Searching for Serves, Calling the Bots.

Rovesciarete · Nov 7, 2024

Headtip to the other thread, by @nolefam_2024.

Updated weekly(ish). Last update: 2024-11-04

Player	RallyLen	RLen-Serve	RLen-Return	1-3 W%	4-6 W%	7-9 W%	FH/GS	BH Slice%	FHP/Match	BHP/Match
Maxime Cressy	2.6	2.1	3.2	50.5%	50.3%	31.4%	45.5%	38.9%	-2.1	-1.4
Ivo Karlovic	2.4	2.1	2.8	49.5%	46.9%	34.4%	46.0%	91.2%	-1.0	-1.0
John Isner	2.9	2.5	3.3	52.2%	42.9%	35.9%	55.8%	19.9%	0.5	-3.9
Viktor Troicki	4.0	4.1	4.0	50.0%	45.2%	38.4%	47.5%	8.8%	-4.4	-2.1
Richard Krajicek	2.7	2.3	3.1	50.0%	50.2%	39.7%	41.9%	64.4%	4.3	0.1
Pierre Hugues Herbert	3.3	3.1	3.5	47.7%	49.6%	40.0%	51.4%	29.2%	2.5	-1.3
Reilly Opelka	2.9	2.7	3.1	51.5%	46.2%	40.9%	54.7%	15.3%	0.2	-3.5
Milos Raonic	3.2	2.8	3.5	51.8%	49.1%	41.0%	57.5%	32.0%	5.8	-2.7
Stefan Edberg	3.1	2.7	3.5	50.6%	54.0%	42.1%	41.2%	48.9%	1.6	1.4
Ben Shelton	3.6	3.4	3.8	51.5%	46.5%	42.3%	52.8%	25.5%	6.5	-2.0
Gilles Muller	3.2	2.9	3.6	50.1%	45.1%	42.3%	52.8%	41.7%	0.4	-2.3
John McEnroe	3.1	2.7	3.6	50.7%	50.8%	42.6%	42.9%	35.4%	2.5	0.2
Michael Stich	3.0	2.5	3.5	51.0%	48.2%	43.0%	40.6%	38.2%	2.0	2.2
Kevin Anderson	3.5	3.4	3.5	51.4%	48.0%	43.3%	53.1%	16.5%	5.4	-0.9
Pete Sampras	3.0	2.6	3.4	52.3%	54.0%	43.6%	39.3%	33.7%	5.7	0.3
Feliciano Lopez	3.6	3.2	3.9	49.4%	45.0%	43.6%	52.5%	72.0%	-3.4	-1.9
Tim Henman	3.2	3.1	3.3	49.0%	48.9%	44.0%	48.4%	62.5%	3.7	0.6
Goran Ivanisevic	2.8	2.6	3.0	50.9%	45.5%	44.1%	48.2%	28.7%	4.5	-0.6
Nick Kyrgios	3.4	3.2	3.6	52.4%	48.2%	44.3%	51.5%	12.8%	5.3	-0.3
Andy Roddick	3.9	3.6	4.1	52.5%	46.6%	44.9%	50.8%	22.1%	5.3	-1.3
Hubert Hurkacz	3.9	3.5	4.2	53.7%	48.6%	44.9%	52.7%	16.6%	2.3	-1.8

Rovesciarete · Nov 7, 2024

First serve impact looks pretty good and shows lots of big boys but also who does also fairly well in the rallies. Karlo, Opelka, Cressy, Isner stand really out in the combined serve impact, which shows pretty well who little rallies contribute to their points.

Updated weekly(ish). Last update: 2024-11-04 Eliminated guys with fewer than 35 matches.

