SEC Tennis

SavvyStringer

Professional
Nuno Borges is too good for college tennis. I greatly appreciate and respect his decision to graduate from Mississippi State and then turn pro. He was also named the SEC Scholar-Athlete for the second year in a row. What a great athlete and role model for future generations.
His biggest attribute is his serve. It will help him out early on as a pro. I watched him play my guy Jubb twice this year. Jubb is superior off the ground but Nuno gets two free points per service game with either aces or just big unreturnable serves. He also plays well under pressure. In their first match up Jubb had him down 5-4 30-0 in the third if I remember correctly and he hit an ace and another that was basically an ace then went on to win the game and the match. He's good but I wouldn't say too good for college. We'll have to see how the individual tournament goes. He's certainly earned his top 5 spot.
 

xbr

Rookie
His biggest attribute is his serve. It will help him out early on as a pro. I watched him play my guy Jubb twice this year. Jubb is superior off the ground but Nuno gets two free points per service game with either aces or just big unreturnable serves. He also plays well under pressure. In their first match up Jubb had him down 5-4 30-0 in the third if I remember correctly and he hit an ace and another that was basically an ace then went on to win the game and the match. He's good but I wouldn't say too good for college. We'll have to see how the individual tournament goes. He's certainly earned his top 5 spot.
I agree with you. But, who cares how the individual tournament will go. I would not even be surprised if he doesn’t play it and goes on to play pro immediately. After all, in the last year, out of 8 futures that he played, he won 2, played finals of 3 more and in other he made at least quarters. This guy is legit and his mental strength can take him far.
 
This guy is legit and his mental strength can take him far.
I agree with both you and Savvy. I watched his match with Jubb in the regular season. His serve is super tough and he really brought it when needed. He also had the fight that was required, and it looked like he left it all out there that day. When I was watching and actively rooting for his opponent, it was still impossible not to like Nuno. That's saying something when it comes to tennis. I think both guys enjoyed the battle and to some extent (physically) were relieved when it was over (3rd set TB that day, with at least 1 match point for each guy). What I noticed off the ground, was that Nuno got really good depth that particular day. Not only were his shots driving through the court, they bounced within a few feet of the baseline most of the day. It is really really hard to attack that.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
Not SEC Men, but was surprised to see Auburn Women's Coach resigned, so that is a rather big opening on the Women's Side with a young team.
 

SECFAN

Rookie
Not SEC Men, but was surprised to see Auburn Women's Coach resigned, so that is a rather big opening on the Women's Side with a young team.
I am surprised too. Wonder if it was her choice. If not, then how can they keep Bobby Reynolds, because he hasn't done anything. She at least had a winning record and NCAA appearances up until this year I believe.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
I am surprised too. Wonder if it was her choice. If not, then how can they keep Bobby Reynolds, because he hasn't done anything. She at least had a winning record and NCAA appearances up until this year I believe.
team was hurt this year after losing #2 player early in the season, so they struggled for the first time under her leadership.
 

andfor

Legend
Nuno Borges is too good for college tennis. I greatly appreciate and respect his decision to graduate from Mississippi State and then turn pro. He was also named the SEC Scholar-Athlete for the second year in a row. What a great athlete and role model for future generations.
Have to add and you'll be pleased to know that Watson (UofMemphis) beat Borges last fall in a Futures event.
 

andfor

Legend
One of the best for sure. Glennon, Peniston and Salisbury are in the same conversation. Salisbury is currently #20 ATP doubles.. One year players Mel Purcell and Chip Hooper also played at Memphis in the 70’s.


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xbr

Rookie
One of the best for sure. Glennon, Peniston and Salisbury are in the same conversation. Salisbury is currently #20 ATP doubles.. One year players Mel Purcell and Chip Hooper also played at Memphis in the 70’s.


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What’s up with the Brits and Memphis tennis?
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
Got a strong pipeline from past co-head coach Finnegan, successfully maintained and grown by Doerr and Gobel. More coming next year.


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let's hope they have their traveling shoes on, they will definitely be road tested with no planned home matches for 2019-20 currently
 

andfor

Legend
Haven’t seen their schedule. They do have home options.


