Satisfied With USTA? Poll

Are You Satisfied With The USTA?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 26.1%
  • No

    Votes: 21 30.4%
  • Somewhat Satisfied

    Votes: 24 34.8%
  • Somewhat Dissatisfied

    Votes: 6 8.7%

  • Total voters
    69
  • Poll closed .

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
You know, for all the crap people talk about NTRP, the program is still great. They do a lot of things for the community and help advance tennis in children and adults.

Membership price and league fees are pretty negligible. I just wish I bought the lifetime when it was $250. I wonder what it is now? Like $1,000? haha

Like anything there are people who game the system and people who are adept at politics.

Those are just necessary evils.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Like anything there are people who game the system and people who are adept at politics.
True. But does the USTA do enough to limit it? Sticking one's head in the sand and saying 'they're are bad people' is pretty weak. So I'd say no. One example: they allow ex-pros (who've had millions of dollars in instruction) play in events. They also allow people to claim medical reasons for self-rating low. Why don't those people just rehab and come back when they're ready? The greed of the USTA - Arlen Kantarian - $9 million...
 
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NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
True. But does the ATP do enough to limit it? Sticking one's head in the sand and saying 'they're are bad people' is pretty weak. So I'd say no. One example: they allow ex-pros (who've had millions of dollars in instruction) play in events. They also allow people to claim medical reasons for self-rating low. Why don't those people just rehab and come back when they're ready? The greed of the USTA - Arlen Kantarian - $9 million...
Well, TBH, I just like to play. I accept everyone at their "level". I dont complain when I see someone better than me, because often, im seeing people way worse. I've seen some 4.0s that were like "wow. srs. would struggle at 3.0". And ive seen people who are obviously "managing" and people who are "lifers" at ultra low levels.

Id rather have a large variety of teams in a flight vs. the same 2-3 teams every time like in 6.0.

On the bright side... i've only seen 40+ yeah old people claiming "medical appeals" which seems pretty legit given the age. I'm waiting to see some kid, like 20, medical appeal a 4.0, or 4.5 rating.
 

badkitty

Rookie
Overall I'm pretty satisfied with USTA but am considering playing Ultimate Tennis instead for summer and/or fall.

I'm satisfied with the yearly membership dues and league rates, but think that NTRP tournaments are a bit too expensive being about $45 for singles. My biggest gripe is that I'd like to see either a longer 18+ season or two 18+ seasons (one in the spring and another in the fall). I'm not too interested in nationals, mixed, or combo leagues, just more matches at my NTRP level.
 

jonnyjack

Semi-Pro
My biggest gripe is that I'd like to see either a longer 18+ season or two 18+ seasons (one in the spring and another in the fall). I'm not too interested in nationals, mixed, or combo leagues, just more matches at my NTRP level.
Agreed. Here in Norcal, the 18+ seasons were shortened. In the past, we normally had 13-14 match seasons. This current season, the season is only about 9-10 matches.

They are trying to fit in too many different leagues which is only catering to the older folks. If that's where they are seeing the majority of their money then fine. I'm not planning to renew my membership in August for mixed or combo.

If I get bumped back down to 4.0 for next year, I may consider renewing depending on how long the next 18+ season is. If it's too short or I stay 4.5 then good bye USTA.
 

NTRPolice

Hall of Fame
Agreed. Here in Norcal, the 18+ seasons were shortened. In the past, we normally had 13-14 match seasons. This current season, the season is only about 9-10 matches.

They are trying to fit in too many different leagues which is only catering to the older folks. If that's where they are seeing the majority of their money then fine. I'm not planning to renew my membership in August for mixed or combo.

If I get bumped back down to 4.0 for next year, I may consider renewing depending on how long the next 18+ season is. If it's too short or I stay 4.5 then good bye USTA.
Actually, by having more age brackets, it's helping NTRP be a little more meaningful. I dont know about where you live, but im in the under 40 crowd. I can still play almost year round even with the new age brackets.
 

