djokovic at Wimbledon 2022. But until Wimbledon 2023, Sinner also hadn't made a slam semi (like Rune now) and he hadn't won a Masters (which Rune has). Sinner has improved a lot in the last 12 months and now looks likely to become a top player. It's possible that Rune might follow that trajectory. I'm not saying it's likely.
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Sure, but I was comparing him to 20-21 year old Fed who was also a headcase. But still a better and more talented player than current Rune.
 
GRASScaraz said:
Can't believe the usual flavour-of-the-month hype-job susceptible Talk Tennis users who are actually touting this guy up to be a future Slam winner.

Rune's complete mental collapse against Djokovic already tells me everything I need to know; Rune will never win a Slam. Probably won't even win another Masters before his career is done.

Furthermore, he has no weapons in his arsenal, and he's too short and too lightweight to do any real damage on the court. His backhand is perhaps a bit above average, but laughable compared to the real heavy hitters on the tour.

I foresee a career path similar to Flilippo Volandri for him; marginal success on clay, nil elsewhere.
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We’re calling 6’2” guys short now.
 
weakera said:
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Gross stat reported by Gross.
CHillTennis said:
Fed won a slam at the age of 21.
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Fed was 21 and 11 months old (almost 22) when he won his first Slam. Rune is 21 years and 2 months and a half old. So bad analogy.

Regardless, 19 years old Federer had beaten Sampras at W 2001, while Rune has never beaten Djokovic or Nadal in Slams. I think at this point it's obvious comparing Rune with Federer is ridiculous.
 
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Technology Ruined Tennis said:
I don't think people realize how dire the ATP will be post-Joker. Alcaraz, by far the best of the bunch, is still well below Big 3 level.

40 slams in a decade. Alcaraz and Sinner won't win more than half. Lots of trophies for the sea of mediocre players below them.
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I think Alcaraz is up there with the best of Big 3. Sinner is close to his level. Alcaraz has more athletic explosiveness, and can volley better than any of Big 3.
 
Quaichang said:
We’re calling 6’2” guys short now.
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he's 6'2"? shoot i thought he was like 5'10" or something honestly. he has borna coric syndrome, a relatively tall guy who plays like he's 5'8", and seems to need tremendous energy to produce power. clay will be his best surface.
 
Technology Ruined Tennis said:
I don't think people realize how dire the ATP will be post-Joker. Alcaraz, by far the best of the bunch, is still well below Big 3 level.

40 slams in a decade. Alcaraz and Sinner won't win more than half. Lots of trophies for the sea of mediocre players below them.
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Alcaraz will win 25-30. Sinner will win 15-20. Rest will win 5. This is before they all turn 35.
 
GRASScaraz said:
Can't believe the usual flavour-of-the-month hype-job susceptible Talk Tennis users who are actually touting this guy up to be a future Slam winner.

Rune's complete mental collapse against Djokovic already tells me everything I need to know; Rune will never win a Slam. Probably won't even win another Masters before his career is done.

Furthermore, he has no weapons in his arsenal, and he's too short and too lightweight to do any real damage on the court. His backhand is perhaps a bit above average, but laughable compared to the real heavy hitters on the tour.

I foresee a career path similar to Flilippo Volandri for him; marginal success on clay, nil elsewhere.
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This will age poorly when Rune becomes part of the new Big Three
 
It has been said before, but Rune needs to mature and find himself a proper team. This bizarre on/off thing with PM needs to stop once and for all. Right now I don’t see him going anywhere, he looks completely lost and out of it. If he’s not careful he might end up like Shapovalov.
 
GRASScaraz said:
Can't believe the usual flavour-of-the-month hype-job susceptible Talk Tennis users who are actually touting this guy up to be a future Slam winner.

Rune's complete mental collapse against Djokovic already tells me everything I need to know; Rune will never win a Slam. Probably won't even win another Masters before his career is done.

