San Francisco toxic air quality

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
Please elaborate on the inner-workings of this great international conspiracy of respected scientist from nearly every country in the world. Have you been to their secret meetings, undoubtedly held in California? It is hard to tell if you are trolling, or truly as lost as you seem.

These are mostly paid hacks with fake degrees and I can find you many real scientist who say otherwise !!!
Of course many won’t be American because that is not what pays the grants
You are an interesting case study, and maybe a psychiatrist should be gifted with your thoughts in a formal setting. You seem very angry, and only trusting of far-fetched conspiracy theories, a mafia boss once convicted of murders, and perhaps the sweaty men you continually think about grappling with in gyms.

For some reason, this film comes to mind:
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
Plenty of women grapple too lol

Just a hobby for me ...you think I want to take a stroll in the woods or play chess
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
The Ice core samples taken by European real scientist that drilled 4 miles plus deep to study hundreds of millions of years of history proves my point that co2 spikes occur many hundreds of yrs after temp hikes
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
If your searching for gold would you report rocks or keep searching? Its bias data. There is some truth to it though.
Funny how it shifted from GW to climate change ???
The 70s had a cooling cycle and i think the 1970s occurred after the IR ???
Also cold cycles in the 40s

You can see how some corrupt millionaires invested a fortune into all these govt aided solar companies that went eventually went bankrupt , but after they became billionaires
 
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Chadalina

Guest
You can see how some corrupt millionaires invested a fortune into all these govt aided solar companies that went eventually went bankrupt , but after they became billionaires
Its not so bad, similar to the military, we are paying our own people for service. Id much rather our money go to soldiers and scientists (whom i dont agree with) than non americans.

Obama created many gov jobs, i didnt like him, but he took people off social services and gave them jobs. Meaningless ones, but gave them self respect. Its not that much of a loss and benefits your people. Would have to see how much we are paying for research that is common sense.
 

Azure

Legend
While we can see what pollution is doing and we can see ice melting etc, I think even scientists are not absolutely really sure about warming of the planet in general. The earth is a billion years old and we are talking about measurable data only a couple of hundred years. That's extremely limited data in any statistical analysis. Several rivers dried up throughout the history of our planet without man's intervention. We do see lack of rains in some areas, floods in others etc. Is it entirely due to man alone?
 
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Chadalina

Guest
While we can see what pollution is doing and we can see ice melting etc, I think even scientists are not absolutely really sure about warming of the planet in general. The earth is a billion years old and we are talking about measurable data only a couple of hundred years. That's extremely limited data in any statistical analysis. Several rivers dried up throughout the history of our planet without man's intervention. We do see lack of rains in some areas, floods in others etc. Is it entirely due to man alone?
Our planets wounds dont matter as much as we think, its like a paper cut in the space of time.

This is about us surviving and how we elongate it. They dont really care about the earth, only how it can continue to benefit. Stealing its resources then complaining about the result
 
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Chadalina

Guest
While we can see what pollution is doing and we can see ice melting etc
Maybe thats part of the plan, creating conflicts(50% is better than none). Some say we inflate war to create defense spending, while doing the same with the "green". Modus operandi = latin mode of operating

 

Azure

Legend
Maybe thats part of the plan, creating conflicts(50% is better than none). Some say we inflate war to create defense spending, while doing the same with the "green". Modus operandi

Oh but wars are needed for the economy to go round and round. If everyone is satiated and there's no buying, how will the economy run, really?
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
Maybe thats part of the plan, creating conflicts(50% is better than none). Some say we inflate war to create defense spending, while doing the same with the "green". Modus operandi = latin mode of operating

No more stupid ME Wars to fund the military contract machine !!!!
 
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Genious at Work

Hall of Fame
The Ice core samples taken by European real scientist that drilled 4 miles plus deep to study hundreds of millions of years of history proves my point that co2 spikes occur many hundreds of yrs after temp hikes
Maybe there is something a little different this time around vs all those other times hundreds of years ago? Can you think of anything?

Anyone who doesn't realize laying a blanket of gasses that reflect heat might actually be responsible for temperature increases is kind of a moron, sorry. Again, I'm not going to quantify how much of Global Warming is due to human emissions and how much of it is due to natural variance. But when you see huge chunks of ice break off antarctica, glaciers disappearning, etc in the span of just a few decades, it kind of makes you think.

