Sampras - I've never seen anything like Nadal

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I guess that answers the question about whether Sampras would stand a chance. Mostly likely, he will be outclassed. As he said, Nadal is looking possibly at 18-20 majors. Insane!
 

Thriller

Hall of Fame
Interesting to hear Sampras' views after seeing Rafa live for the first time and you do have to see Rafa live IMO to truly appreciate his genius. It doesn't always come across as well on TV, well at least it doesn't to those viewers who haven't a clue about what makes a player talented.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Did Sampras miss the 2011 season when people were saying Djokovic was playing from another planet ?
 

mightyrick

Legend
I guess that answers the question about whether Sampras would stand a chance.
I'm not so sure about that.

There are a lot of things that Federer does better than Sampras. But those Federer is better at don't work against Nadal.

Sampras did some things better than Federer. Sampras possessed a far better serve. His approach shots were much better. Sampras was a much better volleyer. Comparing an all-court player like Federer (which means he does everything moderately) to a S&V player like Sampras (which means his serve and volley and approach shots are superb) is comparing apples and oranges.

I saw Nadal lose several points on S&V when Federer could actually hit an effective wide serve. The problem is... Federer's slice serve is "okay" at best. Also, his volleying is average.

Sampras used to hit those serves like it was nothing. If the returner didn't shank the ball, it was always a short-sitter.

Oh, and go look at tape of what happened to guys who stood 10 feet behind the baseline on Sampras. The outcome wasn't pretty for those returners.
 
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I'm not so sure about that.

There are a lot of things that Federer does better than Sampras. But those Federer is better at don't work against Nadal.

Sampras did some things better than Federer. Sampras possessed a far better serve. His approach shots were much better. Sampras was a much better volleyer. Comparing an all-court player like Federer (which means he does everything moderately) to a S&V player like Sampras (which means his serve and volley and approach shots are superb) is comparing apples and oranges.

I saw Nadal lose several points on S&V when Federer could actually hit an effective wide serve. The problem is... Federer's slice serve is "okay" at best. Also, his volleying is average.

Sampras used to hit those serves like it was nothing. If the returner didn't shank the ball, it was always a short-sitter.

Oh, and go look at tape of what happened to guys who stood 10 feet behind the baseline on Sampras. The outcome wasn't pretty for those returners.
I have seen Sampras play live for a decade at Wimbledon, I used to skip school with my friends to watch him every year. I am a massive fan of his. I know first hand what he is all about.

Sorry, I just don't see him beating Nadal. I see him trying, but getting outclassed. You can't beat Nadal with just serving, he will grind you down into tomorrow, and he would have a field day with Sampras with he gets him in a rally. Nadal to win 8 out of 10 matches.
 

ScottleeSV

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Rather than getting tat for tit, it's easier to just label them by surfaces. Rafa is clearly the superior clay courter whereas Fed is way out in front on grass and hard. Two totally different tennis players.

(Slams)
Rafa 8-1 Fed (clay)
Rafa 4-9 Fed (hard)
Rafa 2-7 Fed (grass)
Fixed it for you.
 

Goosehead

Legend
is a good job barry cowan (commentates on skysports) was not being interviewed because he would say after whatever match he happened to be watching "he has taken tennis up a notch to a whole new level."..even if he had been watching marcos bagdahtis sneak an unlikely win..:neutral:

and mark petchey would say..OH MY WORD...WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT.. :neutral:
 

TheRed

Hall of Fame
I'm not so sure about that.

There are a lot of things that Federer does better than Sampras. But those Federer is better at don't work against Nadal.

Sampras did some things better than Federer. Sampras possessed a far better serve. His approach shots were much better. Sampras was a much better volleyer. Comparing an all-court player like Federer (which means he does everything moderately) to a S&V player like Sampras (which means his serve and volley and approach shots are superb) is comparing apples and oranges.

