Sara Errani worst serve ever?

TJfederer16

Hall of Fame
Just watching her now against Serena and I was astounded at how terrible errani's serve is. It has to be the worst serve I've ever seen. Serving first serves at like 120kmph. No forward bodyweight transfer, dreadful take back, all in all just a technique that should be taught on how not to serve.
 
there have been much worse serves. her serve is soft and attackable but at least she is hitting a realiable kick serve.

it is certainly a weakness but not as bad as for example dementieva who had a soft AND flaky serve.
 
The worst I've seen before Errani were Emilie Loit, Aniko Kapros and Dementieva.

Sad thing about Dementieva is that she actually HAD a serve in the early 2000's and it was actually rather decent, but a shoulder injury soon changed that for the way worse.
 

BHud

Hall of Fame
It always shocks me when I see some of the serves on the WTA. How can world class athletes not be able to consistently execute a serve? Ana's toss? Errani's form? Dementieva's...well everything about her serve.

They have been on the courts for the majority of their lives...surrounded by great coaches...how can this be? Is it physical or mental?
 
It always shocks me when I see some of the serves on the WTA. How can world class athletes not be able to consistently execute a serve? Ana's toss? Errani's form? Dementieva's...well everything about her serve.

They have been on the courts for the majority of their lives...surrounded by great coaches...how can this be? Is it physical or mental?
Perhaps women's bodies aren't well suited for that particular element of the game. I mean, it's weird that in the whole history of the game only a couple of women have had what one could call a "great serve". It can't just be incompetence or bad coaching.
 

tacou

G.O.A.T.
It always shocks me when I see some of the serves on the WTA. How can world class athletes not be able to consistently execute a serve? Ana's toss? Errani's form? Dementieva's...well everything about her serve.

They have been on the courts for the majority of their lives...surrounded by great coaches...how can this be? Is it physical or mental?
I think it boils down to talent overcoming form. I'm sure Errani's terrible serve didn't matter an ounce until she went pro..heck, probably not until she became a consistent top 100 or top 50 player. Bad habits already set in by then.
 
Errani might be small but Cibulkova is even smaller and has a bigger serve so I don't see how that would make any sense.
 

THESEXPISTOL

Hall of Fame
Seriously dude? Did you took tennis today?
Errani is listed as 1.64m on WTA (that's inflated of course). What are you expecting from her? 180km/h flat serves? C'mon!

If anything, we should praise her for managing to be so competitive despite her height.
 

Minion

Hall of Fame
Errani might be small but Cibulkova is even smaller and has a bigger serve so I don't see how that would make any sense.
touche:)

But yea, Ana's toss is quite something. I cringe whenever I see that toss...I think her coaches have just given up trying to fix it:)
 

Shbeals

Rookie
Seriously dude? Did you took tennis today?
Errani is listed as 1.64m on WTA (that's inflated of course). What are you expecting from her? 180km/h flat serves? C'mon!

If anything, we should praise her for managing to be so competitive despite her height.
This. Her serve hasn't hurt her in doubles, where she I believe has been ranked number 1 before.
 

rossi46

Professional
It always shocks me when I see some of the serves on the WTA. How can world class athletes not be able to consistently execute a serve? Ana's toss? Errani's form? Dementieva's...well everything about her serve.

They have been on the courts for the majority of their lives...surrounded by great coaches...how can this be? Is it physical or mental?
Women can't play tennis. That simple.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Perhaps women's bodies aren't well suited for that particular element of the game. I mean, it's weird that in the whole history of the game only a couple of women have had what one could call a "great serve". It can't just be incompetence or bad coaching.
More than a "couple." Just for starters, over the decades: the Williams sisters, Davenport, Graf, Brenda Schultz, Dokic, Vaidisova, Pierce, Wade, Stosur, Lisicki, and many going back. A great serve is--as you know--not just power, but disguise, placement, etc. (ex. King) I think some paint the women's tour with a broad brush and look at the Dementievas or Erranis as the standard of women's serving because they are so feeble. They only define themselves.
 