Furthermore, he has no weapons in his arsenal, and he's too short and too lightweight to do any real damage on the court. His backhand is perhaps a bit above average, but laughable compared to the real heavy hitters on the tour.

I foresee a career path similar to Flilippo Volandri for him; marginal success on clay, nil elsewhere.
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Wow, that was fast

GRASScaraz said:
Rune because he has the most attacking all court game besides Alcaraz
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I have to say, whether rightly or wrongly, I’m still drinking the Rune Koolaid. The guy is an entertainment machine.

Not reading much into the Wimbledon result but I think the broader point is well made that he has stagnated in the same 12 month window where Alcaraz has consolidated his major winning credentials and SinnerGOAT has basically gone nuclear and become the default number one. Rune looks a fair way off the pace for a guy who originally seemed more like a young phenom in the Alcaraz mold.

The most interested thing is that a lot of Djokovic fans originally picked Rune as the guy who appealed to them most of the Alcatraz / Sinner / Rune trinity but a lot of those fans have since jumped ship or gone dark.
 
Rune has grown 2 inches in the last 18 months. He used to have to height fraud just like Carlitos, but he’s actually tall now. He just needs to adjust to his longer frame.
 
Incognito said:
He hasn’t made any progress at all, game-wise.
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I would argue his game is much worse now than a year ago and his mental approach show absolutelly no confidence.
It felt like yesterday he wasn't even there, this morning on X he commented he felt "like a shadow" which is the perfect description of the night.

My impression is that he got a big wake up call exactly one year ago when Alcaraz destroyed him on the centre court at Wimbledon... Rune tried for a year to step up his game, go bigger, much bigger with terrible results. This week at Wimbledon he looked to me like trying to go back to original grinding Rune.. made to the 4th round but we all saw what happened yesterday.

For sure he's in a bad bad place right now... difficult to see how he can get out of it and, probably realize he's going to be a supporting actor and occasional surprise in the tennis world moving forward.
 
He has shown that he has the raw talent that is needed but he hasn‘t shown that he is able to work on it enough to make the most of his potential. He‘s now kind of worse than a year ago, maybe because he‘s wondering why he‘s not getting the results he‘s looking for. But he would actually need to work really hard now and be willing to change things to get closer to Sinncaraz. He still often looks kind of clueless on court, with some random shot selection and not looking like he has a clear game plan and/or is able to play according to one. One big issue imo is also that he tends to hit his shots either with too little or too much on it, while he‘s missing the kind of most important in between ones.
 
Agreed.

The point, is that he has won some tournaments and gotten far in other draws without much discipline, just because his raw talent has emerged at the right times. Yet, the lesson he's learned is that that's just enough to be on the top, which is not true. On the contrary, Alcaraz had to learn the hard way to battle the nerves after his own cramps defeated him last year in RG. Or Sinner, who has had to work on some of the weaknesses of his game like net play and serve.
 
GRASScaraz said:
Can't believe the usual flavour-of-the-month hype-job susceptible Talk Tennis users who are actually touting this guy up to be a future Slam winner.

Rune's complete mental collapse against Djokovic already tells me everything I need to know; Rune will never win a Slam. Probably won't even win another Masters before his career is done.

Furthermore, he has no weapons in his arsenal, and he's too short and too lightweight to do any real damage on the court. His backhand is perhaps a bit above average, but laughable compared to the real heavy hitters on the tour.

I foresee a career path similar to Flilippo Volandri for him; marginal success on clay, nil elsewhere.
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It's possible that he still has a better chance than Zverev, because he is younger than him...

However, Zverev's chances are decreasing,
and it's getting worse...
 
Rune has the talent to win a Slam. He has regressed in the last year, but the potential is there. Now, he is far away from the level of Sinner - Alcaraz, that will likely volture most of the slams for the foreseeable future but I think he has the potential to win a few Slams. He is very young, let's see. I think he could win a couple of Slams in the next 5 years.
 
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