Sure, some of it has been politicized and used for profit by some unscrupulous people, but that doesn't make the problem less real. And the same kind of politicization (only much worse) is taking place on the other side of the fence, with multibillion dollar companies that benefit from activities that cause Global Warming throwing mud into the subject.

My best advice is to read the data available yourself and make an educated (if you can) choice on what you believe is truly happening. Don't rely on the Sean Hannitys and Michael Savages of the world to think for you.

But let's say that Global Warming is really not taking place for the sake of argument. Then, all those activities we want to curb that we claim are causing Global Warming should be curbed anyway, because they cause pollution too. Unless you claim pollution is make believe also, in which case you need a brain transplant.
 

Genious at Work

Hall of Fame
Funny how it shifted from GW to climate change ???
The 70s had a cooling cycle and i think the 1970s occurred after the IR ???
Also cold cycles in the 40s

You can see how some corrupt millionaires invested a fortune into all these govt aided solar companies that went eventually went bankrupt , but after they became billionaires
Yeah, as opposed to the corrupt billionaires in the oil industry, tobacco industry, and others? :D

Oh, wait. I remember now. Oil Industry Tycoons and Tobacco Fortune heiresses are good folk, it's only those pesky Silicon Valley scoundrels we need to be aware of.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Maybe there is something a little different this time around vs all those other times hundreds of years ago? Can you think of anything?

Anyone who doesn't realize laying a blanket of gasses that reflect heat might actually be responsible for temperature increases is kind of a moron, sorry. Again, I'm not going to quantify how much of Global Warming is due to human emissions and how much of it is due to natural variance. But when you see huge chunks of ice break off antarctica, glaciers disappearning, etc in the span of just a few decades, it kind of makes you think.

Sure, some of it has been politicized and used for profit by some unscrupulous people, but that doesn't make the problem less real. And the same kind of politicization (only much worse) is taking place on the other side of the fence, with multibillion dollar companies that benefit from activities that cause Global Warming throwing mud into the subject.

My best advice is to read the data available yourself and make an educated (if you can) choice on what you believe is truly happening. Don't rely on the Sean Hannitys and Michael Savages of the world to think for you.

But let's say that Global Warming is really not taking place for the sake of argument. Then, all those activities we want to curb that we claim are causing Global Warming should be curbed anyway, because they cause pollution too. Unless you claim pollution is make believe also, in which case you need a brain transplant.
Stop, you're making way too much sense.
 

Genious at Work

Hall of Fame
Nobody more gullible than Libs
Zero thought process of any kind which is why they always vote in massive blocks
You seem to be an assiduous listener of Michael Savage, because you have parrotted about everything he ever says. The thing with Michael Savage is that he is a great entertainer, but you should take everything that he says with a grain of salt. Meaning that sometimes he takes things to the extreme for the purpose of entertainment. I believe he is much more moderate in real life.

But seriously, man. There is scientific evidence out there that demonstrates an alarming Global Warming trend. If you had some independent thought, you would have realized long ago that 98% of scientists don't have an interest in falsifying data for self-serving interests. The occupation of a scientist is to gather and examine data and to derive conclusions based on that data, a scientist doctoring data would be like an NFL player dropping a ball before touchdown on purpose.
 

Max G.

Legend
Air quality finally better - the rain came and cleared out the smoke... but now I can't play tennis because of the rain! All together gonna have to miss almost 2 full weeks of no tennis.

Global warming sucks. Last year California had it's worst fire, this year we beat that, and I bet this won't be the last huge fire...
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Air quality finally better - the rain came and cleared out the smoke... but now I can't play tennis because of the rain! All together gonna have to miss almost 2 full weeks of no tennis.

Global warming sucks. Last year California had it's worst fire, this year we beat that, and I bet this won't be the last huge fire...
The Wind Chill temperature is -2 degrees where I am right now. I go outside with two balaclavas and long underwear. We've already had two snowstorms which is unusual so early. If I wanted to play tennis today, I couldn't. But I could tomorrow at my indoor courts. Good for cold, dark, wet.
 