More than a "couple." Just for starters, over the decades: the Williams sisters, Davenport, Graf, Brenda Schultz, Dokic, Vaidisova, Pierce, Wade, Stosur, Lisicki, and many going back. A great serve is--as you know--not just power, but disguise, placement, etc. (ex. King) I think some paint the women's tour with a broad brush and look at the Dementievas or Erranis as the standard of women's serving because they are so feeble. They only define themselves.
I would call most of those decent serves. I'm talking about the serve as a real weapon. Sure there's more than "a couple" - I was just using an expression - but not substantially more. I'd say Serena, Brenda Schultz-McCarthy, Davenport, Lisicki qualify, the others you listed don't convince me as much.
 

beernutz

Hall of Fame
I saw a tweet on ESPN which reported that Serena hit the fastest woman's serve of the tournament, 126 mph, in her match with Errani. Conversely, it also reported that the slowest serve of the tournament, 87 mph, was hit by Errani against Williams.
 

DMP

Professional
Two comments...

1) For those of a certain age there is only one reply to the OP question - Francoise Durr.

2) Wondering how a female player can have such a poor serve completely misses the point. The fact that many women over the years have had very weak serves, yet got to finals, won majors, and achieved high rankings, just shows that in the women's game the returners mostly don't have the power combined with control to crush a weak serve. In the men's game a weak serve can be crushed.

So look at the quality of return in the women's game, not at the serve, to see the real differences with the men.
 

tennisdad65

Hall of Fame
She has the height and weight of a 12-13 year old boy. Did you serve as well as her when you were that age, height, weight?

On the flip side, Justine Henin was only an inch taller and had a far superior serve than Sara.
 

struggle

Legend
NO one will ever be crushing it with that "simple service" motion delivery. She has gotten alot out her game, no doubt. Set for life.
 

chrischris

Hall of Fame
She is up there with the worst.

Kournikova landed a string of double faults from time to time as did the afore mentioned Dementieva... Coria late in his career serve them up too.
 
J

JRAJ1988

Guest
Volandri has the worst serve.

To the above, man Errani's grunts...ahhhhhhEHHHHH.
 

Elektra

Professional
Perhaps women's bodies aren't well suited for that particular element of the game. I mean, it's weird that in the whole history of the game only a couple of women have had what one could call a "great serve". It can't just be incompetence or bad coaching.
Not true, it is all about technique and some tennis academies have taught women to not put much emphasis on their serve but on their return game.
 

HRB

Hall of Fame
The worst I've seen before Errani were Emilie Loit, Aniko Kapros and Dementieva.

Sad thing about Dementieva is that she actually HAD a serve in the early 2000's and it was actually rather decent, but a shoulder injury soon changed that for the way worse.
Damn I miss Demented! Great Bod, Great fighter, terrible serve..,you left us to soon Lena-D!
 

iri10

Rookie
Sara's serve was never great. Supposedly it used to be better, though. I've heard that there's some chronic or lingering injury which has forced her to nerf her serve even more than it used to be.

There are some other tiny women who have had much better serves. Someone mentioned Justine Henin. In more recent times, Aleksandra Krunic is at most an inch taller, but usually has a much faster serve. At the 2014 US Open, her fastest serve was 117mph. Errani would struggle to do that with a hurricane at her back.
 
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britam25

Hall of Fame
The worst I've seen before Errani were Emilie Loit, Aniko Kapros and Dementieva.

Sad thing about Dementieva is that she actually HAD a serve in the early 2000's and it was actually rather decent, but a shoulder injury soon changed that for the way worse.
Dunno which was worse, Big Mouth Demented's slice from the deuce court that you could see coming yesterday, or Errani's "hacker in the park, I'm too uncoordinated to synch the motions together." Her whole game is an affront to me, almost the first time I heard of her was at Wimbledon, when she beat Radwanska-another winner-who was top 5 at the time, and they said that made Errani's record against Top 5 one and twenty-nine. To paraphrase the line from "Bull Durham," "One...and twenty-nine. How'd she get the one?" Then they mentioned that one of her 2nd serves was timed at 49 mph. A professional tennis player...hitting a serve considerably slower than I drive on a Sunday afternoon. Then, seeing how much her career earnings were(admittedly, much of it from doubles) was the final straw. It's an indictment, of sorts, on the WTA, and, like I said, an affront.
 

britam25

Hall of Fame
Two comments...

1) For those of a certain age there is only one reply to the OP question - Francoise Durr.

2) Wondering how a female player can have such a poor serve completely misses the point. The fact that many women over the years have had very weak serves, yet got to finals, won majors, and achieved high rankings, just shows that in the women's game the returners mostly don't have the power combined with control to crush a weak serve. In the men's game a weak serve can be crushed.