OrangePower

Legend
Agreed. Here in Norcal, the 18+ seasons were shortened. In the past, we normally had 13-14 match seasons. This current season, the season is only about 9-10 matches.

They are trying to fit in too many different leagues which is only catering to the older folks. If that's where they are seeing the majority of their money then fine. I'm not planning to renew my membership in August for mixed or combo.

If I get bumped back down to 4.0 for next year, I may consider renewing depending on how long the next 18+ season is. If it's too short or I stay 4.5 then good bye USTA.
A fellow Norcal player here, and I agree with your comment 100%.

For me, 18+ league is the primary reason to play USTA. But now it's been made shorter so as to better accommodate all the new leagues that have been added to the calendar. Yes I can now play 40+ league, but I'd much rather have a quality 18+ season than a diminished 18+ season and then a bunch of 2nd rate leagues. I mean, do we really need three Mixed leagues (18+, 40+, 55+)?

All these additional league do as far as I'm concerned is take court availability away from real tennis :)
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Well, TBH, I just like to play.
That's acceptable. Not sure where you live; maybe the USTA is the only viable route. In SoCal, between the people I've met and the huge tennis population in my immediate community with well run ladders and plenty of courts, I'm never far away from a match or a hit.
 

tennisnj

Professional
Not worth the membership I pay in North Jersey. The best fielded tournaments aren't usually USTA sponsored & more often than not the local parks & especially high school courts can provide just as good a match as a USTA tournament. Not to mention too many are located 40+ miles away in New York State & it's just not worth the drive to play 2 matches to win (sometimes, not always) a $5 trophy. Leagues around here are few & far between & more often than not, they're associated with indoor clubs rather than public parks.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
The greed of the USTA - Arlen Kantarian - $9 million...
It is ridiculous for the USTA to be paying a CEO that much.

I would rather see a separate organization whose sole mission is to promote league play among recreational players.

That's it. Not to develop champions or sponsor pro players or pro tournaments. Just promote the league and tournament play of the millions of 2.5 - 4.5 recreational players that play for fun and exercise.

Anything would be an improvement over the current bloated, overpaid bureaucracy that is the U$TA.
 

chatt_town

Hall of Fame
I mainly have a problem with the greed. There is always going to be gaming in the system. I've played guys that were clearly a level or two better but hey...it is what it is. My main problem with them is some of their logic of making you play other spring leagues to keep your state births that you've won in the fall. That is pure greed to me. My other problem with them is they clearly aren't doing enough to push tennis in the inner city and I'm sure they have their "political" reasons for that but now that we've seen the big 4, American tennis is going to suffer for a long time until usta incorporates other people other than the affluent who can afford to pay 100's of thousands. Other than that...it's like many other leagues. I've met some a few aholes and quite a few nice people. So it's not all bad.
 

jservoss

Rookie
I think having the USTA leagues is one of the best things I have been involved in as an adult. It has been an amazing social outlet for me and has been a great way to stay fit and keep me striving to improve. I couldn't imagine my life without it.

I feel like because the USTA has a monopoly on tennis in most areas of the US they tend to coast and so progress in a lot of areas are slow. There is still a ton of room for improvement for the USTA, but nothing pushing them to make it happen.
 

cknobman

Legend
USTA does an adequate job, no system will ever be perfect.

People just need to play and be happy. I have played some of the other leagues and every single one of them has its own issues.

My current biggest single issue with the USTA are its fees getting out of hand.
 

anubis

Hall of Fame
I'm happy with USTA. I've been playing since 2012 and I've made a lot of friends playing in USTA leagues and tournaments.

Tennis is a dying sport with very little interest and support -- it needs all the help it can get. I, for one, am grateful for the opportunity to play competitive tennis in a semi-organized manner with some semblance of authority, regulation and organization.

If all I cared about was to meet my friends on Sunday morning to play friendly doubles, then I probably wouldn't be happy with USTA -- but then again, it wouldn't make any sense for me to play it anyway.