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xbr

Rookie
NCAA tournament ends with two SEC players in the singles final and one SEC team in the doubles final. 3 different SEC teams represented in the NCAA finals looks very good for the conference. Paul Jubb has a very bright future as well as Nuno Borges. I believe Jubb is a junior. It will be interesting to see whether he comes back to school or turns pro.
 

tennisfan17

Semi-Pro
NCAA tournament ends with two SEC players in the singles final and one SEC team in the doubles final. 3 different SEC teams represented in the NCAA finals looks very good for the conference. Paul Jubb has a very bright future as well as Nuno Borges. I believe Jubb is a junior. It will be interesting to see whether he comes back to school or turns pro.
I hope Jubb returns! I would love more opportunities to see him competing in college matches. Plus the energy he brings to the South Carolina team is a big benefit.
It is wonderful to see so many excellent tennis players in the SEC. The more the better
 

SavvyStringer

Professional
The current plan is for him to play pro in the summer and fall and return for spring season and to finish his degree. He did well last summer and the amateurism rules are slightly different for tennis than other sports so he could make a bit of money and still come back.
 

andfor

Legend
The current plan is for him to play pro in the summer and fall and return for spring season and to finish his degree. He did well last summer and the amateurism rules are slightly different for tennis than other sports so he could make a bit of money and still come back.
He wants to play pro tennis really bad. This plan makes sense as a number of players similar positions entering their senior year have done the same thing. Steve Johnson is the most prolific player to take the fall off, there have been others. Good luck to Jubb.
 

jcgatennismom

Professional
The current plan is for him to play pro in the summer and fall and return for spring season and to finish his degree. He did well last summer and the amateurism rules are slightly different for tennis than other sports so he could make a bit of money and still come back.
Have the rules changed? I thought juniors could earn up to $10k a year but NCAA tennis athletes could only accept money to the extent it just covered their personal tournament expenses. I hope the rules are updated soon as the current rule as stated below would not even allow players to count as an expense the travel of a parent or a coach. What is unclear from the rule below is whether tournament expenses can be aggregated and compared vs an entire summer or fall of tournaments or if a player can only accept prize money that covers current tournament expenses even if the player has uncovered expenses from past tourneys. I dont think current college players can net a profit. I know of players-now graduated- who played prize $ tourneys, didnt report $ and kept it. I think the NCAA has bigger priorities in sports like basketball than hunting down tennis players who keep a couple thousand $ above expenses, but there is always the risk a player could get caught and lose eligibility. Would be better if NCAA would allow college players to keep $10K a year plus expenses. I think international players play club circuit or team at home and earn money over the summer but that has less visibility than Futures or US prize $ as amount earned by whom are posted on Internet. Several of the top college players from 19/20 have career earnings of $30K-$50k per ATP site-maybe players did not accept all winnings, were able to come up with expenses to charge against earnings, or earned the $ as juniors. Probably the below rule is not being enforced so wish NCAA would get rid of it. My son won a $500 at a local tourney as a junior but didnt bother to play in later years as a collegian because per the below rules, he would only be able to keep his expenses which were just entry fee and gas. Considering many college tennis players give up $ earned teaching at summer camps or academies to play tourneys, they should be able to keep tourney earnings.

12.1.2.4.2.2 After Initial Full-Time Collegiate Enrollment. In tennis, after initial full-time collegiate enrollment, an individual may accept prize money based on his or her place finish or performance in an athletics event. Such prize money may not exceed actual and necessary expenses and may be provided only by the sponsor of the event. The calculation of actual and necessary expenses shall not include the expenses or fees of anyone other than the individual (e.g., coach's fees or expenses, family member's expenses). (Adopted: 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13, Revised: 4/25/18)
 