So look at the quality of return in the women's game, not at the serve, to see the real differences with the men.
Hmmm, a blast from the past. Yeah, hers was pretty bad, too, and she had some kinda weird backhand, looked like a snooty party host flicking a bug of the lemonade pitcher(see the following at around 1 minute in), and lol for sure at that serve(about 2 minutes in, and Chrissie's serve looks like it couldn't blacken my eye from 20 feet, either):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E1UmY-MJV4
 

Serve&Bash

Semi-Pro
Seriously dude? Did you took tennis today?
Errani is listed as 1.64m on WTA (that's inflated of course). What are you expecting from her? 180km/h flat serves? C'mon!

If anything, we should praise her for managing to be so competitive despite her height.
Why should we praise her? Nobody expects her to serve like Raonic and we know she is a fine player, you can't blame 5 ft 5 for a 77 mph average on 1st serves. Its clearly a poor shot. There are smaller women that could serve better than her.

Also, 180 kph serves by a woman that height isn't impossible anymore. Giorgi and Krunic are like 5 ft 6 and I have seen both hit up to 190 kph.
 
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DMP

Professional
Hmmm, a blast from the past.
If you want a real blast from the past try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwHoFrBw5AA

Wonderful on so many levels. The experiments with colour. The styles. The hair!! World Team Tennis. The comments below the video. And above all the mighty serve of Francoise Durr ( see 4.25, and especially the second serve. Her right leg!).

Happy days :)

PS Durr was a classic example of someone who had a really weak serve, a highly unorthodox backhand, no obvious power anywhere in her game, yet was extremely difficult to beat.
 

britam25

Hall of Fame
If you want a real blast from the past try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwHoFrBw5AA

Wonderful on so many levels. The experiments with colour. The styles. The hair!! World Team Tennis. The comments below the video. And above all the mighty serve of Francoise Durr ( see 4.25, and especially the second serve. Her right leg!).

Happy days :)

PS Durr was a classic example of someone who had a really weak serve, a highly unorthodox backhand, no obvious power anywhere in her game, yet was extremely difficult to beat.
Yeah, it's hilarious, if she were a quicker player, it almost looks like she could beat her serve to the net, it's like a frisbee sailing in. Thanks for the post.
 

Boom-Boom

Hall of Fame
She's just a rubbish player all around. How she maintains such a high ranking, God knows.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/court-report-errani-realises-the-error-of-her-ways-in-using-armstrongs-dodgy-doctor-8120175.html

probably with a little help from her friends...like another dodgy Spanish doctor who was also a doctor in Lance Armstrong US Postal team :shock:


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/court-report-errani-realises-the-error-of-her-ways-in-using-armstrongs-dodgy-doctor-8120175.html

David Ferrer has also been "training" in Valencia with the same doctor...
 
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Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Errani has without a doubt the worst serve Ive seen from a professional. No power or placement. Just a kick into the middle of the box on both first and second serves. Serena was hitting winners at will off her first serve.

Those saying that her serve is bad because she is short are pretty clueless. There are many players her size with a better serve.
 
C

Cenarius

Guest
Speaking of little girls.Nuria Llagostera Vives was only 5ft 1in(155cm).Do you know some female player nowdays this short?
 

robertk29

Rookie
Mousy, irritating, unable to watch. wasn't she on the Ed Sullivan show in the 60's?? Oh wait a min, that was Topo Gigio
 

Rjtennis

Hall of Fame
She's just a rubbish player all around. How she maintains such a high ranking, God knows.
It pretty amazing how many matches she wins given her skill set. To offset those physical deficiencies she has to be one of the grittiest players on tour and her shot selection/match management is excellent.

I think she could get more out of her serve though. Her motion is something that you would teach to beginners.
 

La Grande

G.O.A.T.
The girl has got GRIT.

I've said this once and I'll say it again.. shes a magician. I still don't understand how she is so highly ranked with that serve.. but props to her.
 

President

Legend
The girl has got GRIT.

I've said this once and I'll say it again.. shes a magician. I still don't understand how she is so highly ranked with that serve.. but props to her.
Errani is very athletic and has very consistent strokes. Most of the women's tour is not and does not. That is the explanation.
 
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