Ruud is similar to Ferrer

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When i was watching him, he looks exactly like Ferrer, even up to the subtle movements. They are generic albeit extremely consistent baseliners with no major variety or weapon. He appears to have copied Ferrer's gamestyle with slightly more pop on the serve and FH, because he is 6'1 and taller than Ferrer. Ferrer would've been worse scoreline.

Djokovic had no trouble with Ferrer during his prime.
 
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Good observation. Can't disagree

Ferrer also had a miserable record against the Big 3 (0 wins against Federer) and Rudd has yet to take a set off of the Big 3 (although he was still up and coming against Federer)
 
Halba said:
When i was watching him, he looks exactly like Ferrer, even up to the subtle movements. They are generic albeit extremely consistent baseliners with no major variety or weapon.

Djokovic had no trouble with Ferrer during his prime.
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Ruud has a better serve but Ferrer had at least a good a FH despite being much smaller. Ferrer had a much better return, probably one of the best returns in the game at his peak.

Also, Ferrer had 100x more heart and fight— he got absolutely everything out of his talent.

aus89 said:
truly a profound, groundbreaking comparison that no-one has ever made before... Ferrer also didn't make 3 Slam finals...
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Ferrer lost to Djokovic three times in the semi finals and once to Nadal and once to Murray. He also likes seven times in the quarterfinals to these three.

interesting that Federer never got him in his draws
 
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ghostofMecir said:
Ferrer lost to Djokovic three times in the semi finals and once to Nadal and once to Murray. He also likes seven times in the quarterfinals to these three.

interesting that Federer never got him in his draws
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that's true but he was also much older when he was doing that. He had only gotten to a QF at Ruud's age I think.
 
BH motion and their little steps are nearly identical. Ruud looks much smaller on court than he really is because his strokes are so compact, whereas the opposite is true for Djoker.
 
aus89 said:
that's true but he was also much older when he was doing that. He had only gotten to a QF at Ruud's age I think.
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Everyone talks about 2004-2007, but players like Ferrer couldn’t do anything during this time. The blossom later. Also, you have someone like Feliciano Lopez, who couldn’t string together to wins in a row during that time. But then did much better during the so-called strong era.
 
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ghostofMecir said:
Everyone talks about 2004-2007, but players like Ferrer couldn’t do anything during this time. The blossom later. Also, you have someone like Fernando Lopez, who couldn’t string together to wins in a row during that time. But then did much better during the so-called strong era.
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its still unfair to say Ferrer's late bloomer career has any relevance to Ruud's who is already a three time slam finalist at 24 because they have some vague similarities in game style... there's nothing to say Ruud won't get better than he is now - I'd say it's likely given he is one of the most committed, hardworking players who doesn't get caught up in **** like most of the others
 
Both play with little variation, same pattern of shots, both very solid baseliners with great forehands and solid backhands with great consistency.
Ruud has more power (mainly becausd he's bigger) but Ferrer was a better returner and mover.
So far I think Ferrer has a higher peak, just unlucky to play Peak Rafa but Ruud has still time to improve.
 
I think Ferrer could probably manage to actually win some slams today. While Ruud probably never will. Wouldn't totally write Ferrer off if he was at his peak beating this Older Djokovic either. Whereas in Ruud's case, you know hes just a slam final walkover
 
Tony48 said:
Good observation. Can't disagree

Ferrer also had a miserable record against the Big 3 (0 wins against Federer) and Rudd has yet to take a set off of the Big 3 (although he was still up and coming against Federer)
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Federer was 38 when rudd played him on his worst surface
 
Halba said:
When i was watching him, he looks exactly like Ferrer, even up to the subtle movements. They are generic albeit extremely consistent baseliners with no major variety or weapon. He appears to have copied Ferrer's gamestyle with slightly more pop on the serve and FH, because he is 6'1 and taller than Ferrer. Ferrer would've been worse scoreline.

Djokovic had no trouble with Ferrer during his prime.
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I was thinking exactly this during the match. I watched Djokovic maul Ferrer up close at the Australian Open in 2013 and it was hard to look at. Ferrer did nothing wrong but Djokovic just had him outgunned in every dimension of the game. Ruud did better than I hoped yesterday. If he'd been more clinical he had the first set in the bag - then who knows.
 
Unfortunately Ruud doesn't have the movement, return of serve and mental strength of Ferrer.
Ferrer maximized what he had, while Ruud still has a ways to go.
 
Ferrer had no boom in his game. Ruud's forehand is huge. And his serve is a lot better, both in terms of pace and placement.

Ferrer had a better backhand, better consistency and moved better.
 
junior74 said:
Ferrer had no boom in his game. Ruud's forehand is huge. And his serve is a lot better, both in terms of pace and placement.

Ferrer had a better backhand, better consistency and moved better.
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The way Ruud played in Rome semi for first two set or against Rune or Zverev in RG, his peak is clearly better on clay but for some reason his bh is even less than average, how can he win big on clay with that bh.
He is double hander, how could his and Berr bh is so weak.
They both make Roddick BH as great
 
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aus89 said:
truly a profound, groundbreaking comparison that no-one has ever made before... Ferrer also didn't make 3 Slam finals...
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Ferrer would probably have made many more than three grand slam finals in this era.

He had "the big-4 wall" in every Grand Slam back then.

He lost 3 SF and 2 QF against Djokovic (in AO and USO)

He lost 1 SF and 3 QF against Murray (in AO, RG and WIM)

He lost 1 F, 1 SF and 2 QF against Nadal all in RG.

He would probably play several Grand Slam finals against Djokovic in this era.
 
Dominic & Andrey said:
Damn, after Roddick, now Daveed is letting down Fed fans !
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Yes, it seems Nadal is the only one that doesn't surrender to the "political correctness pressure".

Around 2 years ago, another Spanish interviewer was commenting with him that the lack of great young players was because today's level is much higher, both technically and physically.

But Nadal said to him that it wasn't true at all, that the level today wasn't higher at all than when he entered the tour with 17-18 years old.

I must confess that I like this facet of Nadal very much!

He seems to not care about what "the media" consider "a good answer", and I appreciate that a lot.
 
aus89 said:
its still unfair to say Ferrer's late bloomer career has any relevance to Ruud's who is already a three time slam finalist at 24 because they have some vague similarities in game style... there's nothing to say Ruud won't get better than he is now - I'd say it's likely given he is one of the most committed, hardworking players who doesn't get caught up in **** like most of the others
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Maybe when Djokodal are 40 he'll finally win a set against them.
 
Halba said:
Djokovic had no trouble with Ferrer during his prime.
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H2H:

Fed-Ferrer 17-0

Djoker-Ferrer 16-5
Rafa-Ferrer 26-6

What it tells us?

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Ferrer's era was deeper.
Let's not forget Ferrer had to consistently face peak Big 4, Wawrinka, Tsonga, Soderling, Monfis, Berdych, Delpo, Nishikori, Cilic, Verdasco, and still made it to one slam final. Early in his career he was up against Agassi, Coria, Nalbandian, and others
He did win 27 titles, including ATP 250, 500 and a 1000 Masters in Paris.
Ferrer's BH and foot speed are better than Ruud's. Ruud would be lucky to make a slam qtr final during Ferrer's period.
 
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