Player	Matches	SvImpact	1st: Unret%	<=3 W%	RiP W%	SvImpact
Ivo Karlovic	43	54.8%	58.7%	74.0%	55.6%	69.3%
Goran Ivanisevic	47	47.0%	58.9%	71.9%	55.4%	68.4%
Pete Sampras	187	45.4%	53.2%	69.5%	57.3%	65.5%
Reilly Opelka	58	51.0%	56.9%	68.6%	49.9%	65.1%
Maxime Cressy	37	51.0%	50.9%	68.9%	58.3%	64.4%
Milos Raonic	98	48.0%	52.6%	68.9%	58.2%	64.4%
John Isner	101	51.9%	54.0%	67.5%	51.5%	63.6%
Feliciano Lopez	65	42.8%	50.2%	65.8%	53.8%	61.4%
Boris Becker	133	41.2%	48.3%	63.5%	55.8%	60.3%
Nick Kyrgios	128	46.7%	50.8%	63.2%	54.6%	59.8%
Alexander Bublik	75	42.4%	49.4%	61.8%	53.1%	58.9%
Andy Roddick	112	42.5%	49.2%	60.2%	53.7%	57.9%
Benoit Paire	48	37.1%	44.9%	63.8%	57.1%	57.9%
Jan Lennard Struff	58	41.0%	46.5%	61.9%	56.1%	57.8%
Hubert Hurkacz	291	42.6%	47.0%	60.7%	56.3%	57.3%
John McEnroe	51	40.0%	43.5%	61.1%	51.6%	56.8%
Matteo Berrettini	98	41.9%	44.7%	60.6%	58.0%	56.6%
Marin Cilic	99	38.4%	44.6%	59.3%	56.2%	55.3%
Marat Safin	44	35.8%	46.3%	57.3%	55.4%	55.2%
Taylor Fritz	116	38.4%	44.9%	58.6%	58.2%	54.8%
Ben Shelton	35	42.4%	43.8%	58.4%	55.4%	54.6%
Felix Auger Aliassime	116	40.6%	44.2%	57.4%	55.2%	54.5%
Roger Federer	650	40.2%	41.4%	58.2%	60.2%	54.1%

Rovesciarete · Nov 7, 2024

The top 20 sorted due to serve impact over their career. Cressy, Kyrgios, Roanic, Opelka, Hurkacz, Shelton and Bublik are all present, which is a fairly high number.

Updated weekly(ish). Last update: 2024-11-04

Player	Matches	Unret%	<=3 W%	RiP W%	SvImpact	1st: Unret%	<=3 W%	RiP W%	SvImpact
Ivo Karlovic	43	47.8%	62.7%	50.1%	54.8%	58.7%	74.0%	55.6%	69.3%
John Isner	101	45.1%	59.0%	48.9%	51.9%	54.0%	67.5%	51.5%	63.6%
Maxime Cressy	37	42.8%	58.7%	56.5%	51.0%	50.9%	68.9%	58.3%	64.4%
Reilly Opelka	58	45.7%	58.3%	48.0%	51.0%	56.9%	68.6%	49.9%	65.1%
Milos Raonic	98	40.6%	55.0%	52.0%	48.0%	52.6%	68.9%	58.2%	64.4%
Goran Ivanisevic	47	41.8%	53.5%	50.0%	47.0%	58.9%	71.9%	55.4%	68.4%
Nick Kyrgios	128	40.7%	52.1%	51.5%	46.7%	50.8%	63.2%	54.6%	59.8%
Pete Sampras	187	38.4%	52.8%	52.5%	45.4%	53.2%	69.5%	57.3%	65.5%
Richard Krajicek	25	38.5%	52.6%	47.0%	44.9%	54.2%	69.3%	55.3%	65.9%
Sam Querrey	36	39.1%	50.5%	48.4%	44.9%	53.9%	67.4%	53.2%	63.7%
Kevin Anderson	48	38.2%	50.5%	50.6%	44.7%	48.8%	62.0%	55.5%	58.7%
Gilles Muller	22	35.8%	53.0%	53.3%	44.4%	48.1%	68.1%	60.4%	61.9%
Feliciano Lopez	65	36.4%	48.7%	49.3%	42.8%	50.2%	65.8%	53.8%	61.4%
Hubert Hurkacz	291	36.1%	48.2%	51.9%	42.6%	47.0%	60.7%	56.3%	57.3%
Dustin Brown	21	33.3%	49.3%	52.3%	42.5%	40.1%	57.7%	54.7%	54.4%
Andy Roddick	112	36.9%	47.3%	50.9%	42.5%	49.2%	60.2%	53.7%	57.9%
Ben Shelton	35	35.3%	48.3%	51.6%	42.4%	43.8%	58.4%	55.4%	54.6%
Alexander Bublik	75	36.8%	47.5%	49.4%	42.4%	49.4%	61.8%	53.1%	58.9%
Michael Stich	32	35.0%	50.6%	49.9%	42.1%	47.4%	64.8%	54.9%	60.2%
Patrick Rafter	37	34.1%	49.9%	48.2%	42.0%	43.7%	63.1%	53.2%	57.2%