SavvyStringer

Professional
Have the rules changed? I thought juniors could earn up to $10k a year but NCAA tennis athletes could only accept money to the extent it just covered their personal tournament expenses. I hope the rules are updated soon as the current rule as stated below would not even allow players to count as an expense the travel of a parent or a coach. What is unclear from the rule below is whether tournament expenses can be aggregated and compared vs an entire summer or fall of tournaments or if a player can only accept prize money that covers current tournament expenses even if the player has uncovered expenses from past tourneys. I dont think current college players can net a profit. I know of players-now graduated- who played prize $ tourneys, didnt report $ and kept it. I think the NCAA has bigger priorities in sports like basketball than hunting down tennis players who keep a couple thousand $ above expenses, but there is always the risk a player could get caught and lose eligibility. Would be better if NCAA would allow college players to keep $10K a year plus expenses. I think international players play club circuit or team at home and earn money over the summer but that has less visibility than Futures or US prize $ as amount earned by whom are posted on Internet. Several of the top college players from 19/20 have career earnings of $30K-$50k per ATP site-maybe players did not accept all winnings, were able to come up with expenses to charge against earnings, or earned the $ as juniors. Probably the below rule is not being enforced so wish NCAA would get rid of it. My son won a $500 at a local tourney as a junior but didnt bother to play in later years as a collegian because per the below rules, he would only be able to keep his expenses which were just entry fee and gas. Considering many college tennis players give up $ earned teaching at summer camps or academies to play tourneys, they should be able to keep tourney earnings.

12.1.2.4.2.2 After Initial Full-Time Collegiate Enrollment. In tennis, after initial full-time collegiate enrollment, an individual may accept prize money based on his or her place finish or performance in an athletics event. Such prize money may not exceed actual and necessary expenses and may be provided only by the sponsor of the event. The calculation of actual and necessary expenses shall not include the expenses or fees of anyone other than the individual (e.g., coach's fees or expenses, family member's expenses). (Adopted: 1/19/13 effective 8/1/13, Revised: 4/25/18)
It's just the 10k. Most foreign guys claim expenses and get to keep winnings. Jubb finaled two 15k and won a 15k last summer and kept all prize money and it still wasn't much.
 
I think Jubb will go pro, he has nothing to come back for, not a team that can win it all, and not going to get his degree, and he has a big federation that can back him, if he has any good results this summer he'll go pro
 
BTW, amazingly underachieving year for Miss ST, losing in the round of 16 and then having Borges losing in the finals, very good team that couldn't win when it counted
 
I think Jubb will go pro, he has nothing to come back for, not a team that can win it all, and not going to get his degree, and he has a big federation that can back him, if he has any good results this summer he'll go pro
Not so sure about a lot of that. Jubb is still young and growing physically. Needs time to fill out in a nice stable weight program. He will be able to get his degree next year. He has really taken to Goffi's coaching as well. Just look at his progress from freshman year through now. He had a really successful summer last year playing futures. Now this summer, he'll get to play some challengers as well. He has a young team behind him at SC made up of mostly freshmen this past year, some of whom are very promising players who were largely successful near the top of the lineup last year. They finished the year ranked top 20. If they can enter every match with an almost guaranteed win at 1S and super strong chance at wins at 2S and 3S, that team ranking will improve in his senior year.
 

andfor

Legend
just depends on LTA, if they support him hes gone
My bet is he takes the fall off regardless of what the LTA does for him. Not knowing his personal situation, exact amounts of credit needed to graduate, etc., what he does is anyone's guess. Seems like a good kid, looking forward to following his progress this summer.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
See 2 S.CAR players have transferred and with Jubb unknown, what is happening in Columbia? Obviously tennis has a high transfer rate, but that hurts.
 

andfor

Legend
Jubb pulls off a main draw win in 3 sets in Ilkely. Not the upset I was picking, good win for him against a player ranked #157. Watson and Peniston both lost to top 200 players in close 2 set matches.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
sam riffice continuing to look like he's breaking through to another level in his game recently:
followed the NCAA run and upset of JJ wolf with...
winning the wichita ITF https://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/men's-tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1100044988
then getting to the finals of tulsa ITF (loss to cressy in finals) https://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/men's-tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1100044993

crawford and riffice (in whatever order, or even sharing the #1 spot depending on the match) could be the best 1/2 punch in college tennis next year, the way their games have been trending - add that to the depth that has already been their strength this past year and they might be the team to beat next year
 

xbr

Rookie
Ole Miss Rebels are doing horrendous in Tulsa this year... Tim Sandkaulen remains the only player in the team to bring some positive news to the Rebel fans... another long season on the way...
 

andfor

Legend
Ole Miss Rebels are doing horrendous in Tulsa this year... Tim Sandkaulen remains the only player in the team to bring some positive news to the Rebel fans... another long season on the way...
Yeah, Memphis gave them a beating in dubs.
 

xbr

Rookie
Reality is rough. Like football Memphis has been better than Ole Miss MT for the last 6 years or so.