Genious at Work

Hall of Fame
The Wind Chill temperature is -2 degrees where I am right now. I go outside with two balaclavas and long underwear. We've already had two snowstorms which is unusual so early. If I wanted to play tennis today, I couldn't. But I could tomorrow at my indoor courts. Good for cold, dark, wet.
This is a coincidence. It's not cold here, but I just wore the same exact outfit and nothing else when I went to a grocery store to buy some avocados.
Too bad for you gents. If you lived in a more temperate clime like Los Angeles, you would be able to go happily on to your errands dressed like The Dude.


Of course, in a few years (thanks to folks like @dgold44) everywhere else but Los Angeles will be temperate, and Los Angeles will have temperatures matching its utter level of immorality.

 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
You seem to be an assiduous listener of Michael Savage, because you have parrotted about everything he ever says. The thing with Michael Savage is that he is a great entertainer, but you should take everything that he says with a grain of salt. Meaning that sometimes he takes things to the extreme for the purpose of entertainment. I believe he is much more moderate in real life.

But seriously, man. There is scientific evidence out there that demonstrates an alarming Global Warming trend. If you had some independent thought, you would have realized long ago that 98% of scientists don't have an interest in falsifying data for self-serving interests. The occupation of a scientist is to gather and examine data and to derive conclusions based on that data, a scientist doctoring data would be like an NFL player dropping a ball before touchdown on purpose.
I listen to several people but yes I am using savage on the fake GW theory
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
Too bad for you gents. If you lived in a more temperate clime like Los Angeles, you would be able to go happily on to your errands dressed like The Dude.


Of course, in a few years (thanks to folks like @dgold44) everywhere else but Los Angeles will be temperate, and Los Angeles will have temperatures matching its utter level of immorality.

Coldest week in over a century and you have zero reasoning or logic !!!
You just mimick the dummies on tv
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
You seem to be an assiduous listener of Michael Savage, because you have parrotted about everything he ever says. The thing with Michael Savage is that he is a great entertainer, but you should take everything that he says with a grain of salt. Meaning that sometimes he takes things to the extreme for the purpose of

entertainment. I believe he is much more moderate in real life.

But seriously, man. There is scientific evidence out there that demonstrates an alarming Global Warming trend. If you had some independent thought, you would have realized long ago that 98% of scientists don't have an interest in falsifying data for self-serving interests. The occupation of a scientist is to gather and examine data and to derive conclusions based on that data, a scientist doctoring data would be like an NFL player dropping a ball before touchdown on purpose.
Most are not scientist !!! They don’t have any understanding of physics or chemistry and take a dumb down curriculum in the fake climate sciences
 

Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
AGW is a conjecture overwhelmingly backed by science. There is no science that will enable you to play tennis like Djokovic.
I don't know how anyone disputes the facts at this point. I don't buy the doomsday predictions though - it's gonna get a bit warmer in Winter and some islands might disappear. The Earth has been significantly warmer than this before and it was covered top to bottom in lush forests with more biodiversity than we have now. AGW is 100% real but we'll be fine.
 

Genious at Work

Hall of Fame
I listen to several people but yes I am using savage on the fake GW theory
Coldest week in over a century and you have zero reasoning or logic !!!
You just mimick the dummies on tv
Most are not scientist !!! They don’t have any understanding of physics or chemistry and take a dumb down curriculum in the fake climate sciences
What makes you think 98% of scientists in any discipline are "quacks"? The Global Warming Theory has been around for about 50 years, long before it became a "profitable scam."

But, again, even if you think Global Warming is a crock of crap, you must at least agree that pollution is a very real problem and that in order to control it exactly the same measures must be undertaken as those to control Global Warming. If so, what are you complaining about?
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
What makes you think 98% of scientists in any discipline are "quacks"? The Global Warming Theory has been around for about 50 years, long before it became a "profitable scam."

But, again, even if you think Global Warming is a crock of crap, you must at least agree that pollution is a very real problem and that in order to control it exactly the same measures must be undertaken as those to control Global Warming. If so, what are you complaining about?
We can agree on pollution but I remember as a tiny kid in the last 70s , that the hysteria was the next ice age
 
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