Aabye5 · Nov 7, 2024

Rovesciarete said:
The top 20 sorted due to serve impact over their career. Cressy, Kyrgios, Roanic, Opelka, Hurkacz, Shelton and Bublik are all present, which is a fairly high number.

Updated weekly(ish). Last update: 2024-11-04

Player
Matches
Unret%
<=3 W%
RiP W%
SvImpact
1st: Unret%
<=3 W%
RiP W%
SvImpact
Ivo Karlovic
43
47.8%
62.7%
50.1%
54.8%
58.7%
74.0%
55.6%
69.3%
John Isner
101
45.1%
59.0%
48.9%
51.9%
54.0%
67.5%
51.5%
63.6%
Maxime Cressy
37
42.8%
58.7%
56.5%
51.0%
50.9%
68.9%
58.3%
64.4%
Reilly Opelka
58
45.7%
58.3%
48.0%
51.0%
56.9%
68.6%
49.9%
65.1%
Milos Raonic
98
40.6%
55.0%
52.0%
48.0%
52.6%
68.9%
58.2%
64.4%
Goran Ivanisevic
47
41.8%
53.5%
50.0%
47.0%
58.9%
71.9%
55.4%
68.4%
Nick Kyrgios
128
40.7%
52.1%
51.5%
46.7%
50.8%
63.2%
54.6%
59.8%
Pete Sampras
187
38.4%
52.8%
52.5%
45.4%
53.2%
69.5%
57.3%
65.5%
Richard Krajicek
25
38.5%
52.6%
47.0%
44.9%
54.2%
69.3%
55.3%
65.9%
Sam Querrey
36
39.1%
50.5%
48.4%
44.9%
53.9%
67.4%
53.2%
63.7%
Kevin Anderson
48
38.2%
50.5%
50.6%
44.7%
48.8%
62.0%
55.5%
58.7%
Gilles Muller
22
35.8%
53.0%
53.3%
44.4%
48.1%
68.1%
60.4%
61.9%
Feliciano Lopez
65
36.4%
48.7%
49.3%
42.8%
50.2%
65.8%
53.8%
61.4%
Hubert Hurkacz
291
36.1%
48.2%
51.9%
42.6%
47.0%
60.7%
56.3%
57.3%
Dustin Brown
21
33.3%
49.3%
52.3%
42.5%
40.1%
57.7%
54.7%
54.4%
Andy Roddick
112
36.9%
47.3%
50.9%
42.5%
49.2%
60.2%
53.7%
57.9%
Ben Shelton
35
35.3%
48.3%
51.6%
42.4%
43.8%
58.4%
55.4%
54.6%
Alexander Bublik
75
36.8%
47.5%
49.4%
42.4%
49.4%
61.8%
53.1%
58.9%
Michael Stich
32
35.0%
50.6%
49.9%
42.1%
47.4%
64.8%
54.9%
60.2%
Patrick Rafter
37
34.1%
49.9%
48.2%
42.0%
43.7%
63.1%
53.2%
57.2%

Hubie's serve is definitely underrated

Rovesciarete · Nov 7, 2024

Aabye5 said:
Hubie's serve is definitely underrated

Which is one of his greatest strengths but also explains most of his struggles to win a the very top. His return and baseline game is fairly weak for a top15 player.

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