USTA is for competitive tennis. I'm sure a lot of people that complain probably aren't really cut out for competitive tennis.
 

OrangePower

Legend
USTA is for competitive tennis. I'm sure a lot of people that complain probably aren't really cut out for competitive tennis.
Na, my complaints are usually the exact opposite - not *enough* competitive tennis!

For me, competitive means playing against people of similar skill. And that pretty much means the 18+ Adult Men's season. But unfortunately, at least in my area, that season has gotten shortened in order to accommodate more leagues that in my opinion are just not as competitive (Mixed, Combo, etc).
 
their 'tennis tuesday' is ABSOLUTE rubbish! i mean just complete garbage... john evert instruction is an absolute joke...im paying money for this?
 

chatt_town

Hall of Fame
Well...you did say you've been playing since like 2012. Just keep playing and see if you feel the same way in 3 or 4 more years.


I'm happy with USTA. I've been playing since 2012 and I've made a lot of friends playing in USTA leagues and tournaments.

Tennis is a dying sport with very little interest and support -- it needs all the help it can get. I, for one, am grateful for the opportunity to play competitive tennis in a semi-organized manner with some semblance of authority, regulation and organization.

If all I cared about was to meet my friends on Sunday morning to play friendly doubles, then I probably wouldn't be happy with USTA -- but then again, it wouldn't make any sense for me to play it anyway.

USTA is for competitive tennis. I'm sure a lot of people that complain probably aren't really cut out for competitive tennis.
 

anubis

Hall of Fame
Well...you did say you've been playing since like 2012. Just keep playing and see if you feel the same way in 3 or 4 more years.
Right, but since 2012 I've played more USTA tennis than most have in five years. I average 80+ USTA matches per year. This year alone I've played on 4 leagues already and the year is just getting started. I've also captained three teams, made it to sectionals and districts three times and played over a dozen USTA sanctioned tournaments.
 

Bdarb

Hall of Fame
I think USTA is doing ok. without it, a lot of us will be playing the same people over and over. and that's booooooring.
I find this is my biggest problem when I DO play USTA. So many people are fed up with it around here they just set up their own stuff. I kind of agree, I don't feel the need to pay the USTA every time I want to play a tennis match.
 

chatt_town

Hall of Fame
and more and more people here are doing the same. Hell...I have a rotation of like 5 guys I can play here and I only have 5 because I can't fit the other 8 or 9 in. So it's not like there aren't tennis players around. People are just fed up with the way they are doing things.


I find this is my biggest problem when I DO play USTA. So many people are fed up with it around here they just set up their own stuff. I kind of agree, I don't feel the need to pay the USTA every time I want to play a tennis match.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
It's a great deal for the player if you get on a team that needs you.

I wish they would do a little more for captains...you don't even get a free hat for your troubles but it's an interesting experience and learned a lot.

They made rating changes a few years ago that I thought were excellent.

So I was mostly satisfied.
 

Bdarb

Hall of Fame
and more and more people here are doing the same. Hell...I have a rotation of like 5 guys I can play here and I only have 5 because I can't fit the other 8 or 9 in. So it's not like there aren't tennis players around. People are just fed up with the way they are doing things.
The way we (at least I) look at it around here, is there is just no need to add beauricratic headaches to a beautifully simple thing like tennis. So many nice people are complete D**** when the line up card comes out.. not worth it.
 

JRstriker12

Hall of Fame
When I had time to play USTA is was fun and I enjoyed it for the most part. The competition was a big motivator in improving my game.

However USTA wasn't the only tennis I played, I also practiced and played other leagues and events for fun.
 

goober

Legend
If the local city league had men's doubles instead of just mixed and singles I probably would not play usta. I seem to like the traveling to matches less and less as I get older. If the fees keep going up, it will get to a point where I may just join a local private club and play in their leagues and inter club matches.
 
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