I saw Nadal lose several points on S&V when Federer could actually hit an effective wide serve. The problem is... Federer's slice serve is "okay" at best. Also, his volleying is average.

Sampras used to hit those serves like it was nothing. If the returner didn't shank the ball, it was always a short-sitter.

Oh, and go look at tape of what happened to guys who stood 10 feet behind the baseline on Sampras. The outcome wasn't pretty for those returners.
Your basic premise about them being different players may be correct but Fed is not an all-court player and Sampras was not a serve a volleyer. Fed is a baseliner that looks nice volleying and Sampras was an all court player that serve and volleyed a lot on faster courts.
We will never know how well Sampras would have played Nadal but we do know he would not play to Nadal's pace and style, especially on anything but clay.
 
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You basic premise about them being different players may be correct but Fed is not an all-court player and Sampras was not a serve a volleyer. Fed is a baseliner that looks nice volleying and Sampras was an all court player that serve and volleyed a lot on faster courts.
We will never know how well Sampras would have played Nadal but we do know he would not play to Nadal's pace and style, especially on anything but clay.
quoted for truth.
 

TonyB

Hall of Fame
I guess that answers the question about whether Sampras would stand a chance. Mostly likely, he will be outclassed. As he said, Nadal is looking possibly at 18-20 majors. Insane!

Hahahaha! He absolutely did NOT say that. He said maybe 17 or 18 majors.

Nice try.
 
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Hahahaha! He absolutely did NOT say that. He said maybe 17 or 18 majors.

Nice try.
haha! I think he is just being nice to Roger.

Inside I am sure he is thinking this guy gets 20. :twisted:
 

Tennis_Sud

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Why Sampras said that although Nadal did not care to mention him , when asked after match interview and Jim mensioned that Sampras is here watching the match !!!
 

TheNatural

G.O.A.T.
Rafa is the show.

"I think he's incredible" Sampras told BBC Sport. "I saw him play live for the first time on Friday night and the movement he has is incredible"

"He's able to adjust his shots on the run. I've never seen anything like it."

"To see him play - he hits a very heavy ball, serves pretty well, he does everything," said the seven-time Wimbledon champion, who will present the trophy to the winner on Sunday, 20 years on from the first of his two Australian victories.

"He's mentally tough - he has the whole package."

"He's not looking at 14, he's looking beyond," said Sampras.

"Realistically, he could very well get 17, 18 majors when it's all said and done. He's a credit to the sport. I'm a fan."
 
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Rafa is the show.

"I think he's incredible" Sampras told BBC Sport. "I saw him play live for the first time on Friday night and the movement he has is incredible"

"He's able to adjust his shots on the run. I've never seen anything like it."

"To see him play - he hits a very heavy ball, serves pretty well, he does everything," said the seven-time Wimbledon champion, who will present the trophy to the winner on Sunday, 20 years on from the first of his two Australian victories.

"He's mentally tough - he has the whole package."

"He's not looking at 14, he's looking beyond," said Sampras.

"Realistically, he could very well get 17, 18 majors when it's all said and done. He's a credit to the sport. I'm a fan."
You should make that your new signature. :)
 

mental midget

Hall of Fame
one thing pete did well was close on the net and put volleys away. federer has a tendency to let the ball drop and try to feather it, rather than shut it down and punch it away from a higher position over the net.

people who watched pete a lot might remember how on the forehand side in particular, he would punch through and even close the racket face to drive it, almost like a player with a continental grip trying to impart some topspin.

fed has great touch but i think at times it's to his detriment--needs a little more of the 'this ends now' mindset when it comes to attacking that first volley.
 

Praetorian

Professional
I haven't seen anything like...

Laver
Gonzalez
Borg
McEnroe
Connors
Lendl
Edberg
Becker
Ivonesivic
Agassi
Sampras
Federer
Roddick
Nadal
Murray
Djokovic
etc
etc

Because if any of those busters I mentioned is just like everyone else, then everyone else would have won too...
 
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