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I expected you to say something like that so I did some research to bring some facts to the table.
Final Rankings
OleMiss UMem
2019 35 UR
2018 24 25
2017 27 36
2016 27 40
2015 17 45
2014 34 21

NCAA Advancement

2019 R64 N/A
2018 R16 R64
2017 R32 R64
2016 R32 R64
2015 R32 N/A
2014 R32 R32

From these facts, I cannot agree with your statement that the University of Memphis was better than Ole Miss during "the last six years or so". You might want to rethink and reevaluate what you claim. I do still think that Memphis will be better this year. Congrats on the football this year, must be nice to celebrate the win over, historically, more successful Rebels (considering that's Memphis' 2nd win in 15 years and 12th win since 1921). Keep up the positivity, the city of Memphis needs it, reality can be rough.
 

andfor

Legend
I expected you to say something like that so I did some research to bring some facts to the table.
Final Rankings
OleMiss UMem
2019 35 UR
2018 24 25
2017 27 36
2016 27 40
2015 17 45
2014 34 21

NCAA Advancement

2019 R64 N/A
2018 R16 R64
2017 R32 R64
2016 R32 R64
2015 R32 N/A
2014 R32 R32

From these facts, I cannot agree with your statement that the University of Memphis was better than Ole Miss during "the last six years or so". You might want to rethink and reevaluate what you claim. I do still think that Memphis will be better this year. Congrats on the football this year, must be nice to celebrate the win over, historically, more successful Rebels (considering that's Memphis' 2nd win in 15 years and 12th win since 1921). Keep up the positivity, the city of Memphis needs it, reality can be rough.
Post the H2H. You won’t. While history is in your favor the latest is greatest is not. Enjoy your SEC membership benefits that overinflate your ranking, quadruple headers vs JSU and luck of the draw against Stanford. Local rivalry match dodging had served you well.


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xbr

Rookie
Post the H2H. You won’t. While history is in your favor the latest is greatest is not. Enjoy your SEC membership benefits that overinflate your ranking, quadruple headers vs JSU and luck of the draw against Stanford. Local rivalry match dodging had served you well.


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Join the SEC and prove us wrong. Don’t make me pull out Memphis’ record vs SEC teams in the past 6 yrs... too bad Memphis didn’t have luck with the NCAA draw and lost to South Alabama... please... safe yourself
 

andfor

Legend
Join the SEC and prove us wrong. Don’t make me pull out Memphis’ record vs SEC teams in the past 6 yrs... too bad Memphis didn’t have luck with the NCAA draw and lost to South Alabama... please... safe yourself
You have no significant record to stand on other than playing quadruple headers against 0-infinity teams to qualify for the post season.


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xbr

Rookie
You have know significant record to stand on other than playing quadruple headers against 0-infinity teams to qualify for the post season.


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Says the guy who’s team played 4 DH last year. Try to go through the first round of your conference tournament, then you can talk about the SEC.
 

andfor

Legend
Says the guy who’s team played 4 DH last year. Try to go through the first round of your conference tournament, then you can talk about the SEC.
DH vs. QH’s haha. You’re triggered. Graduated 2 all Americans and conference 1st teamer and last schooled you in Oxford. For the 3rd time in a row. Then you ditched the returned home match in Memphis. The last 6 years speaks for itself.


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xbr

Rookie
DH vs. QH’s haha. You’re triggered. Graduated 2 all Americans and conference 1st teamer and last schooled you in Oxford. For the 3rd time in a row. Then you ditched the returned home match in Memphis. The last 6 years speaks for itself.


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Yes... when you can’t pass the first round of the NCAA tournament, that truly speaks for itself.
 

andfor

Legend
Post the last 3 H2H’s. No one cares who got 23rd or whatever you’re blowing yourself up about.


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